Sure, man, sure. We have no-go zones and shit. In the night you hear the gunshots and the Allahu Akbars and it gets scary. The men run around like rabid dogs, preying on white virgins.
Ok. Is the evidence in the NY Times op-ed false? I'll gladly revise my opinion and advice if so.
Emphasis mine.
I mean, France has even seen a wave of Islamist terrorist attacks against Jews: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_21st-century_France#21st_century
Op-Eds are not scientific evidence of any kind, nor are they even editorialized by the journal itself. The article is a half-truth as well. In any case, Sweden is a small country and not really representative of the experience OP would have in the EU.
From the paper's conclusions said:
GF says exactly the same, same story and it's the rightwing locals the ones that scare her the most. (In her case it's more because she has a Mexican accent and is dark-skinned, though) Thankfully here in Spain we have our own politics that are a bit isolated from elsewhere in the EU, for the bad and for the good.
I mean, France has even seen a wave of Islamist terrorist =attacks against Jews: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_21st-century_France#21st_century
And it's not just news articles to back Chairman Yang's statement, it's also studies and polls. E.g.:
http://www.hlsenteret.no/publikasjo...isk-vold-i-europa_engelsk_endelig-versjon.pdf
http://www.dw.com/en/israeli-flag-b...igmar-gabriel-to-back-outlawing-it/a-41806074
Edit: Just for reference, Muslims make up 5-6% of the German population according to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Germany
Go on with quoting:
I shouldn't have to look for the study when quoting Deutsche Welle which is government funded news service like the BBC. It's a trusted source. Also I doubt it's available in English.
You can't just assume they refer to their 'Muslim portion' of the report when stating their regret about lacking data.
France may be a hotbed for terrorism, but the only specific group being targeted by native French Islamists are Jews. Funny that.
Germany: 81% of all physical attacks against Jews perpetrated by Muslims who make up 5-6% of the population as per German study.
I don't see where those studies talk about increases or decreases in antisemitism or risk for Jews, nor how vastly different and diverse Muslim in different countries are comparable at all. (You gonna compare Algerians and Tunisians who've spent decades in France with other more recent inmigrants or with totally different communities in Germany or elsewhere?) Accepting the higher rate of violence against Jews from Muslims in Europe, there are SO MANY factors to study, related to policy, to economics, to education, and a long etcetera, that trying to establish causality let alone make a choice of a country from those articles (Beyond not moving to fucking Hungary) is stupid. That is, of course, before we consider what's going on in the US or in Canada. Let's not forget that Chairman was arguing that OP should move to Canada because Canada's muslims are part of " The good ones". What happens with antisemitic violence there?
Don't you know? The moment you cross over that border you enter complete permafrost!
I am talking about current governments, and the israeli government is one of the worst governments in the world when it comes to respecting human rights and also respecting international laws.
That's word for word what mods write into people's ban msgs. Cool, let's get me banned then.
I have not conducted a study to prove causation of 'Europe (exemplified by Germany & France) become(s) increasingly unsafe for the Jewish population due mostly to the Muslim population'. This is neither the place, nor do I have the resources & expertise to conduct such a study.
The original article he quoted used false statistics from a paper that recognized it was difficult to measure the effects in the poll that the broader islamist terrorism issue and Islamophobia, or other cultural differences between countries could bring. It did however offer some insight to the correlation between Anti-Israel antisemitism and violence. In any case, implying the correlation between larger Muslim populations and antisemitism is absurd, more if we consider that the different European countries have very differing demographics and histories of their Muslim populations. Even if the Muslim populations of France or Germany (By the way, many are second and third generation) are disproportionately responsible for hate crimes against Jews, so are they for hate crimes and terrorism in general, after all we are dealing with the consequences of some Muslim communities falling to the claws of extremism. However and once again, those societies that are welcoming and open to Muslim migrants are generally safer, more democratic and less violent (Including towards the Jews) than those who are not. Dealing with the issues that the intersection of race, religion and cultural integration bring is a small price to pay for an open, multicultural society.
I'm saying, it's not that there is a disproportionate rate of antisemitic attacks from Muslims, there is a disproportionate rate of terrorist attacks as well. Which makes sense considering they are a marginalized and demonized group, as well as one vulnerable to religious fanatics funded by the usual suspects. Still, I believe that's simply a symptom of an imperfect open society, as opposed to a racist or supremacist society that would close its doors to refugees and migrants all while not having any muslims of its own.
Careful with analyzing data on your own. Unless you know what you're doing, you're best off sticking to what the data analysts conclude and no more than that. "Muslims make up 5-6% of the German population according to this..." doesn't account for place of residents for instance. Perhaps Jews and Muslims tend to live in cities where they're more likely to run into one another than your "6% of the German population" stat let's on? Either way, you'd have to control for that and certainly many other variables before you state a causation. Anti-semitism among Muslims is most certainly a problem, but I suggest you stick to stat analyses of people who do that for a living.
The Norwegian paper cites a number of European countries in which Muslims harbor antisemitic views to a disproportionate degree.
The nuances you mentioned do not appear to matter in my interpretation. I singled out the percentage of Muslims to signify the enormity of '81% of antisemitic violence in Germany' being perpetrated by Muslims, nothing more.
I'm talking exclusively about European Union, Western, Central and Northen Europe specifically. Not every country has the same Muslim community, and I'm not very knowledgeable on the German Turks or about the success of the refugee program in Germany, but I feel like you are mixing several countries in order to draw conclusions from something it's not easy to draw conclusions from. As someone earlier has said, both Muslims and Jews tend to live in cities, that to me sounds like a possible factor in the overrepresentation of Muslims in Germany's antisemitic attacks. That, and the realities of marginalization and of the Israeli-Arab conflict with its implications abroad. Other EU countries have different realities, but all of them share different degrees of marginalization of their Muslim communities, some of those marginalizations have resulted in forms of Islamic terrorism, and in many countries it's difficult to establish a real causality between Muslim communities and antisemitic attacks.
That's the difference between a journalist and a social scientist. The journalist points out such things as a gotcha! that should inform policy, a social scientist is cautious in establishing causality and looks into the factors that might play into the data. As it stands, that means nothing. Studies based on reporting can obviously be biased as well, especially on such a contentious issue as islamophobia.
