Damn for 10$ i bought Control and Detroit. Can't say no this because it had fucking fantastic regional prices for my so shitty country.
Quite a stretch there, Mr. FantasticThat, and that developers were at the center of their platform considering it has zero features for customers. It truly is "just a launcher" in comparison with Steam.
I guess this will put a strain on Epic's relationship with said developers who seemed to be barely aware of the sale and not really aware with the depths of its discount. At the very least, it makes Epic seem more concerned with building their own user base than, say, having a healthy relationship with the studios on-board with them. I mean, it's pretty amazing that a AAA game was sold for US$7 years before its release. I don't think the studio or publisher were very happy with it.
I can't say I'm all that sorry for them given how they have thrown the PC platform under the bus in signing with Epic. Seems like they deserve each other.
How is everyone getting these prices?I bought BL3 for $34.99 and Control for $13.99. That's the lowest I've ever prepurchased a game ij a digital store ever. 😎
Wait where is the evidence Epic is footing the entire bill? Granted I was on page 8 last night going to bed and only looking now it's page 19 so it may have been shown. From what I can see when going on the store the devs have put their games on discount and then on top of that Epic are offering a further $10 off, so some devs are actually losing money no? I did notice there are some who, like borderlands, are not discounting their game but due to the stipulance of above $14.99 or whatever it is Epic takes $10 off but most if not all the indie titles have dev discounts. That ain't good.
Different regions are priced lower to begin with so the sales make them low when epic says "we'll just take a flat 10 off"
Wait where is the evidence Epic is footing the entire bill? Granted I was on page 8 last night going to bed and only looking now it's page 19 so it may have been shown. From what I can see when going on the store the devs have put their games on discount and then on top of that Epic are offering a further $10 off, so some devs are actually losing money no? I did notice there are some who, like borderlands, are not discounting their game but due to the stipulance of above $14.99 or whatever it is Epic takes $10 off but most if not all the indie titles have dev discounts. That ain't good.
The 10$ bit is Epic footing the bill. Other discounts are at the choice of the devs.
It must be even more fun for backers of Phoenix Point, to not only see the game being pulled from Steam, but now also being sold for a discount to others before release. Epic stays classy.
What? If the game is $7.99 after the Epic $10 discount, the dev is getting 88% royalties on $17.99 which is $15.83. To earn the same on Steam the game would need to be priced at $22.61, which is nearly 3 times the price of the EGS sale price.Thank you, that's what I believed was the case. So realistically those who are choosing to take a discount hit to go low low to grab some sales are probably making what they'd get on Steam. I think the calculations were about a $10 difference if on Steam at 30% split. Intriguing, only because of Epic chipping in the $10 extra is it actually working though because otherwise why bother being locked away on a store if you have to put it on sale for what you'd get elsewhere.
Mind you this is based on AUD prices for my maths because looking at comparison titles the Steam game is $10 less.
Surprisingly they seem to be okay with this, no complaints on official forum at all.
It must be even more fun for backers of Phoenix Point, to not only see the game being pulled from Steam, but now also being sold for a discount to others before release. Epic stays classy.
The 10$ bit is Epic footing the bill. Other discounts are at the choice of the devs.
Pretty sure you cannot opt out of the sale (unless you momentarily leave the store), as the sale is even there for games that are not buyable right now in EGS:It's epic's fault the Phoenix Point developers went to them looking to be on the EGS and it's also their fault the Phoenix Point devs didnt opt out of the sale? It's genuinely laughable to see the lengths people will go to to shit on Epic.
Pretty sure you cannot opt out of the sale (unless you momentarily leave the store), as the sale is even there for games that are not buyable right now in EGS:
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/the-division-2/home
Getting mad at sales that cost the devs nothing is some real Galaxy Brain shitIt must be even more fun for backers of Phoenix Point, to not only see the game being pulled from Steam, but now also being sold for a discount to others before release. Epic stays classy.
I was disappointed when the Division 2 and Metro Exodus skipped a store I trust with my purchases but I'm happy to shop around for games generally so I was happy to check out the Epic Games Store given the steepness of these discounts. Now having had a little look though, I've got to say, even at these prices I'm not interested.
A single page for all items presented in a form over function tile based format, no user reviews, no curator reviews and last but not least, having to purchase individual items rather than adding all of them to a cart and making a single transaction is just so ridiculously archaic, so blatantly "we just had to cobble something together and ship it" that I don't have any trust in these people to manage my purchases properly.
I'll take a half finished game and watch the develop with interest but I sure as hell will not buy third party games from a half finished store!
Getting mad at sales that cost the devs nothing is some real Galaxy Brain shit
How? I'd love to get control for that price.I bought BL3 for $34.99 and Control for $13.99. That's the lowest I've ever prepurchased a game ij a digital store ever. 😎
People know what they're doing when they back a game.What he's getting at is backers shouldered so much risk to then see the devs sell out to Epic, and now see the game they paid full-price for being discounted at a fraction of what they paid.
Doesn't take a genius to see why they would have cause to be pissed.
Getting mad at sales that cost the devs nothing is some real Galaxy Brain shit
It's epic's fault the Phoenix Point developers went to them looking to be on the EGS and it's also their fault the Phoenix Point devs didnt opt out of the sale? It's genuinely laughable to see the lengths people will go to to shit on Epic.
Anyone know if the final season of the walking dead can read your save files for your choices even if I got all previous seasons on steam ? cause at 5 $, its very tempting .
The people who crowdfunded also got access to the game before release and could give feedback on development. That perk alone is enough aside from the gratification of helping in bringing something to life, what happens beyond that is not disrespectful or whatever as you say. The number of people who managed to get Phoenix point for $4-5 will number in a few thousand because not everyone is able to buy them at that price. And more importantly what would you say about the people who were able to buy the game for $15 pre sales and will do so post sales due to regional pricing? That's $15 lower than the kickstarter amount as well...Is that disrespectful as well?No, that's you not really understanding crowdfunding.
The devs asked people to help them make the game, and part with their money at that point, for a project that could go any way. They asked people to trust them, and support them.
Selling the game now for a cheaper price then a limited level in a crowdfunding campaign will be a thorn in the eye of people who did put their faith in them so long before the games release.
While this sale is something the devs did not start, they still shoulder a lot of responsibility for this. They were the ones who jumped on this Epic Store game exclusivity deal, they were not approached for it.
Having the opinion that crowdfunding is something that should be respected is not galaxy brain shit. It's really not.
It's Epic's fault for doing a sale that creates a situation like this, yes.
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It's Epic's fault for doing a sale that creates a situation like this, yes.
Alright, so you can speak for everyone yourself, when you're saying that that perk is enough?
The people who crowdfunded also got access to the game before release and could give feedback on development. That perk alone is enough, what happens beyond that is not disrespectful or whatever. When the people in the official forums themselves are not talking about it then it's something that's obviously not an issue to the very people you are speaking for.
So what would you say about the people who were able to buy the game for $15 pre sales and will do so post sales due to regional pricing? That's $10 lower than the minimum kickstarter amount to actually get the game...Is that disrespectful as well?Alright, so you can speak for everyone yourself, when you're saying that that perk is enough?
Since no one answered, i took the chance - for 5 $ is not that big of a risk . If anyone worried - the game read my local " new frontier" save and imported it with no issue .
With one episode down, it look like a great purchase already .
The 10$ bit is Epic footing the bill. Other discounts are at the choice of the devs.
But don't we have data from Steam sales that show that consumers buy the titles at an increased rate AFTER the sale due to word of mouth, increased twitch streams etc etc.
I recall very similar forecasts of gloom when Steam used to have some pretty amazing sales (which seem to have tapered off a bit over the last couple of years) and people were saying that Valve was training consumers to never buy a game when it wasn't deeply discounted.
Also, I really enjoy your posts, even though I generally disagree with you when it comes to Steam/EGS :)
Bollocks, it's on the dev's. They are also selling it at a price point they sold it at during their crowd funding campaign so your "But what about the backers" spiel doesn't hold much water.
I've gone in multiple EGS threads and defended their development priorities (or at least tried to rationalize them) but this is just fucking absurd.Pretty sure you cannot opt out of the sale (unless you momentarily leave the store), as the sale is even there for games that are not buyable right now in EGS:
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/the-division-2/home
It must be even more fun for backers of Phoenix Point, to not only see the game being pulled from Steam, but now also being sold for a discount to others before release. Epic stays classy.
...yikes.Pretty sure you cannot opt out of the sale (unless you momentarily leave the store), as the sale is even there for games that are not buyable right now in EGS:
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/the-division-2/home