Maybe don't wear Aviator like glasses when you're the head of a weird Christian organization, not the best image to invoke. Especially when you look like the fuck boi version of David Koresh as is.
Oh this guy? Yeah he always gave me the skeevies. carl Lentz
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Ellen Page calls out Chris Pratt's "infamously anti-LGBTQ" church
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Sorry, didn't wanted to diminished you in any way, I just wanted to make a distinction between persons and ideas.
I need to be more aware of what Ellen Page says and does. More than anyone in the public eye, she exemplifies who I can relate to and trust as a guiding light. It takes a lot of strength and courage to put yourself out there standing up to the power structure that perpetuates ignorance and hate. Chris Pratt is just another dope in a cult.
You might want to rethink your word choices then.
LGBTQ people's lives aren't "causes" or "concepts."
Faiths that are anti-LGBTQ are actively denying our personhood and it's important to identify that in conversations like these.
Some day in the future, people are going to be amazed about anti-LGBTQ sentiment still existing, much like how people said "I thought racism was gone..."
There is a general idea I see sometime that people thing "no one cares anymore".
There is a general idea I see sometime that people thing "no one cares anymore".
Just to point out, being/living as a gay person is not a "lifestyle".
How can someone who believes their religion as the divine guide to let things slide? If they're claiming the bible is the word of God, you can't let rules slide left and right, no?
What exactly Chris Pratt church says referring to LGBT? Honest question, I'm not aware.
I can see how that might make a difference, depending on where you're from.
It's not the norm in smaller towns and less common in Catholic churches but I would say the majority rather than the minority of Protestant churches in larger cities are pro LGBTQ to some degree, some even run by queer leadership. It's what makes this kind of church a somewhat unique choice when there would presumably be quite a few more progressive options in the exact same area.
I totally agree. I'm just referring to people who I've heard say shit like "I like gay people. I just don't disagree with the lifestyle." I was confused if that's what the person I was replying to was talking about when talking about "cause".
I'm really sorry, I'm not familiared with the terms.
We probably just disagree in one thing, in my opinion people are allowed to have a faith incompatible with LGBT, but of course doesn't authorize any disrespect at any person since everyone is free.
I'm not religious but I went to a university youth church once with a friend to show support for our other friend who was drumming in the church band that night. Was all fine and dandy until the youth pastor (a biology student) got up and started going on about avoiding partying and sinning which swerved into how being gay was a sin.
Needless to say shit was wack as fuck. Never went to his church again. Also couldn't stand his church friends
Needless to say shit was wack as fuck. Never went to his church again. Also couldn't stand his church friends
This is what I thought too. Very surprised that there are a lot of really mainstream churches that ignore scripture for the sake of progress and inclusivity
If only other Abrahamic religions would follow suit. But we're not ready for that conversation....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHR8hofbbQo
Just cringey as fuck. Underneath the hip and glossy veneer, it's the same bullshit anti-LGBTQ and pro-life bullshit. Good on Ellen for bringing it up.
I feel like Hollywood people are so dumb sometimes. Like they legitimately just glom onto whatever stupid thing their Hollywood friends are doing or what their agent tells them without any critical thinking or investigation on their part. This particular church is basically spreading around like Scientology among Christian celebrities, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it blow up as more gross things are dug up about it and its leaders.
I'm from Brazil. Here roman catholics are the majority and protestant churches are massively against same sex relationship, that's why I was surprised, I tought protestant churches in USA were in this line.
And that's why it's important to not let folks like Pratt whitewash it all.
Ellen Page is great.
Chris Pratt sucks.
And she hasn't been in a high profile Hollywood movie since forever and he's in... Almost everything. Sigh.
Chris Pratt sucks.
And she hasn't been in a high profile Hollywood movie since forever and he's in... Almost everything. Sigh.
You could insert almost any church's name in there and it still fits. Its kind of a normal thing in Christianity to not be big fans of LGTBQ or abortion/women's rights so not too surprising, its all just varying degrees at how open they are about it really.
I don't see that way because a person not agreeing with another, doesn't mean that don't have respect as a human being.
People think differently, I don't think you can force anyone to be in favour of same sex relationship or abortion as an exemple, but respect people choices and their way of live is essential.
Being against LGBTQ people isn't "conservative."
It's a radical and bizarre stance.
If you fundamentally disagree with LGBTQ people's ability to live and love their then yes, you're disrespecting them.
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Can't force but that doesn't make it ok.
You can't disagree with homosexuality. That's bigotry
Like I said you're absolutely normalizing homophobia
"I believe you are a sinful abomination and are going to hell and don't think you should exist but I respect you."
Gee, thanks.
There's already enough material in this thread alone to make a sequel to Key and Peele's Gay Wedding Advice skit.
...they're advocating conversion-therapy. People were, and still are, scarred for life because of that. Gay people who attends conversion-therapy is 5 times more likely to attempt suicide than the others. And we know that the suicide-rate is already higher for LGBT+ than heteros.
You don't have any problem with that?
Well, I'm sure some people act that way, but this isn't the real christianity.
Sinners we all are according to the christian faith. No one is an abomination and shouldn't exist because of being gay or whatever.
Not really. It's radical and bizarre anywhere and everywhere it might manifest.
You're so full of shit lmao. Like yeah if you're "not in favor" of same sex relationship you're a homophobe, pretty simple really.
Replace "lgbtq" with any ethnic minority of your choice.
"I am not in favor of black people, but I respect them"
It's batshit nuts and unacceptable.
Wow...and people are ok with this? Thanks for posting, I've never seen this or heard of this dude.
Gee I didn't know thinking it's wrong to be homophobic makes one an edgy athiest .
Thanks for normalizing homophobia though...
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Oh, shit. She's actually going for it.
Pretty sure. The minister used to pal around with Bieber quite a bit.
Let's agree to disagree. For me have phobia of a person is one thing, have a personal belief is another.
Wow I didn't know that, super disappointed!
I would not want to associate with anyone who thinks like you do. Your « respect » is worthless, and we can see through people like you in a second.
I would not want to associate with anyone who thinks like you do. Your « respect » is worthless, and we can see through people like you in a second.
No let's not
And stop normalizing homophobia
You can't love a gay person but hate gayness
No, let's not.
You're normalizing homophobia and it's objectively morally reprehensible to do so.