Oh indeed. I do not support delisting stuff to make them exclusive. Just not a good look no matter what they say.
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Epic Games has acquired Rocket League developer Psyonix [Up: No Announced Plans to Stop Selling Rocket League on Steam] [Read Staff Post & Threadmark]
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Oh indeed. I do not support delisting stuff to make them exclusive. Just not a good look no matter what they say.
Problem is the competitive community's gripes with Fortnite arent so much to do with the core gameplay but rather how epic is handling it. They push out major game changing features a day before big tournaments with no option to roll back. They lock down competitive gaming to certain resolution/equipment. There is no option to remove some of the more (when it comes to competitive gaming) egregious changes in the game for tournament level play etc etc.
This is all easily fixable (or in the worst case scenario easily transferable to Rocket League) but no one at Epic seems to care. Which is weird cause they have put up an insane amount of money for prize pool. Its a really good example of how just throwing money at something wont fix it.
Right? Peak "Fuck You, Got mine" from some people defending this shit.
Given the fact that Sweeney said he'd stop paying for exclusives and put Epic's games on Steam if Valve would match their 88% cut for devs/pubs, I'd say he's definitely making moves to target them specifically.
As long as they leave Nintendo alone, I know I will always have a place to run to once Epic finishes fucking up PC gaming.
What's the problem? Most people on here seemed fine with Microsoft buying developers up. How's this any different?
Congrats to Psyonix all the same. Good result for them for sure.
Congrats to Psyonix all the same. Good result for them for sure.
What, can Steam and EGS not crossplay? Confused at what the point of this Tweet is.
Then why are you wasting your time in a thread about something you don't care about? That's messed up.
There's no reason or indication it can't. The guy Tweeting it was probably trying to be funny.
Firewatch isn't a GaaS, multiplayer game with significant MAUs and a decent e-sport following.
From Psyonix statements, they plan to aggressively boost the game's esports presence. Making it exclusive to EGS to reap any potential benefits seems like a shrewd business decision on Epic's part.
I know what the real end game is.
Epic wants to cut off Valve's revenue. But that's just the start.
I bet you all of Epic's money that they want to flat out get to Valve and buy them and make new Half Life or Team Fortress games. I mean, could you imagine?
Epic wants to cut off Valve's revenue. But that's just the start.
I bet you all of Epic's money that they want to flat out get to Valve and buy them and make new Half Life or Team Fortress games. I mean, could you imagine?
I think consoles will be untouched. Different audience. They seem to be directly targeting Steam.
Nah, I'm honestly not interested in supporting Epic directly in any fashion at this point. Obviously I won't stop buying Unreal Engine games, though.
read the thread and you will find that your exact question has been answered multiple times already.
I'm guessing some of the anti-Chinese sentiment is because Tencent owns a large share of Epic Games (still not a majority though). Any big company in China is in cahoots with the Chinese government. Some of the backlash may be racism against Chinese people, but some are probably concerned about Epic being just a few steps removed from the Chinese government.
I've calmed down a bit. I have over 3k hours on this game and It's an all time favorite and probably means more to me than a game should. I'm gonna list some positives I hope can come from it.
Epic has a much better Crossplatform system than Rocket League ID. Better crossplatform support with voice chat etc and hopefully being linked with Epic account means crossplatform account merging which is something we have all wanted for a long time.
The game won't change much from a PC gamer perspective. All the systems are already run by Psyonix. Trading is done in game, servers are not run by Steam and it makes use of the marketplace.
Better Support. They do a great job on their own but it could always be better and Fortnite sets the high bar here.
Throw money at Esports. Rocket League is a phenomenal Esport that has been growing steadily but it's time for Prime Time. I know for a fact Epic is gonna go crazy on this end and solidy this game as one of the top esports in gaming.
Free to play. I know a lot of people don't want this but I always have to capture and even bigger audience and I'm not sure selling it on Epic store would bring in more people than going the Fortnite route.
No More lootboxes? This is a hope but Epic doesn't use them in fortnite and Rocket league already has a very good Rocket pass system and now an esports shop where you can just buy skins directly. Hopefully the game can rid itself of lootboxes.
This hit me like a punch in the gut. I am NOT a fan of the Epic launcher but I used it long enough for Fortnite and have always been a fan of how they have handled that game as a service.
Epic has a much better Crossplatform system than Rocket League ID. Better crossplatform support with voice chat etc and hopefully being linked with Epic account means crossplatform account merging which is something we have all wanted for a long time.
The game won't change much from a PC gamer perspective. All the systems are already run by Psyonix. Trading is done in game, servers are not run by Steam and it makes use of the marketplace.
Better Support. They do a great job on their own but it could always be better and Fortnite sets the high bar here.
Throw money at Esports. Rocket League is a phenomenal Esport that has been growing steadily but it's time for Prime Time. I know for a fact Epic is gonna go crazy on this end and solidy this game as one of the top esports in gaming.
Free to play. I know a lot of people don't want this but I always have to capture and even bigger audience and I'm not sure selling it on Epic store would bring in more people than going the Fortnite route.
No More lootboxes? This is a hope but Epic doesn't use them in fortnite and Rocket league already has a very good Rocket pass system and now an esports shop where you can just buy skins directly. Hopefully the game can rid itself of lootboxes.
This hit me like a punch in the gut. I am NOT a fan of the Epic launcher but I used it long enough for Fortnite and have always been a fan of how they have handled that game as a service.
Right. Sucks for PS4 players that they can't buy Hellblade anymore and that The Outer Worlds won't release on PS4
wait...
Really?? All I see from nin fans is that they are thankful not having achievement system and they can play through the game without worrying about silly virtual trophies.
read the thread
or like just give it twenty seconds of genuine thought
Never got into Rocket League. As long as they remain relatively autonomous & Epic doesn't institute a culture of crunch like we've seen reported on for Fortnite then more power to the owners of Psyonix. I guess our future is Epic buying up anything that can gain them market share in the PC storefront space, including devs of popular games.
Non enthusiasts just want their game to work right the first time. They have no patience for the type of issues that enthusiasts already understand or can easily work their way through.
If this is done poorly even non-enthusiasts are going to grabbing their pitchforks. EGS is buggier than Steam at the moment, and It remains to be seen if Rocket League will continue to be updated on Steam or if friends on EGS and Steam can still play with each other.
There's been a lot of talk about it going F2P among the pro players, but not sure if that's just talk or something more.
What you call "anger and rage" I call consumers using the only real avenue available to them that can cause damage to a developer to show their disgust for their business practices.
You might not like it but the alternative is what Epic, the pubs and seemingly the devs want, which is making it so consumers no longer have a voice and they can get away with whatever they like!
Tim Sweeney is a liar, a hypocrite and is quite frankly on a personal mission to put steam out of business at this point, we are talking about a billionaire using his wealth to benefit him and screw the consumers and remove choice and voice from them.
If people can't see why that's an issue then I really don't know what to say.
Errr...you should stop buying Unreal Engine games, because that's just as direct as buying Rocket League.
I don't really see a really great avenue for Valve to counter here to be honest, if they get down in the mud they don't really have the money to win this out
Or devs will stop moving over to EGS for a little extra cash up front when their sales drop off.
There's nothing Valve can do other than start doing the same shitty practices and why would I want that?
which countries isn't it available in? are there any in particular which seem super dumb not to be available in?
considering how much of steams purchases come from non-standard payment sources it seems absolutely fair that egs should be able to accept those payment sources too.
Valve seems uninterest in fighting an "Exclusive war" with Epic. Although it seems more and more necessary each day.
I don't understand how this benefits Psyonix? They were a small studio making tons of money (last I'd heard). That makes me think Epic threw so much money at them they couldn't refuse.
Anyway, I just hope this doesn't change Rocket League too much. It's easily my most played game of all time by a wide margin.
Anyway, I just hope this doesn't change Rocket League too much. It's easily my most played game of all time by a wide margin.
That Microsoft didn't retroactively remove Mojang and Obsidian's already released games like Minecraft and Pillars of Eternity from other platforms while Epic is going out of its way to remove Rocket League from Steam, for a start. That's a pretty key difference in how the two were handled.
Don't want any of those shithole countries squeaking in after all
For comparison's sake, you can still buy Mass Effect 1 and 2 on Steam even though EA has been selling their games on Origin for many years.
If there was any doubt before that Epic were looking to cut off Steam before, it's obvious now.
If there was any doubt before that Epic were looking to cut off Steam before, it's obvious now.
I see the opposite. The only place I see people bitching about achievements is this board. People here have a serious hate boner for achievements.
Epic's store and even its timeframe for implementing the most basic features is over a year - for features steam had when it launched - when I was on fucking dial up connection.
Are you seriously dumb enough to push the narative that today is 2003/2004, and there were plenty of examples tools and infrastructure for Valve compared to Epic now? And all that in consideration of Epic and its infrastructure now vs Valve in 2003/2004?!
Outright idiocy - especially noting many other stores have launched with better feature set, customer facing tools and implementation.
No... it's not? Epic does not own the studios who use their engine even if they receive a royalty from them.
Curious about this and I haven't done the research. Is RL2 confirmed? It'd be a major gaffe to launch a sequel to a strong-performing GaaS.
Epic: we are buying exclusivities, studios and everything basically.
Valve: Well... We have a VR 1k device with no games from us...
Valve: Well... We have a VR 1k device with no games from us...
I can't even be mad at this, because it's just so ridiculous I can only laugh. But still, fuck this. It's so stupid.
What, I remember seeing a thread that they confirmed games for the VR already? Or did I misread something. And it's not super long ago when they acquired Campo Santo.
