You do realize he was posing a hypothetical scenario, right? The dude is the chair of the Human Rights Campaign.
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Elizabeth Warren has absolutely savage response to question at CNN LGBTQ+ Town Hall
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You do realize he was posing a hypothetical scenario, right? The dude is the chair of the Human Rights Campaign.
Yeah I'm realizing that now but the timing was still wonderfully dramatic
This. Good answer and I chuckled, but the title oversold it lol.
I love her response. As a pansexual I'd be more than okay with her as president.
That said... gotta agree, even as a member of the LGBTQ+ community, the thread title kind of oversells it, as do a lot of the responses in the thread. I think if it was presented differently I wouldn't feel this lingering feeling of confusion in the back of my head.
I also beg people who were enthralled by this response to check out her actual plans, which are really good and thought out. My only qualm is that she still refuses to clarify what M4A means to her. Is it single payer? Is it a public option available for anyone? Is it something you default to if you don't have a private plan? What? Everything else though, is solid gold, and I sincerely hope other candidates put out similar plans soon. I mean, there's even a specific section about ending the murder of trans WoC. It's good stuff.
That said... gotta agree, even as a member of the LGBTQ+ community, the thread title kind of oversells it, as do a lot of the responses in the thread. I think if it was presented differently I wouldn't feel this lingering feeling of confusion in the back of my head.
I also beg people who were enthralled by this response to check out her actual plans, which are really good and thought out. My only qualm is that she still refuses to clarify what M4A means to her. Is it single payer? Is it a public option available for anyone? Is it something you default to if you don't have a private plan? What? Everything else though, is solid gold, and I sincerely hope other candidates put out similar plans soon. I mean, there's even a specific section about ending the murder of trans WoC. It's good stuff.
Good thing they didn't say our rights as people were frivolous. I think it's a bit far to say what she said is frivolous, but I definitely agree with them that what people should really be excited about are her plans for policy, not a soundclip. But, I mean, if you really are floored positively by her response, don't let me or anyone take that from you. My feelings, I guess, are more directed at the cis straight people who are getting overexcited.
From my experience, most of our fellow "Christians" just cherry pick shit out of the bible to fit their own garbage beliefs. Conservatives are only Christian in order to hedge their bets on eternal life while simultaneously fucking over everyone they can on this Earth. And the ones that actually believe in their faith seem to think that unless this entire country stands in lockstep with their fucked up world view then we are all going to burn in hell because people did some shit in the old testament.
I don't think the teaching of Jesus are being missed. More like actively being ignored due to inconvenience.
I really hate politics. I'm sure her base loves her. She's won them over and can do no wrong. The first part of quote is fine but I'm not sure how the second part wins over black voters and swing states.
I still can't believe she said this on national TV and didn't receive any outcry from her supporters.
I still can't believe she said this on national TV and didn't receive any outcry from her supporters.
Not American but please please have her be your next president. Its the 'beat' she took, thats both savage and classy - love it.
Sincerely - the world.
Sincerely - the world.
yes, the democratic base is famously going to be very up in arms about this lol wtf.
Future Madame President, that was perfect.
Me, this past three years: "Man, I'm surely glad I'm not American!"
Me, now: "Man, I really wish I was American so I could vote for her!"
Me, now: "Man, I really wish I was American so I could vote for her!"
We're trying but our election season is too goddamn long. It's still 9+ months out before we even know who the nominee will be, and another 3 months after that before we even get to vote. Ugh can't it just be October 2020 already?
If the democrats don't make her the nominee, but instead pick that out of touch ass Biden then there's no hope left for the US.
Yup black Christians are definitely known to vote red, yup.
I will say I don't think this will offend black Christians tho.
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Not even american and I can't take 9+ months of this
too much pageantry in your politics
Yes it isn't, like, earth shattering — but you have to understand, Thread-Whiners — a charismatic politician with an ounce of principle being within spitting distance of the democratic nomination is cause for celebration.
It's exciting to see her *not fucking it up*. It's like, "thank goodness, I remember what competency feels like to watch".
It's exciting to see her *not fucking it up*. It's like, "thank goodness, I remember what competency feels like to watch".
Well I should probably clarify that I meant "identify" as Christian, as in, their whole identity is Christian, not just somebody that considers themselves Christian. So Evangelicals because it's only going to be those types that are offended by something like this. If this offends you, yeah, you're the type that's going to be voting Trump anyway. Am I wrong?
I'm sorry if that's how you read my post - it certainly wasn't my intention, nor do I think it's warren's intention to trivialize LGBTQ+ rights, considering the proposals she recently put forward (not to mention smaller gestures of allyship like adding pronouns on her Twitter profile). but as a firm believer in policy over personality, I think too often moments like these have the unintended effect of lowering the standard of conversation to zingers at homophobes, or, even worse, bolstering the LGBTQ+ allyship cred of someone who doesn't have the policy to back it up (again, I don't believe this applies to warren, but another example that comes to mind is pelosi's trump zingers being celebrated while ignoring the fact that she was still trying to compromise with the GOP). this isn't meant to take away from anything positive that people are gaining from a minor viral moment like this, I just think we need to be a little careful about how we let these moments bury the actual policy discussions that will actually make a difference in the end
if you didn't truncate my post, you'd see the second half of it says that you can indeed do both if you like, but I personally am quite tired of an election cycle that prioritizes reporting zingers like these over substantive policy
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You don't think this clip among others has showcased her charisma?
Noun - compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.
Yes Obama was Charismatic but it does seem to be a rare quality amongst Democrats, so yeah, it's pretty refreshing to see from Warren here.
I'm gonna be that guy and say Biden was charismatic.... Folksy yet relatively progressive....Before the creepy videos went viral and constant on-screen gaffes of course
She's definitely likeable and more of this helps for sure.
Prime Obama was truly a god on the stage. His charisma is what you get from high powered movie stars, not politicians.
If would offset some of our fascist, racist, Brexit misery over here if you guys could elect Elizabeth Warren.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Considering the talentless, humorless, dumb as shit, good for nothing tumor that is president now, i can understand Americans being impressed.
They haven't heard an openminded intelligent funny thing in years.
It's politics, this would be exciting to the public before Trump was on the scene.
Nah.
But would you had made the comparison between Obama's charisma and the turd in chief's charisma instead. Then yes, Obama would be a fucking shiny golden god.
Yes you are, don't know if you're black or not but there are black Christians who are pretty equal to evangelicals but still vote blue and use their religion to be anti-lgbtqi+.
My sentiments exactly. People freaking out over this puzzles me.
