Elon Musk says he's the first person with Asperger's syndrome to host SNL

HStallion

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He's also the first son of a gem mine owner but he's probably not going to admit that.
 

Volimar

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Google says Dan Aykroyd hosted in 2003 sooo...

Volimar What’s the current terminology? As someone with Aspergers I’m out of the loop.

People with Asperger's are now generally considered to be part of the autism spectrum. The most significant difference is that those with autism usually have developmental struggles (like speaking) the first few years of life and those with Asperger's often don't. Looking online real quick there's still a lot of people using the term so maybe it's not so outdated.
 

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People with Asperger's are now generally considered to be part of the autism spectrum. The most significant difference is that those with autism usually have developmental struggles (like speaking) the first few years of life and those with Asperger's often don't. Looking online real quick there's still a lot of people using the term so maybe it's not so outdated.
I mean if it's no longer use as a medical diagnosis it's outdated, it doesn't matter if people still use it, lots of people still use lots of outdated terms.
 

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I mean if it's no longer use as a medical diagnosis it's outdated, it doesn't matter if people still use it, lots of people still use lots of outdated terms.
If he grew up using the old terminology, chances are he’ll keep using it out of habit. It’s not a demeaning term afaik.

Just like older canadian people keep using the imperial system even though everything is in metric now
 

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People with Asperger's are now generally considered to be part of the autism spectrum. The most significant difference is that those with autism usually have developmental struggles (like speaking) the first few years of life and those with Asperger's often don't. Looking online real quick there's still a lot of people using the term so maybe it's not so outdated.
Oh ok, for some reason I read your comment more as “we have a new term such as “so and so” disorder to describe people on that part of the spectrum. Gotcha though. Thanks.
 

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If he grew up using the old terminology, chances are he’ll keep using it out of habit. It’s not a demeaning term afaik.

Just like older canadian people keep using the imperial system even though everything is in metric now
Of course, it largely depends on intent, outdated is outdated but it can be seen as permissible given certain criteria.
It's generally preferred by a lot of folks than just being called autistic.
I have it, I know. Things have gotten better but the Autism Boogeyman is still there in the background to some degree.
 

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He's also the first son of a gem mine owner but he's probably not going to admit that.
Not to defend Musk, but I was always intrigued by this and whether he had mining money backing him growing up. Turns out its not true, his family did not get wealthy from it. In fact, his father's mining efforts were a complete failure.

Musk's still a dumbass though, but the idea he's a rich daddy boy is not true.
 

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given that it turns out that Hans Asperger was a nazi I would very much like to keep that term away from me thanks
 

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Apocrypha

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Where did you hear that? Down sydrome is still the standard term AFAIK and IDD is a different thing entirely. Down syndrome is not just an intellectual disabilty its a complex gentic condition.
Thanks for correcting me then, hmm where did I hear that now, I heard this years ago so I'm a bit unsure honestly, but I know I definitely did not come up with it on my own.
 

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I once got into a discord fight with an MBTI focused channel because I asserted musk was not intp like they desired but an autistic entj.

i had this argument in the first place because obviously i too am of the autisms.
 

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I once got into a discord fight with an MBTI focused channel because I asserted musk was not intp like they desired but an autistic entj.

i had this argument in the first place because obviously i too am of the autisms.
Why would one desire Musk to have a particular MBTI personality type?

I just want to make sure my personality is as dissimilar to his as humanly possible.
 

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I once got into a discord fight with an MBTI focused channel because I asserted musk was not intp like they desired but an autistic entj.

i had this argument in the first place because obviously i too am of the autisms.
I mean isn’t that whole test complete bullshit with no basis in psychology at all and wasn’t even made by psychologists?
 

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Musk's still a dumbass though, but the idea he's a rich daddy boy is not true.
It is.
Even if his dad didn't owned a mine, he still was a sucessfull enginner and they still lived in a mansion on south africa (some places reports that it was the top3 biggest houses of the country) and his mom is a model AND a doctor
It all points to his dad fucking up and loosing most of his part after Elon was in college but he still got a very privileged and rich life before it, just not stupidly rich
 

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I believe that I also have asperger's syndrome for many years ever since I heard about asperger. I never like to make eye contact and socially awkward. I thought all nerdy geeky videogame players are like that.
I'm glad people with asperger can do well and become CEOs. I will definitely look into Elon more in the future.
 

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It is.
Even if his dad didn't owned a mine, he still was a sucessfull enginner and they still lived in a mansion on south africa (some places reports that it was the top3 biggest houses of the country) and his mom is a model AND a doctor
It all points to his dad fucking up and loosing most of his part after Elon was in college but he still got a very privileged and rich life before it, just not stupidly rich
Let's also not forget about one of the most important things in life: connections. All the rich kinds I've known did really well for themselves partly (greatly I'd argue, since most people don't have that) because they simply knew whoever was important in a particular field. People who have landed excellent jobs, got generous loans or hard to get permits for their business, etc.
 

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People with Asperger's are now generally considered to be part of the autism spectrum. The most significant difference is that those with autism usually have developmental struggles (like speaking) the first few years of life and those with Asperger's often don't. Looking online real quick there's still a lot of people using the term so maybe it's not so outdated.
I mean if it's no longer use as a medical diagnosis it's outdated, it doesn't matter if people still use it, lots of people still use lots of outdated terms.
These, & I'm also someone who happens to have part Asperger's/Autism when I was small.
 

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I'm sure when people give him shit, it has nothing to do with his Asperger's. He's bad in a public setting, that's fine. It's everything else he does. The romanticizing of Mars, spitting on Carl Sagan's remarks about caring for this earth. The lack of unions and crunch culture at Tesla he champions as something for "the vision." Calling a dude who rescued trapped kids a pedophile and sending PIs after him because he didn't like your submarine idea. Poking fun at a potential coup.

Him hosting SNL is going to be a perfect reformation campaign for him. His condition will be presented as the "real thing" people don't like about Musk, that his controversies really amount to smoking weed on a Joe Rogan podcast, and his pretty poor performance will be "the radical left hates the visionary" or something of the kind, when the more honest answer is he isn't funny at all, and that could be his humor, the script he's given, his condition, or a combination of those factors.
 

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Makes sense, he seems like a guy who has some trouble communicating and thus gets misunderstood a lot. He also has a weird sense of humor, which I can relate to as someone on the spectrum myself.
 

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I'm sure when people give him shit, it has nothing to do with his Asperger's. He's bad in a public setting, that's fine. It's everything else he does. The romanticizing of Mars, spitting on Carl Sagan's remarks about caring for this earth. The lack of unions and crunch culture at Tesla he champions as something for "the vision." Calling a dude who rescued trapped kids a pedophile and sending PIs after him because he didn't like your submarine idea. Poking fun at a potential coup.

Him hosting SNL is going to be a perfect reformation campaign for him. His condition will be presented as the "real thing" people don't like about Musk, that his controversies really amount to smoking weed on a Joe Rogan podcast, and his pretty poor performance will be "the radical left hates the visionary" or something of the kind, when the more honest answer is he isn't funny at all, and that could be his humor, the script he's given, his condition, or a combination of those factors.
Here's the thing: People have cited bizarre behaviours and mannerisms on Musk's part as of their misgivings about him. Shit like him making a basic gesture of cradling his arms like holding a baby and going 'baby'. To me, a basic shorthand with an accompanying gesticulation. To others, a sign he isn't to be trusted because he's weeeeeird.

Mind, he would be very much a case where I see the worst habits of this condition we share reflected in him. The kind of person whose wealth, both by family and his own, has shielded him from the need for any social training or other adjustment; indeed, has almost certainly exacerbated the self-centered lens and given a sense of assuming he's right by default, having the money and means to pursue whatever solution he comes fixated on, even where it becomes untenable. He ain't an asshole because he's autistic, but it is not at all surprising to me, as an autistic person, that this asshole would be too.

Now the over/under is whether or not he's self-diagnosed based on his own research or not.
 

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Always good to see things like this put out there, representation is important.

I'm sure when people give him shit, it has nothing to do with his Asperger's. He's bad in a public setting, that's fine. It's everything else he does.
Nah, lot's of people go after his "awkward" "mannerisms", how poor he is at public speaking, etc. Not all of it, for sure, but a significant portion.

A lot of the anti-Musk stuff is incredibly ableist, and you shouldn't let your personal feelings towards Musk cloud how ugly a lot of the attacks on him are.
 

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Yeah I can actually believe that as dumb as a lot of his words and actions are.

Edit: This is obviously meant sincerely. I think the dude is an ass and lies quite regularly, but I believe him here.
 
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