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Engadget: Google is disappointing the Stadia community
- Thread starter Earvin Infinity
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I feel like this wont really matter in the long run. If they can truly get the Stadia app on most smart devices and support any controller, there wont be any barrier to entry 5, 6, 7 years down the line when the service could look a little more legit, its not like they put out a bomba console and have to try to move on from it. Obviously it sucks for the people that are invested in Stadia (why?!?) but that's the risk you take
Doubt it will be anything other than a modest success though, but hopefully they can set themselves up as a decent competitor in the long term
Doubt it will be anything other than a modest success though, but hopefully they can set themselves up as a decent competitor in the long term
Probably should worry about the service lasting past this year before throwing out hypotheticals 5+ years down the line.
You're all just too negative about anything new and don't want to give anything a chance.
The problem is Google is being Google and not a video game console developer. Cold, distant, assured of their success and screaming it with their ads with the one guy while trying to wipe away the responsibility in actually being more than just a platform.
I remember one video talking about Google's obsession with having the next "IT" feature that plagues all their failed launches. It can't just be 1080p, it has to be pushing the bounds of 4k even if it can't actually do that yet. It can't just have minimal latency, it has to have magical bullshit "negative latency", whatever that means. And all that does is make it more and more likely that they'll drop balls somewhere.
I remember one video talking about Google's obsession with having the next "IT" feature that plagues all their failed launches. It can't just be 1080p, it has to be pushing the bounds of 4k even if it can't actually do that yet. It can't just have minimal latency, it has to have magical bullshit "negative latency", whatever that means. And all that does is make it more and more likely that they'll drop balls somewhere.
Serious question, how have they "grown [Stadia] significantly since launch"?
I really don't like their attitude about it being about 'bold statements' and 'where we're going' in the future. The fact is they're selling a product now this is viewed as being a disappointment instead of a hit. I'm hoping their next event or if they show at E3 will help course-correct, because I would love for it to succeed.
I really don't like their attitude about it being about 'bold statements' and 'where we're going' in the future. The fact is they're selling a product now this is viewed as being a disappointment instead of a hit. I'm hoping their next event or if they show at E3 will help course-correct, because I would love for it to succeed.
Or it's just not appealing, especially with things like xCloud on the way.
I dont see why it wouldnt last awhile tbh, it's not like they cant easily get new users once they have no barrier to entry. I doubt its costing them much to run the service
That's a ... harsh article.
Shots fired!
Ouch.
Shots fired!
Ouch.
Well at least that makes me feel better. I assumed I just never noticed it.
It's a shame because on a technical level it's worked dramatically better than the competition for me.
but where the hell are the games? Where is the communication? How they ended up half arsing this without a significant first or second party lineup is beyond me. They nailed the hard part and the easy part is a disaster. They really needed to at least come at this with an EGS level of money ready to fund ports and exclusives.
but where the hell are the games? Where is the communication? How they ended up half arsing this without a significant first or second party lineup is beyond me. They nailed the hard part and the easy part is a disaster. They really needed to at least come at this with an EGS level of money ready to fund ports and exclusives.
Well I enjoy the tech.. the lack of input lag for me is amazing.. they just added 20 phones today including mine. It will be a good compliment to my XSX.
I understand its fun to shit on something most people here have never tried and Google has earned most of this but holy shit as someone who has used it and enjoyed it and received 8 free games since launch I think many you here are just piling on. But whatever... Us who use the service will head back to the OT. This thread went about as well as expected.
I understand its fun to shit on something most people here have never tried and Google has earned most of this but holy shit as someone who has used it and enjoyed it and received 8 free games since launch I think many you here are just piling on. But whatever... Us who use the service will head back to the OT. This thread went about as well as expected.
Maybe the community will migrate over to the nvidia community. Google stadia just cant work with data caps and other issues which nvidia seemed to not have.
It's shit on because it's a bad service. I've had tons of issues with destiny on it and even better load times couldn't convince me to play on it long term. Not to mention it's not worth subscribing with what they offer
I regularly forget that Stadia exists. It took, what, 3 months after it launched for it to get more titles? And these aren't even rentable, you purchase these to play off a server. It boggles my mind. I don't see this making it to the end of the year.
I'm a founder but I think cross-progression would make Stadia a much more enticing service. At the moment I would have to commit to playing Stadia games at home where it's the worst way to experience those games, just for the sake of having those games be mobile (well, eventually since still no iOS support). If cross progression was more pervasive then I could use Stadia when remote and get the better local experience when home.
But maybe I'm better off just waiting for XCloud for that.
But maybe I'm better off just waiting for XCloud for that.
Apple tends to commit to a product/service for a long time until it starts selling well, Google usually dumps the project and moves to another thing.
GeForce Now and xCloud look cool. When I first heard about Stadia, I'd have been surprised if it worked out.
The odd thing in reading this is how hard Google tried to push Stadia as a replacement for home consoles in their godawful TV and YouTube ads.
I use it mainly for Destiny 2 stuff and it's been solid for me.
Of course I jump over on PS4/PC when my friends are on but it's been pretty good. Most of the time I'm playing on PC with a PS4 controller. Honestly, it needs some sort of cross-play and with GeForce Now being pretty good [and gives me access to my friends on Steam] I might just shift platforms.
Of course I jump over on PS4/PC when my friends are on but it's been pretty good. Most of the time I'm playing on PC with a PS4 controller. Honestly, it needs some sort of cross-play and with GeForce Now being pretty good [and gives me access to my friends on Steam] I might just shift platforms.
It was meant sarcastically. Very real and obvious concerns and red flags were dismissed as pessimism by defenders before launch.
I'm the same. If I'm playing Destiny 2 by myself I always choose the Stadia version. It has been great. If cross-play were available I would never touch the other versions.
But unlike Consoles Stadia takes no space, not even in our minds.
It's all about trade offs. Stadia has latency introduced to games, that can't go away. I'd be willing to deal with that if there's enough positives that it offsets that negative. Maybe I get to play the game at an incredible IQ with insane graphic settings that my local hardware can't reach. Or I gain the ability to play that game anywhere on any device. No load times.
But as it stands now, Stadia doesn't offer enough to me to offset the negatives. It looks worse than local hardware, even current gen consoles. It lacks features. Multiplayer games have nearly no players. It doesn't run on any of my mobile devices since I use Apple, so the entire portable selling point is moot for me.
For upsides, the load times are great and super fast, and I can play on my laptop if I'm willing to hardwire a controller and have wifi.
Maybe in the future the conclusion looks different, but for me it's a worse experience than running locally. 80% of my gaming time is done at home, and it's not worth having that 80% be worse for the sake of improving the 20%. If there was cross-progression and Stadia wasn't asking for me to have a worse experience on that 80%, then I'd happily use it more.
I remember people being salty when the consensus was concerned about whether google would actually support the machine beyond simply expecting Day 1 numbers to smash. These people were called trolls, dumbasses, unable to see the vision behind the product, etc.
Wonder how these stans feel now.
Wonder how these stans feel now.
It doesn't make sense for them to do a big ad rollout before the free launch.