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Elon Musk's "Loop" - It's bad, folks [donoteat01]
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A 40 minute long video with just a vague description of what it is and no commentary whatsoever is super low effort.
It's what the title says it is. He deconstructs why the loop is a dumb idea.
He's not a right-winger/gamer gator from what I've seen so far.
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It's like a really bad and extremely dated roller coaster, I have heard https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-n...er-fans-see-familiar-tech-elon-musk-s-n951311
He is a commie hahaha
I am glad I support him through patreon
As much as love YT, stuff like this makes me miss the written word lol.
Yeah. My patience with YouTube content is twenty minutes, and that's for highly professional presentations such as Matt O'Dowd's PBS Space Time. I prefer it when people just write their arguments down as text so I'm able to read through it at my own pace.
What are the chances that some random Youtuber's with no real expertise have figured out anything on this topic that Elon and his massive team of engineers don't already know? You think they start up a company without fully understanding the challenges? There's a big difference between "challenging" and "dumb idea". Like no shit there will be problems, but this is the same guy who's companies revolutionized and disrupted the auto and space industries. We can argue ethics of Elon and his companies all day, but I frankly don't have the time of day for arguments of incompetence.
Even if this loop project fails miserably, it won't be because they didn't fully understand the challenges going into it.
Even if this loop project fails miserably, it won't be because they didn't fully understand the challenges going into it.
I completely agree, and don't watch anything over 10-15 mins now on youtube. /shrug
I clicked on the video to see what "donoteat01" meant (it's the person who posted the video).
Video highlights two unavoidable flaws, even if you think everything else is going to work out fine:
1) Your car is guided along tunnels at 150 mph. This will induce wear and tear on your wheels. You're going to have to fork over money to keep those wheels in good condition just to use these tunnels even before you factor in any other expenses like fees, etc. The record lap for Formula One racing is 160mph. Your car will be expected to travel a bit below that over multiple miles.
2) In the event of an accident, like a guide breaking down, it will create a catastrophic death trap for about everyone in a specific tunnel because there isn't nearly enough time to break (due to the aforementioned 150 mph travel time).
1) Your car is guided along tunnels at 150 mph. This will induce wear and tear on your wheels. You're going to have to fork over money to keep those wheels in good condition just to use these tunnels even before you factor in any other expenses like fees, etc. The record lap for Formula One racing is 160mph. Your car will be expected to travel a bit below that over multiple miles.
2) In the event of an accident, like a guide breaking down, it will create a catastrophic death trap for about everyone in a specific tunnel because there isn't nearly enough time to break (due to the aforementioned 150 mph travel time).
You think Elon actually put urban planners and urban engineers to this task?
Do you think all engineering is interchangeable? That an electrical or car engineer can just switch and design a underground urban tunnel system?
The video lists multiple other pie-in-the-sky engineering projects. The idea is that there's always a project here or there (related to transport) that promises to work miracles but rarely ever pan out. The idea that all engineering projects succeed and no one ever overestimates their own capabilities is just naive.
I know it's 40 mins long and that's a bit of a tall ask but you can try to watch the video before coming out swinging like this. At the very least if you don't want to watch it maybe don't comment.
He actually does have some real expertise given that he has a degree in civil engineering (I think it's that)
He's a socialist
Yes I think that all engineering is interchangeable /s
C'mon. My point, which really shouldn't be hard to figure out, is that there's no way they invest the money and resources into a project like this without doing a comprehensive risk analysis.
I've already clicked on the topic before finding out it's just a link to a 40 minute video. If OP watched it, then it should be easy to write a few of the salient points in the OP.
i mean we already knew it's a terrible idea lol
it's public transport, but without all the cost, environmental and efficiency benefits that make public transport worthwhile.
it's public transport, but without all the cost, environmental and efficiency benefits that make public transport worthwhile.
Elon isn't some magic engineering genius that just knocks it out of the park every time. Just look at his goofy ass attempt to save those trapped kids in Thailand.
Stop being obtuse. The title of the video is that it is a "dumb idea" and the premise is that he is going to explain why it's dumb. If it's so dumb, again, why would they invest a ton of money and resources into it? I'm watching it now and he's just discussing the challenging aspects. Challenging is one thing, dumb is another. I'm sure there were tons of independent gotcha pieces like this when Elon said he was going to disrupt the space exploration industry too. Dime a dozen.
Thanks for this video. Was very informative and funny in an unintentional way. When he started talking about the physics behind stopping in the tunnel I about lost it...you would think the engineers and musk himself would realize how insane this is logistically?
Then why were you talking about Elon and his engineers as any of them had any real knowledge about urban transportation and development?
I'm sure he dove straight into this project without consulting anyone who's knowledgeable about urban transportation and development. Is that what you think?
Considering we know that Musk is an insufferable bellend, he probably did do that, yes.
Can't watch a 40 minute video right now, but regarding point 1 in the OP, aren't the car's tires in a "sled" of sorts and they don't really move? That was how I've understood it.
Anyways, I think the whole tunnel idea is dumb and just a way for Elon to have a private road where he doesn't have to be stuck with the plebs in traffic.
Anyways, I think the whole tunnel idea is dumb and just a way for Elon to have a private road where he doesn't have to be stuck with the plebs in traffic.
That was the old design.
However this was the latest iteration during the "tech demo" a few months back:
The wheels are to the ground and they're guided by those circle things on the sides.
The design is already used for guided buses in various european countries.
Uh he mocked a well known and respect urban planner and engineer.
So you think he will consult the Experts?
Or is this the same Elon that claimed that full automation hasent been properly done with car manufacture?
And he then had to switch back to conventional production in tents all the while GM was telling him full automation would fail because they tried it before?
You mean that Elon Musk?
I see, ya that's not gonna be ideal for wear if you're going 150mph. What about 100mph though?That was the old design.
However this was the latest iteration during the "tech demo" a few months back:
The wheels are to the ground and they're guided by those circle things on the sides.
The design is already used for guided buses in various european countries.
The video in this article gives a great look at the tire attachments: https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/12/...first-tunnel--heres-what-its-like-inside.html
Just finished watching this. It's a great vid. Well thought out and humorous at times. There's a lot of common sense applied and some new things I didn't know much about such as the tunneling machines. Thanks for sharing op.
Yeah because Elon never had dumb shitty ideas that couldn't actually work before
He never called someone a pedophile for pointing out it was a shitty idea that wouldn't work, no sir.