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LordGorchnik

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4/21/19: Due to asking here is a beginners guide for new players.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/bfruq2/f2p_progression_guide_for_beginners_30_days_to/


One of the few mobages I have been looking forward too. Oh, and Matthew Mercer is voicing one (or more) of the characters in this for those of you who love the guy.

Link to press release

https://www.facebook.com/notes/epicseven/epic-seven-official-press-release/733413296998792/

Link to pre-registration page

https://epic7.smilegatemegaport.com/world/preregist?lang=en&fbclid=IwAR3tUGhEqFy2rzciAFfgOepFVpmbmGl1sOZ6NoGZ0n0S9v66EH6s0967eEQ

Discord server

https://discord.gg/CTetAqC

For those of you who love Valkyrie Profile like team formations, beautifully animated sprite work, amazing summons, character collecting mobages, and don't mind one of the worst (best) gachas ever. This game has your name written all over it.

What? The re-roll thing? Yes. Unlike other gacha games where you generally create an account, go through 1-2 tutorial stages and then pull is a little differently here. First of all, re-rolling is not available until you clear chapter 1 (10 stages). This takes about 15-30 minutes depending on play speed. Then, once completed the game gives you THIRTY, yes THIRTY 10-pull attempts (300 pulls total). After every attempt you can choose to keep the pull and end it there, or keep on. Once you find a 10-pull you like you keep it and that's that. If, after 30 pulls you don't get what you want the game data can actually be deleted INSIDE the app itself to allow you to quickly go through the process again.

So why did I say (worst) gacha? Honestly, just because outside the 300 pull start the rates are quite low. However, even 3* and 4* units are amazing in this game. In fact one of the top tier healers is currently a 3* unit that is quite easy to acquire.

Here are a few videos. First one is the global trailer. Second is a gameplay preview.

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One of the few mobages I have been looking forward too. Oh, and Matthew Mercer is voicing one (or more) of the characters in this for those of you who love the guy.

Link to press release

https://www.facebook.com/notes/epicseven/epic-seven-official-press-release/733413296998792/

Link to pre-registration page

https://epic7.smilegatemegaport.com/world/preregist?lang=en&fbclid=IwAR3tUGhEqFy2rzciAFfgOepFVpmbmGl1sOZ6NoGZ0n0S9v66EH6s0967eEQ

Discord server

https://discord.gg/CTetAqC

For those of you who love Valkyrie Profile like team formations, beautifully animated sprite work, amazing summons, character collecting mobages, and don't mind one of the worst (best) gachas ever. This game has your name written all over it.

What? The re-roll thing? Yes. Unlike other gacha games where you generally create an account, go through 1-2 tutorial stages and then pull is a little differently here. First of all, re-rolling is not available until you clear chapter 1 (10 stages). This takes about 15-30 minutes depending on play speed. Then, once completed the game gives you THIRTY, yes THIRTY 10-pull attempts (300 pulls total). After every attempt you can choose to keep the pull and end it there, or keep on. Once you find a 10-pull you like you keep it and that's that. If, after 30 pulls you don't get what you want the game data can actually be deleted INSIDE the app itself to allow you to quickly go through the process again.

So why did I say (worst) gacha? Honestly, just because outside the 300 pull start the rates are quite low. However, even 3* and 4* units are amazing in this game. In fact one of the top tier healers is currently a 3* unit that is quite easy to acquire.

Here are a few videos. First one is the global trailer. Second is a gameplay preview.

Re-roll me if this was already posted.
Re-rolling is for cowards!
 

gaiadyne

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Oct 25, 2017
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Some would say so. Given there are so many good units in the game though that is definitely why they probably give you 300 chances.
Even though I never re-roll in these games, I still appreciate that they give people who absolutely must have the highest ranked units the option. I'll probably try this game at least once but no recent gacha game has sticked for me
 
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I thought so as well until I actually started playing. For me its the 4 man battle formation a la Valkyrie Profile and the high quality animations that pulled me in.

Given that all the characters are good and can be used makes the game easier to play.
 

Booki

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Oct 25, 2017
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That second video won me over.

LordGorchnik I don't know how to feel about you bringing this to my attention. You're willingess to share information is awesome, but you're putting a third Gacha onto my phone.
 
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New Update:

Launch has been confirmed to be November 2018. Less than a month to go. Most likely will launch the week of Black Friday to get on that Gacha $$$ hype.

Hey, Heirs! We've got some very exciting news for you all today! Epic Seven will be launching globally NEXT MONTH! That's right, you'll be able to see all your favorite characters in English and Traditional Chinese very soon! Make sure you pre-register before it's too late! Everyone who pre-registers will receive some great rewards once the game is released. Pre-register now! https://goo.gl/HzSvyJ
Official website: https://goo.gl/kS2ALW

https://www.facebook.com/583835325289924/posts/hey-heirsweve-got-some-very-exciting-news-for-you-all-todayepic-seven-will-be-la/734419410231514/
 
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Pre registered a few days ago. Besides Sdorica Sunset I'm looking for a new gacha and this sounds cool. Super excited.
Sdorica is looking good as well. I am super excited for this one as the team looks like they are going to match/ramp up our client to go alongside the original KR version which is definitely good to see.
 

Einbroch

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This game looks absolutely incredible...but it's a Korean auto-battle gacha game. I just can't get excited because they all devolve into the same game. I hope to be proven wrong, but looking at impressions, gameplay videos, and so on...I'm not holding out hope.
 
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This game looks absolutely incredible...but it's a Korean auto-battle gacha game. I just can't get excited because they all devolve into the same game. I hope to be proven wrong, but looking at impressions, gameplay videos, and so on...I'm not holding out hope.
If you like character collectors you will enjoy this. There are 4 additional game modes as well to do along with story, PvP, Maze, Battle Tower, and one other that escapes me. You are not wrong though at the end of the day everything comes down to "Can you party beat X?" Never hurts to try but if you hate it, no time lost. Game is very friendly to those starting out.
 

aSqueakyLime

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Sdorica is looking good as well. I am super excited for this one as the team looks like they are going to match/ramp up our client to go alongside the original KR version which is definitely good to see.
Yeah for sure. FGO being 2 years behind always soured me on it back when I played, so it's nice to see other games actually try to close the gap.
 

MicH

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I have heard really good things about this so I'm very excited for the global release
 
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New update:

They are looking for people interested in Community Management. Rewards include $50 of in-game currency and more. You can apply on their facebook site.
 

Dee Dee

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Is this also launching in Europe? I know it says "globally", but I learned that this doesn't necessarily include Europe, coming from an Asian publisher.
 
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Standard "auto-battle, korean gacha games with PVP" concerns. Hey if they can keep the insane power creep under control, by all means, I'm in.
Nothing is generally considered OP in the KR version. PvP in gacha games will always be favored by whales. Given that they are controlled by AI though you can work that somewhat to your advantage. However, all the PvE content can be played and cleared easily without paying. While auto-battle is a thing if you do not pay attention you will miss random chests, power-ups, portals to other worlds to get powerful items, etc. There are also 4 other non-story related modes to keep you entertained.
 

Skyfireblaze

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I'll definitely check it out as it looks amazing but I doubt it will manage to pull me away from Dragalia Lost! :P Did anyone else get Vanillaware vibes?
 
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Friendly reminder that the game is so gorgeous it turns off HD mode by default so be sure to enable it if you decide to start playing.
 

Laiza

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It's got my attention.

Time will tell if it manages to hold it for more than a few weeks.
 

bigbaldwolf86

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Just so people know you can only pull at most one 5 star per 10 pull. This could be an artefact or a character so don't try rerolling for 2 5 stars
 

Castile

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Did some research, and I think I found the genki character I'm rolling for, but I also learned about a limited character that I really want. Don't know if I should start this weak, or wait and reroll later
 
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For battery-life reasons?
Yeah it starts in battery saver mode by default but its not a huge save. If youre charging or at home definitely keep HD mode on. Saver mode already looks great but HD mode is glorious.

Where can I see the characters I can reroll for
Why hello there Yari finally burn out on GBF? :)

https://pigheadgaming.com/all-heroes/

Its not ALL as it doesnt have the most recent two. Sez, Destina, and Ravi are the top 3 people go for.
 

Chrono

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I know Sez is supposedly the best re-roll choice, but he's a guy so...Ravi it is!

I go with my heart. Always.
 

Skyfireblaze

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Yeah it starts in battery saver mode by default but its not a huge save. If youre charging or at home definitely keep HD mode on. Saver mode already looks great but HD mode is glorious.



Why hello there Yari finally burn out on GBF? :)

https://pigheadgaming.com/all-heroes/

Its not ALL as it doesnt have the most recent two. Sez, Destina, and Ravi are the top 3 people go for.
Alright, thanks for the clarification! I really hope it wiill be fullscreen on an iPad like Dragalia and unlike FGO, HD mode on that display in fullscreen will be droolworthy. The only better thing I might have seen so far would be Muramasa on my OLED Vita. (I still only have a IPS PC monitor and a Samsung TV from 2012)

And thanks for the link too! How dependent is the game on having the "best" units vs. going for the units you actually like?
 

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Yeah it starts in battery saver mode by default but its not a huge save. If youre charging or at home definitely keep HD mode on. Saver mode already looks great but HD mode is glorious.



Why hello there Yari finally burn out on GBF? :)

https://pigheadgaming.com/all-heroes/

Its not ALL as it doesnt have the most recent two. Sez, Destina, and Ravi are the top 3 people go for.
yes, I hate GBF now. Thanks I like Destina and Ravi
 

Laiza

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And thanks for the link too! How dependent is the game on having the "best" units vs. going for the units you actually like?
From what I've seen, the game has frequent biweekly balance updates, and the difference between characters is not especially game-changing as a result, so rolling for love rather than power won't gimp you so hard (especially since 3*s and 4*s benefit more from being promoted than 5*s do).

That being said, there are some characters that are so completely OP that they're in a tier of their own - but the most notable one is locked behind a special gacha that requires a special currency that you can only get something like one roll a month, so not really worth considering. Just be aware that you most likely will not be competitive in PvP (not that anyone on RE actually cares about gacha PvP).
 

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Welp I didnt know I needed this till I saw it.
 
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2 days until launch. As Yu stated the game has over 1 million pre-registrations. We should be getting more info regarding actual time launch and launch incentives soon.

And thanks for the link too! How dependent is the game on having the "best" units vs. going for the units you actually like?
This is the designers philosophy

3-4* units = Great on their own
5* units = Amazing but only in certain setups

You can clear all the story and side SP content with 3-4* alone. Almost every unit in the game is actually good.

If you want to be top in PvP though be prepared to shell out massive amounts of $$$$.
 

Skyfireblaze

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From what I've seen, the game has frequent biweekly balance updates, and the difference between characters is not especially game-changing as a result, so rolling for love rather than power won't gimp you so hard (especially since 3*s and 4*s benefit more from being promoted than 5*s do).

That being said, there are some characters that are so completely OP that they're in a tier of their own - but the most notable one is locked behind a special gacha that requires a special currency that you can only get something like one roll a month, so not really worth considering. Just be aware that you most likely will not be competitive in PvP (not that anyone on RE actually cares about gacha PvP).
Okay thanks for the explanation, I'll see what units I want after the game launched and give myself an overview. Generally with new IPs I tend to be happy with the first 5* unit I get unless it's very bad gameplay-wise somehow. Sounds like this game has a few things to look out for but yeah I guess that kind of unit and rolls are mostly just for hardcore players.

That said the PvP sounds like a huge bummer. So there aren't any normalized stats in PvP like in Blade & Soul for example where stats are mostly equalized so it comes down to actual player skill and strategy? If so yeah, that seems like PvP wouldn't be enjoyable for the average player, I actually never played a gatcha game with PvP before.
 

Yu Narukami

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Okay thanks for the explanation, I'll see what units I want after the game launched and give myself an overview. Generally with new IPs I tend to be happy with the first 5* unit I get unless it's very bad gameplay-wise somehow. Sounds like this game has a few things to look out for but yeah I guess that kind of unit and rolls are mostly just for hardcore players.

That said the PvP sounds like a huge bummer. So there aren't any normalized stats in PvP like in Blade & Soul for example where stats are mostly equalized so it comes down to actual player skill and strategy? If so yeah, that seems like PvP wouldn't be enjoyable for the average player, I actually never played a gatcha game with PvP before.
I think PVP is AI based.
 
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No countdown as the specific time hasn't been released. I would join the discord linked above for any further updates. They post them as soon as they are seen.
 
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So, OP what are the best characters to pull?
Join the discord for all the relevant info and guides but as far as 5* go you want: Sez, Destina, or Ravi

You can only pull one 5* from the reroll gacha once completing 1-10 though. Do note that this games 3 and 4* are quite capable of finishing all story content just fine.

Game launches tomorrow!
 
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We have another official update, game launches on November 8th 0:00 UTC (So about 7.5 hours from now). Will update the front post.

Prepare your rerolling macros.