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Elseworlds |OT| Batwoman Forever - DC TV Crossover, Dec 9-11 on The CW
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Lol yea that was funny, especially since his excuse was so dumb.
The downside of having these characters cross over is that they pretty much have to either constantly come up with ways to nerf Kara, or underutilize her so that she's not obliterating everyone by herself.
Though now I want to see a Kara vs. Eobard Thawne fight.
I'm not even talking just action-wise, but overall. Even in her own show, her highlight was the speech to Alex, and then handing Superman a book.
And I don't really want to acknowledge that earth rotation thing, that was just dumb.
It's just a shame Batwoman wasn't already introduced before this, because Kara being stuck as Kate Kane and Kate being stuck as Kara would've been amazing.
Best part of the special was the "Save Me" song introduction to the Smallville farm .
I was disappointed we didn't get more of Batwoman but what was there was great. I hope we get a show featuring her in Gotham. Same thing with Earth 90 Barry Allen. He was so under utilized. I was under the impression we would be seeing more Earth 90 super heroes like the Smallville Green Arrow.
Who was the guy who said the "Worlds will live" line at the end with the mask?
I was disappointed we didn't get more of Batwoman but what was there was great. I hope we get a show featuring her in Gotham. Same thing with Earth 90 Barry Allen. He was so under utilized. I was under the impression we would be seeing more Earth 90 super heroes like the Smallville Green Arrow.
Who was the guy who said the "Worlds will live" line at the end with the mask?
Is there any crossover where Oliver isn't the MVP? Maybe the Earth-X one but i would have to watch that one again.
When the Batwoman show starts expect Batman and joker to be in limbo
Probably some of the major bat villains as well
I'm not sure about this one. We saw cells for Penguin, Riddler, Ivy... I guess Mr. Freeze was replaced with his wife?
He disappeared 3 years ago, which is roughly the same time that Ra's died.
I kid of course. But I mean, imagine.
We saw Harley Quinn on Arrow, as well, and everyone keeps talking about Ferris Air all the time.
Jokey references are different than Papa DC letting them outright use the characters. :(
Batman and Joker are out of the picture because they had a fight at a waterfall and Batman put a weird hold on Joker and they both fell to their presumed death.
We also had a Quinn cameo but we never saw her again and Deadshot is still dead
Anyway at the least I would be surprised if joker ever appears besides an Easter egg or something
Honestly ivy and riddler probably safe, clayface when they get the budget blahs blahs blahs
Things are different now than what they were back with that Harley cameo. With Gotham ending soon and Batwoman being set in, you know, Gotham, I wouldn't be surprised if they brought Batman's rogues from time to time. Maybe not Joker and Harley, but everyone else should be fair game.
"Batwoman! Clayface has taken the form of Gorilla Grodd and is rampaging through that one plaza downtown!"
I'd shit my pants if Death of the Family and Endgame were apart of the Arrowverse
I wouldn't mind this
I haven't seen any of Supergirl or Arrow this season and I did fine with the crossover. Surprise - there's more stupid Oliver/Felicity relationship drama.
No, all you need to know is that Oliver just got out of prison after serving 7 months and has been outed as the Green Arrow.
I stopped watching Arrow midway through last season and I've never watched Supergirl apart from the previous crossovers, and I understood everything well enough. Most stuff you can pick up on context, or it's just unimportant to the crossover.
So as someone who hasn't watch the shows at all in awhile you can watch it and not feel lost so long as we know that little bit of info?
Pretty much. Ollie and Felicity are having some drama (what else is new?) due to Oliver's decision to just turn himself in without talking to Felicity about it first. Cisco has bandages on his hands cause the big bad in Flash cut them with his magic dagger thing (don't worry, it doesn't really affect anything in the story for this). Annnnnd the President on Kara's Earth mandated that she'd have to reveal her identity if she wanted to continue working for the DEO, to which Kara refused.
What if Oliver's sacrifice isn't his own life- but one of the two Earths?
The combined Prime Earth is a direct result of Oliver's deal.
Another option? Oliver sacrifices himself, but the Monitor interprets it as sacrificing his true self - he loses his darkness, and has to spend the rest of season 8 learning to be a hero without channeling darkness.
The combined Prime Earth is a direct result of Oliver's deal.
Another option? Oliver sacrifices himself, but the Monitor interprets it as sacrificing his true self - he loses his darkness, and has to spend the rest of season 8 learning to be a hero without channeling darkness.
It felt especially contrived to me (which I admit is a weird thing to get hung up on considering everything else that happens in this crossover).
Evil Batman would be the perfect foil for Oliver, leading to Oliver, Barry, Clark, and Kara founding the Justice League.
I think crossover was good but nothing too memorable happened. I imagine they wanted to scale back this year and save material for next year's event.
Even as someone who doesn't watch Supergirl, I though Kara didn't get nearly enough time to shine.
The guy playing Superman looks like he always holding back laughter. Guy looked like he couldn't stop grinning.
Even as someone who doesn't watch Supergirl, I though Kara didn't get nearly enough time to shine.
The guy playing Superman looks like he always holding back laughter. Guy looked like he couldn't stop grinning.
Nah, Prometheus was motivated entirely by revenge.
Evil Batman would be more analogous to Oliver since he tried and failed to save Gotham for years.
New Rockstars did a crazy good breakdown of all the Easter Eggs and connections from the 3 episodes. This may help some of you that were confused at certain parts.
Not sure if this was posted, but there's a reason Rosenbaum and Welling were on Amell's Instagram, and it obviously wasn't for a cameo-
https://nockingpointwines.com/tastemakers-club/
They're doing a wine club.
Only Arrowverse show I watch is Legends, and I enjoyed the crossover quite a bit.
https://nockingpointwines.com/tastemakers-club/
They're doing a wine club.
Only Arrowverse show I watch is Legends, and I enjoyed the crossover quite a bit.
That was pretty bad. Completely forgettable story and laughable dialogue. The evil twin, alternate character thing is now overdone and weak.
Legends is rocking it, but I think I'm onboard with the idea of cancelling these 3 shows. After this crossover, I have no faith in Crisis being any good. Just move on with different DC shows.
Legends is rocking it, but I think I'm onboard with the idea of cancelling these 3 shows. After this crossover, I have no faith in Crisis being any good. Just move on with different DC shows.
I mean, after you flatten the Multiverse you can't introduce new versions of Harrison Wells, and what even is Flash at that point?
I mean in a world where Superman exists(and poorly assembled elements like the Fortress) if someone saw Superman fighting another Superman you'd probably assume its one of Superman's common enemies Bizarro instead of a random alt earth Superman.
Like if Batwoman was fighting Flash's Trickster someone would probably shout "Joker!"
Just finished it and I have to say it was pretty damn lame. I was expecting more from the alter ego switch than a straight body swap. Would have been more fun to see how Barry Allen might have become the Green Arrow and Oliver Queen become the Flash. Nothing Deegan did made sense. They give you this intro where it sounds like he wants to give everyone powers so that they can experience being special and when given the keys to reality he.... switches Barry and Oliver's bodies? What? Why? What is the motivation for anything he's doing? Batwoman doesn't really do anything interesting or give me any reason to care about her show. More lame "The darkness in Oliver!" stuff and some throw away thing where Barry is embracing it for two seconds and might risk becoming dark! Oh no! So fucking corny. Just realized while typing this that the Legends don't show up at all which is why this feels smaller than usual. 90's Flash is there for only two seconds which is lame. Then the whole slowing time down thing because the Earth is slowed?! Come on. I know this stuff plays fast and loose with science and stuff but really? I don't care if it's an homage, it was lame then and it's lame now. The whole thing was lame.
Just finished it and I have to say it was pretty damn lame. I was expecting more from the alter ego switch than a straight body swap. Would have been more fun to see how Barry Allen might have become the Green Arrow and Oliver Queen become the Flash. Nothing Deegan did made sense. They give you this intro where it sounds like he wants to give everyone powers so that they can experience being special and when given the keys to reality he.... switches Barry and Oliver's bodies? What? Why? What is the motivation for anything he's doing? Batwoman doesn't really do anything interesting or give me any reason to care about her show. More lame "The darkness in Oliver!" stuff and some throw away thing where Barry is embracing it for two seconds and might risk becoming dark! Oh no! So fucking corny. Just realized while typing this that the Legends don't show up at all which is why this feels smaller than usual. 90's Flash is there for only two seconds which is lame. Then the whole slowing time down thing because the Earth is slowed?! Come on. I know this stuff plays fast and loose with science and stuff but really? I don't care if it's an homage, it was lame then and it's lame now. The whole thing was lame.
They explained that in the episode. He wanted to make himself the Flash, but he sucked at using the book so instead he made Oliver the Flash.
The "Save Me" part was probably the best part of this whole thing lol. Genuinely enjoyed that.
I audibly laughed at that when I was watching the episode. Best Easter Egg in the whole crossover.
