Yeah it would probably lump sums, I just mean I imagine that the lump sum would be equivalent to the percentages I was talking about.
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Epic Games Store tops $680 million in player spending and over 100 million users (free games promotion will continue through 2020)
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Control was specifically reported to be rumored to be a cash advance on sales.
All based on analyzing what was said during financial reports for Control's dev (and the fact other devs have said that's how it works, and Epic has said that's how it usually works.)
I'm aware they have other aspects to their deals, just saying that tweet suggesting they "paid $10 million for Control" isn't necessarily doing the math right there.
This is amazing. So many things we wouldn't have otherwise gotten if not for the EGS.
Console-exclusives like Detroit: Become Human and Journey on PC, dozens of free games, Half-Life: Alyx, new Steam UI, Game Pass, the Impossible Burger, record numbers for Tesla, Joe Burrow's incredible year. Just really awesome stuff all around.
EDIT: Forgot Billie Eilish doing the next Bond theme.
Console-exclusives like Detroit: Become Human and Journey on PC, dozens of free games, Half-Life: Alyx, new Steam UI, Game Pass, the Impossible Burger, record numbers for Tesla, Joe Burrow's incredible year. Just really awesome stuff all around.
EDIT: Forgot Billie Eilish doing the next Bond theme.
For now.
Tim Sweeney said that the store will open widely later this year, and that everyone will be able to sell their games on EGS (not shovelware).
I remember when they said they would do that last year!
Edit: There is also the problem of what constitutes shovelware.
They said same thing after they announced Store in 2018 and they never opened store to more developers.
It will always just be around the corner.
And no shovelware? *cough*Rune2*cough*
Well they are obviously terrible at planning the store features.
This is all based on them not having tooling to support developers; releases are still manual processes, etc.
I think we all can agree that they fucked up the expected roadmap.
I suspect it has more to do with the fact that despite spending all of last year talking about how bad steam's discoverability is, they have absolutely zero tools themselves and are relying entirely on having a smaller library to put the games they sign in front of the target audience.
Broken, rushed games aren't the same as shovelware. He didn't say that they won't have broken, unfun or otherwise terrible games.
We are not living in the best times. We could have had Hans Zimmer doing the Bond Theme, and Billie Eilish composing the score.
EGS giveth, EGS taketh
They literally said they wouldn't have "crappy" games
They also turned down Assault Android Cactus
That's this game :
Because the most important thing is denying games from Steam, not getting good games on their store.
Yikes. I know loss leading is a thing, but that only works if people end up spending enough on your store to make up for it. If their goal is to carve out a piece of the PC market they probably should've gone with the free games and discounts gimmick from the jump instead of pissing a bunch of people off with moneyhats.
Lol if you joke about shopping carts to Tim Sweeney on twitter he adds you to this list
You can claim the games without downloading the launcher. If your account is new, you can just get the currently free game (Sundered) for now, and future games.
Metro Exodus makes me sad... Epic paid for the units they didnt sell for the exclusivity, but still sub 1M is sad.
I'm not sad. The exclusivity for Metro Exodus still infuriates me to this day. Felt like I got stabbed in the back.
Probably did long term harm to the brand/series, too. Not only was the exclusivity bad, they handled the communication surround it really poorly.
The timing and communication was what made me never want to purchase the game. Also sealed the deal regarding my opinion or support for Epic.
I only recently got back into PC gaming. Had not used Steam since I bought Half Life 2 on it back when it launched. Even to a novice, the Steam platform is superior in every way. That said, still don't hate this. Moneyhatting Indies and allowing them to keep more money is good for Indies. Being selfish and caring about myself as a consumer means caring about these studios. Whether people like it or not, platform wars is building mindshare for devs as platforms fight over them. Moneyhatting small devs takes a lot of pressure off of them while in the development process. Now I just want to see Epic improve their store.
If their estimates are correct, Those Control sales are just shocking. Outer World is more understandable due to Game Pass.
But Control featured on a lot of GOTY lists and was heavily featured by many publications.
I'm glad we're getting more free games this year, and hopefully the store keeps getting better with updates. Right now it just does what its supposed to do; let you buy and play games, but it can definitely use some other improvements.
The Christmas coupons+sale was crazy, so I hope they do that again this year as well.
The Christmas coupons+sale was crazy, so I hope they do that again this year as well.
I spent $5 on Griftlands with that coupon because Klei promises a Steam key if you buy on EGS so that's fine with me. Other than that, I went from spending quite a bit on Fornite to $0 ever since EGS started buying exclusives. I'll continue taking their free games though for whatever it costs them.
I can only imagine we'll be talking about these crazy sales EGS is doing now like we talk about the days when Steam still had the crazy flash sales.
I think the numbers for Metro, and Control are normal. 700k is a lot, and Control wasn't selling great on console as well so it's likely a bad timing issue or just a game appeal/marketing thing.
Possibly more Ubi games;
Of the publishers thtat seem open to dealing with them:
-BigBen-Werewolf: The Apocalypse- Earthblood?
-Deep Silver- new Saints Row? The Iron Harvest devs confirmed they're sticking with Steam and GOG;
-2K- new BioShock? Private Division's "Darkborn" is gonna be on EGS only, but apparently the "Halo-but-with-hoverbikes" Disintegration won't be.
-WB- everything? I can totally see WB putting their next DC titles there.
-we have not seen any major Japanese pubs on EGS, but I could see Squeeenix taking the plunge with its Eidos studios, who are all doing Marvel stuff. Or that People Can Fly Gaas-y co-op shooter.
Ouch, those are some not great numbers there when they're broken down like that.
I shudder to think about how this has already been spun into a massive boon for PC gaming or anything at all really.
But hey, more free games! Keep 'em coming! I'll continue to not spend a single penny on the store.
I shudder to think about how this has already been spun into a massive boon for PC gaming or anything at all really.
But hey, more free games! Keep 'em coming! I'll continue to not spend a single penny on the store.
Most likely true that people bought the full price pack.
Halo MCC is a staggered release of 5 games. If you bought a month of GP every time a new game came out, you would pay $25 and you still wouldn't get to keep the game. Also GP will increase to $10 at some point so the price could be even higher. It's a much better deal for most people to just buy Halo so they don't have to keep paying a subscription, and possibly pay even more if MS decides to raise GP to its normal price soon.
You also need the Steam version if you want mods because Microsoft Store is doing its best to prevent you from modding games by locking the game folder away from you.
Yeah, he said that, and if you actually read the ENTIRE quote, he's referring to "porn games and bloatware" not games like Big Rigs.
Wow, only $30 million? Does that include all of those the exclusive payments?
It's impossible to say how much Epic has paid for the free game promos, exclusivity deals, and impromptu cases of FOMO (e.g. Fallen Order, whose EGS app was created the very same day EA announced its return to Steam), but that sum is almost certainly nine figures long at this point and only going to grow. Anybody who isn't big into Fortnite will have little to no reason to buy third-party games on EGS when Epic inevitably stops throwing bags of cash around willy-nilly, so you have to wonder if it'll ever be in the black sans Fortnite.
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I dunno why people keep saying that in every instance regarding RDR2's launch.
it wasn't exclusive and the Rockstar version is the one that everyone just bought because it was way more convenient.
Also they were offering 2 free games if you pre-ordered on their launcher.
Sweeney made up "co-exclusivity" to be able to say their games are exclusive when they aren't.
(Not actually kidding. This is real.)
Yeah, 60% over forecast is impressive.
251M dollars of revenue produced from 3rd party games and 30M of revenue for Epic is low af.
They either had a forecast that wasn't including a lot of exclusives they have or they had crazily low forecasts.
This is taking into account a really agressive strategy:
- Agressive paid discounts (which generated like 2.3 millions sales in their 2 biggest sales event, running for nearly 1 month each of them).
- Agressive paid exclusive (You can see their best selling games are big exclusives. Borderlands 3 might be responsible for nearly a 1/3 of the 3rd party revenue generated).
- Agressive free games campaign
- Agressive ad campaign (I wont go back on the lying campaign by team, the paid articles in some publications and the E3 PCGamer show).
And yet despite all of that, we get those numbers. And it doesnt look like for 2020, Epic can top their 2019 efforts.
Worse, a lot of games will stop being exclusives.