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PREY, Dishonored, and DEATHLOOP estimated (by me) to be worth a combined $451 million.
No, I will never pass up a good opportunity to make a dumb 0451 joke. Mods will have to ban me if they want me to stop!
To me that just looks like a post by the security lead at Bethesda stating the value based on MS' purchase price? I'd also say that it's likely referring to all Bethesda titles, not just those three series.
I think Timur222 needs to read up on how goodwill arise on the balance sheet of a Company. It is worth exactly that number because MS paid that amount. I.e. it is a circular reference and as long as there has been no new negative information MS does not have to conduct an impairment test to verify that amount through any type of bottom-up analysis.
In financial terms Timur222 is saying the same thing as 'MS paid 7bn USD for Bethesda Zenimax' which we already know.
In financial terms Timur222 is saying the same thing as 'MS paid 7bn USD for Bethesda Zenimax' which we already know.
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The acquisition was a huge steal for MS, that's kind of a fact. How big of a steal is the question.
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Yes - and then you deduct the computers, office furniture, real estate etc from that amount and get to intangible assets, i.e. intellectual property. That is the delta between physical/tangible assets and amount paid. So my point is that Timur222 is basically saying that water is wet.
Its nothing definitive but zenimax did a round of capital raising to the tune of $104 million immediately prior to acquiring id software, so ~$100m is a good bet
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Staff and studios have real expenses and can be replaced, IP cannot. Big IP is worth a ton, everything else is just the stuff around it, the cost of doing business and bringing in the revenue from the big IP.
He's saying that their assets are worth over $7 billion, which we all learned when MS bought them for over $7 billion.
Yeah. They just mention those series as examples. They say "which include," but not just them.
Now imagine the deal of the lifetime Disney got for buying Star Wars at $4 billion or Marvel at $4 billion as well (though I guess Marvel might have been riskier considering the state before the MCU really expanded under them). Both are worth magnitudes more than Bethesda.
This isn't a remotely accurate assessment, outside of the fact that Bethesda was bought for $7.5B and owns those IP.
- This guy is a systems security analyst looking to make his resume seems more impressive. He doesn't have any special insight into what value would/should be placed on those IP.
- A huge part of what MS is buying in the Zenimax acquisition is workforce-in-place, a goodwill-flavored "asset" that describes the value of essentially snapping your fingers and having ten studios with a demonstrated history of producing critically acclaimed / financially successful games up-and-running. The kind of stable of teams that would take Microsoft the better part of half a decade to build otherwise. If MS could have done exactly the same deal, but with the Doom/Fallout/Elder Scrolls IP stripped out at half the price, they'd have done it in an instant.
You guys realize that's a job opening at Bethesda, right? They probably just valued themselves at what MS paid for them. That's it
Doubtful. They'll be hearing from the GAMER'S lawyers any day now.
Even better... they own Obsidian too... get Obsidian to make the next Fallout *Grin* (Yes, I want a New Vegas 2 damnit... or even just a Fallout in the Western US with the better focus on RPG Obsidian gives it and a story revolving around the whole area and the politics of hte people in rather than revolving around your character).
Yeah, no shit, that's what Microsoft paid for them.
Breaking News: A Mars bar is valued at over 59p!
Breaking News: A Mars bar is valued at over 59p!
DOOM Eternal made 450 million dollars in just 9 months.
DOOM Eternal Makes Over $450 Million in Revenue in First 9 Months of Release
Sony paid for the talent, what valuable IP's does Insomniac own? I believe Sony already owns Ratchet and Resistance.
DOOM Eternal Makes Over $450 Million in Revenue in First 9 Months of Release
Sony paid for the talent, what valuable IP's does Insomniac own? I believe Sony already owns Ratchet and Resistance.
Fallout: New Vegas remake with the cut content, new engine and FO4 QOL (sprint, gunplay)
Fallout 5 (New York please)
Fallout: Los Angeles (FNV planed sequel a decade ago)
Fallout 1&2 remakes (or a new entry) built with the Wasteland 3 engine
There is no time to lose.
Despite how "gamers/posters on message boards" feel about those IP's, they're bigger than exclusive IP's.
MS really got a steak of a deal. It's a purchase that only they could make too.
MS really got a steak of a deal. It's a purchase that only they could make too.
Not even remotely surprised. Those franchises are huge, not to mention tacking on things like Wolfenstein and stuff, as well.