Obviously. My point was just like the swimming in Sekiro, I can see how that part of the game was a stepping stone to something they will explore further in ER.
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Elden Ring announced (FromSoftware's largest game to date, Hidetaka Miyazaki x George R.R Martin, PS4/XBO/PC)
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i don´t even know if i want an open world game with their engine on current gen consoles lol
this game will run horrible, thats for sure
this game will run horrible, thats for sure
Exciting news, cant wait for the final translation!
To me the BOTW reference makes a lot of sense and I could see it being directly referenced by miyazaki.
Considering both this and how Omni talked about how he "couldnt wait to see what kind of crazy/fun things people would do with the new systems", it really males me think we'll get some simulation systems similar to those in botw
To me the BOTW reference makes a lot of sense and I could see it being directly referenced by miyazaki.
Considering both this and how Omni talked about how he "couldnt wait to see what kind of crazy/fun things people would do with the new systems", it really males me think we'll get some simulation systems similar to those in botw
will there be MP?
would be cool if the dungeon areas had more traditional Souls invasions etc, but the open areas tried something new..
would be cool if the dungeon areas had more traditional Souls invasions etc, but the open areas tried something new..
Here it is, the English version.
https://nordic.ign.com/bloodborne/2...-evolution-of-dark-souls-says-creator-e3-2019
BotW references were the author's not Miyazaki's words it seems.
https://nordic.ign.com/bloodborne/2...-evolution-of-dark-souls-says-creator-e3-2019
BotW references were the author's not Miyazaki's words it seems.
That's what I want to know if will have coop or not.
Can't understand why they didn't ask that.
The Martin part is interesting, now we know exactly what kind of involvement he had with this project. Sounds really cool.
Reminds me of how Michael Kirkbride chose to focus on the creation story while working on Morrowind, and that ended up being one of the most appealing, if not the most appealing, aspects of the series.
It really seems to play to both their strengths as story tellers. I think this will be a great fit.
It's actually really hard to tell even in the English version but the BotW qoute is from the person who wrote the article rather than Miyazaki.
Nice to see from the interview ''Miyazaki compared the mythology that Martin wrote for Elden Ring to that of the dungeon master's handbook in a tabletop RPG.'' echoing what Omni has said to us.
Great read as usual! I love reading this man talking about his games. <3
That's not very accurate at all. Story usually comes last in their development process, and this interview further reiterates that with Miyazaki saying he didn't want to create a storydriven game, and that was one of the motivations to having Martin working on the mythology instead, so he can keep his style of storytelling that doesn't get in the way of gameplay while still using Martin's writing.
Im a little dissapointed with less of a traditional story and more hidden hidden lore of Dark Souls.
With George they could have created some funny , entertaining cutscenes, instead i won't expect much different than DS, personally i was hopping for a more balanced approach.
Everything else sounds great
With George they could have created some funny , entertaining cutscenes, instead i won't expect much different than DS, personally i was hopping for a more balanced approach.
Everything else sounds great
The novelization thing was what i was reffering to a couple weeks ago that I wasn't sure I could talk about. I understand the concern about revealing the secrets, but as a fan of both From and GRRM It would be nice to have that story in my collection as its own book and I'm sure there are other fans that feel the same way. So here's to hoping it makes it out there in some form.
I wanted a few towns/cities here and there to make the world feel more alive and not the usual apocalyptic kind of scenario we've come to expect from them. It's a shame, but I understand them not wanting to add stuff like this when they're (seemingly) already doing plenty of things that are new to them and, potentially, game-changing.
I just hope the world isn't that fucked up even with the ring broken and the weird skies we saw in the CG trailer. As in, I'd like there to be some functioning kingdoms and the like even if we don't get to see them.
It seems like the trailer was a shortened version of the CG intro, right? I guess that might be the era Martin wrote about.
I wonder how different the game's setting will be (admittedly, we can't really make up much with regards to the environments in the teaser).
I just hope the world isn't that fucked up even with the ring broken and the weird skies we saw in the CG trailer. As in, I'd like there to be some functioning kingdoms and the like even if we don't get to see them.
It seems like the trailer was a shortened version of the CG intro, right? I guess that might be the era Martin wrote about.
I wonder how different the game's setting will be (admittedly, we can't really make up much with regards to the environments in the teaser).
Wait so could you clarify?
The mythology that GRRM wrote was going to be the basis for a new novel of his? Or did he create the mythology with From and afterwards consider making it a novel?
I would eat a book, but i get Miyazaki the plot was done for a game first and support it, actual story would be little compared to the backstory, and books full of backstory don't always make good books
Yeah. Lore is good when it supports an existing narrative. Lore on its own is rarely something worth reading for its own sake. I don't think Martin wrote a whole book and then let Miyazaki build a world out of that, he likely designed the world and came up with certain vignettes and story fragments that could be seeded within said world.
Neither, it's its own thing in collaberation with Fromsoft. What he wrote is essentially a short story, which is used as the basis for the mythology/lore. Im saying I would like said story to be released in some form. But Miyazaki has concerns about releasing it (as stated in the interview) because he's afraid of letting all the world's secrets out in a straightforward manner. Which I understand. But I think it would be cool for fans to own a book or physical version of said story regardless. Given that it was written by GRRM.
"While for Elden Ring we are going back to Western fantasy, the game's themes are very different from our previous works, which means that beauty, justice, and strength will be different once again. That difference has a big impact on our games as a whole."
I wonder what does it mean in terms of the story. Will it be less dark than Souls and Bloodborne?
I wonder what does it mean in terms of the story. Will it be less dark than Souls and Bloodborne?
The tabletop thing in interview as well. Did your post refer to this?
My worry is less about secrets, but it killing some of the lore discussions that are so much fun in From games. Instead of presenting your thoughts and asking what does everyone think, you'll just look up what the Bible says to know it for sure.
Their whole storytelling method suddenly feels pointless if there's a compilation of facts to consult.
I get miyazaki..
one of the main reasons from games are so well regarded is how eveything in their narratives are told through the game itself and not a piece of paper and even more than that it's the mystic about specific details. We will never know the nameless king past name, and all the details of his fall are in obscurity, we never saw what lady maria saw back then when she decided to abandon her rakuyo , most of the things in the from games have to be implied by they gameplay elements and some item descriptions.
That paper could very well give away a lot of what it could make it special like Dark Souls. I suppose those papers are mostly about specific tales of the gods or something higher above the plane of the world of the player since GRRM wrote only the mythos, but even that might give too much away.
what I meant is that From really focuses on telling something on everything they do on gameplay, every little detail in DS, BB and I even think sekiro, contributes to tell something, every item found decribes a little part of this enigmatic world, BotW just.... makes fun gameplay, really really fun gameplay, but they are not trying to tell any narrative when you use a shield for skateboarding. They have different approches.
I think the game will be quite dark like their previous projects, but maybe it will be more hopeful than the whole world-ending theme of despair and hopelessness that Souls had.
Yes I agree, but I think that is also implied by Miyazaki with things being a secret or not being very clear with room for speculation (which is a fun part about their games), until further story/lore is discovered upon finding secrets or progressing through the story.
This makes no sense. From's games are highly gameplay driven with the storytelling never getting in the way of it.
Edit: nevermind, saw your explanation.
This is why I'm so excited for an open world. The way From presents their stories and narrative will make scouring every part of the world worth it. If you're big into the lore you'll have to take your time and explore if you ever want to get the full picture. And I'm down for that.
Not sure I'm looking forward to the performance problems that will come from FromSoft making an open world game. Here's hoping they finally put some effort into fixing their engine. Do they understand how frame pacing works? FromSoft pls, you're so godlike at everything else!
So Martin's involvement is in lore and world building... which From already did masterfully?
I thought having Martín meant a story with character development, twists, etc. Not something From is already great at.
I thought having Martín meant a story with character development, twists, etc. Not something From is already great at.
i am really excited for the exploration in this. Traversing a empty field and finding unexpected stuff, can't wait to see how they do all this.
Yeah, i was hlping for that too :^(
But still, we should wait to see more of the actual game before making any judgments, previous two From games were a bit weak on the lore maybe George will give Ring a good kick
Martin's lore and world-building obliterates anything by FromSoft.
I mean he went out of his way to say they were trying to avoid drawing from existing examples, so maybe this will be something unique and original?
Eh, I was never super impressed by Martin's writing. It's pretty straightforward high fantasy based on the history of the British isles and a "medieval times were gritty and stuff" bent. His world-building didn't seem particularly groundbreaking to me.
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Their lore is okay but nothing on what GRRM does. Layers on layers with books specifically on the lore. That's his strongest element as a writer.
Imo in terms of video games, From is one of the top in terms of lore. It will be interesting to see how Martin's mythos will be carried over, and I do have confidence it will turn out fine seeing how excited Miyazaki is
Oh dear.
I refuse to believe that anyone who has read his books would say this, because it's beyond ridiculous.
I have not, but I'm not sure how it relates to the current conversation I'm having...
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