Epic Seven (Mobile/Mobage) |OT| 1.25% better than Dragalia Lost's Rates!

Alkez

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Oct 25, 2017
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Did the urgent mission rate get decreased? I haven't received one since the update and I've been farming catalysts a lot since then.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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I'd say it's normal. Did a bunch of fodder farming during the EXP boosts and got it a fair amount, as well as this morning. Just 3 more until I can get Commander Lorina.
 

Alkez

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd say it's normal. Did a bunch of fodder farming during the EXP boosts and got it a fair amount, as well as this morning. Just 3 more until I can get Commander Lorina.
How much is a bunch? Because I farmed 4-9 world 100 times over the weekend to get the cats for Yuna's connection and didn't get one, and farmed 2-9 about 65 times yesterday to kill enough machines.
 

Westlo

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Nov 4, 2017
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I haven’t received an urgent mission once since last patch...

My head says save but my heart says spend.

...I got Corvus last week. Corvus, man. I mean at least it wasn't Dark Corvus, but some things just ain't right.
You bugging

He’s a turn 2 team god and one of the best units to pair up with iseria
 
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Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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How much is a bunch? Because I farmed 4-9 world 100 times over the weekend to get the cats for Yuna's connection and didn't get one, and farmed 2-9 about 65 times yesterday to kill enough machines.
Around 3-4 hours of fodder/catalyst farming when the boost was active (2 hours at reset, 2 hours at 4pm EST). However, it has been odd since I've only been getting Urgent Missions in Chapter 1 of the new story despite fully completing Chapter 2.
 
Feb 9, 2019
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Gacha Hell
You bugging

He’s a turn 2 team god and one of the best units to pair up with iseria
For some reason most takes I'd read until yesterday had him as one to avoid. I'm usually not too quick to pass judgement but I don't have him and never saw him outside of PvE so I had no real reason to doubt it.

One more for the good natural five stars I don't own then.

As for urgent missions, I'm getting a lot of those on episode 2 content just farming for the Breaths of Orbis. Thought it would be a chore to get those 10 Proof of Courage for Khawazu but it ended up being pretty painless. Of course, I don't actually need them for Lorina anymore so it may be a desire sensor kind of thing.
 

psynergyadept

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Oct 26, 2017
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this game continues to troll yet reward me....today's mystic summon trolled me yet again by giving me my third Elbris Ritual Sword! Like I literally have all the mats to fully awaken and 6* Fallen Cece...

Noticed I was ten summons away from getting a golden transmat stone so sitting on some bookmarks to spareI did ten summons and got jacksquat but using the moonlight summon and got Arbiter Vildred....So a good day I guess!!!
 
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Mupod

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Oct 25, 2017
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his contunies to troll yet reward me....today's mystic summon trolled me yet again by getting my third Elbris Ritual sword! Like I literally have all the mats to fully awaken and 6* Fallen Cece...

notice I was ten summons away from getting a golden transmat stone so sitting on 5 I did ten summons and got jacksquat but using the moonlight summon and got Arbiter Vildred....So a good day I guess!!!
Arbiter Vildred is about to become a brain-dead automatic delete button for cleave teams that aren't running regular Vildred, so yeah. Get to work on that guy.
 

Alkez

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Oct 25, 2017
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Arbiter Vildred is about to become a brain-dead automatic delete button for cleave teams that aren't running regular Vildred, so yeah. Get to work on that guy.
It definitely does seem that way atm, but I guess it all comes down to how LIlibeth is going to counter revive and what the rest of her kit offers.
 

Silent

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Oct 27, 2017
516
Kinda thinking of saving my ML summons until they announce exactly what changes they’re going to make.

Today marks the second time the daily summon gave me a 5 star, but both times so far it was a dupe.
 

okita

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm saving my MLs (currently with 7 pulls saved) because I don't care about PVP and most units there are PVP oriented , but i doubt anything they do will be a big deal . There is always a caveat
 

galvenize

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Oct 25, 2017
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I told myself to save mystic and gold transmit stones for whenever ML charlotte will eventually be announced but the temptation to pull is too strong. I’m weak. I’m mentally preparing myself months in advance to whale (for the first time might I say) for her and not getting anything. Havent had a 5* star ML character and Im playing since November. Then again I own all the 4* ones.
 

Snormy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I told myself to save mystic and gold transmit stones for whenever ML charlotte will eventually be announced but the temptation to pull is too strong. I’m weak. I’m mentally preparing myself months in advance to whale (for the first time might I say) for her and not getting anything. Havent had a 5* star ML character and Im playing since November. Then again I own all the 4* ones.
I don't have any ML 5* either. Feels bad. 😿
 

Alkez

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Oct 25, 2017
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I did not realise that if you have two copies of the same hero and one of them dies in Guild Wars you can use the other copy. It's a big investment to work on the same hero twice though.
 

Ennsa

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Oct 25, 2017
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Last time I do my guild wars run first thing in the morning. I was fighting a team I knew i could win against, but because I was half asleep I misclicked and started off the battle with an S1 on the wrong unit. Because of that, 2 of my units got wiped and the remaining one bled to death. Both of my top dps units were on that team.
 

SliceSabre

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Oct 25, 2017
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Finally got Kluri to level 50 and then I saw the requirements for specialist change.


Man what I thought was going to be a short journey looks like it'll be a fucking slough.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Finally got Kluri to level 50 and then I saw the requirements for specialist change.


Man what I thought was going to be a short journey looks like it'll be a fucking slough.
Kluri takes a bit, but its not bad, since you walk away with 10 wolves prepped for promotion to 5* to work towards 6* promotion.

Lorina is the truly painful specialty change.
 

Ennsa

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tamarine summon eludes me yet again. Got another idols cheer instead.

All my luck went to my regular summons. Got Tywin and Rin, and had more bookmarks than usual so I decided to keep rolling for a bit. Got another Luluca and my 2nd Bellona
 

Booki

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Oct 25, 2017
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Brooklyn
The planned updates/character buffs has me considering saving up my bookmarks for the eventual Sigret banner. It’s gonna be *great* when I don’t use her in my teams. 🤔
 

Alkez

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Oct 25, 2017
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I really want Crescent Moon Rin but mystics are useless as always. It's kind of dumb that I have a higher chance of getting her from the normal ML pool than I do from the mystic pool.
 

Ayato_Kanzaki

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Nov 22, 2017
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Stared rolling for Tywin with 920 BM, got him with 615 still left. This is not too bad.

Now if I could have the same luck wih crafting... 850 claws used in crafting boots, and not a single usable piece...
 

Chopchop

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tried pulling for Fallen Cece and anything good from that pool, and got nothing of note.

Two Carrots lol.

On the plus side, I finally cleared W11 manually. Don't think I can auto because Angie is still just barely surviving as tank+healer. Maybe once her and Dizzy's gear are better.

Cleared a few more abyss floors and got enough tokens for another ML summon. Got Crimson Armin, who I assume is good because she's a pain to fight in guild wars.
 
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animus82

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Nov 1, 2017
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Abyss 90 complete! Monty ended up being better than my Angi for keeping debuffs cleared. Dizzy couldn't survive sub 50% so I had to stop being stubborn and swap up her gear bit trading out her crit% neck and attack% ring for hp%. Apparently going from 7k to 11k hp does a lot for living, who knew?

HMMM. I can field the same team but my Luna didn't have enough DPS to kill aither or Ras during the second phase. can you give me the stats on your Luna?
 

Rokuren

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Oct 25, 2017
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HMMM. I can field the same team but my Luna didn't have enough DPS to kill aither or Ras during the second phase. can you give me the stats on your Luna?
Sure, I've included the team since CR manipulations also from Dizzy/Tama also influence it a fair bit. The only difference in the screens versus the fight itself was that Dizzy had Etica's instead of Tagehel's.


For molagora's
Luna: 5/3/4
Dizzy: 0/3/3
Monty: 0/0/0
Tama: 0/4/1
 

Alkez

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not going to lie, I'm starting to feel the affects of the numerous amounts of rng in this game. The covenant summon has rates the same as FGOs, but without the guaranteed 4*. The mystic summon rates are even worse. And the real rng is trying to get usable gear. It's just beginning to feel frustrating. I can't even finish Lorina's SC because I haven't had an urgent missions in over 400 quests...

Maybe I should take a few days off.
I'm back from exile and brought someone with me

Do you have C Armin? Cause if so enjoy those defence wins lol. Either way welcome back :) FGO thread was a bit quieter without you and HA around.
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
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Got a 5* on my single mystic summon today, unfortunately it ended up being an artifact and a dupe Idols Cheer, but hey it's a great artifact so at least I can limit break it
 

Westlo

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Nov 4, 2017
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Maid Chloe will be my next 6 star, really nice change though I would like to see a buff to S1 and S2 eventually.

Even if Lilbeth is oppressive to people who can revive, there's no certainty she's actually good on defense and/or when handled by AI and you can always just dodge her in arena anyway. I think she'll just be a character who is subbed in for someone when you see Ruele or A.Vildred etc.... but depends on the rest of her kit.

I like the Corvus changes, seems like he'll be great with a counter set now.
 

lt519

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tried pulling for Fallen Cece and anything good from that pool, and got nothing of note.

Two Carrots lol.

On the plus side, I finally cleared W11 manually. Don't think I can auto because Angie is still just barely surviving as tank+healer. Maybe once her and Dizzy's gear are better.

Cleared a few more abyss floors and got enough tokens for another ML summon. Got Crimson Armin, who I assume is good because she's a pain to fight in guild wars.
Nice Crimson Armin is a fantastic unit for PvP and PvE and congrats on the W11 clear that’s a big milestone. What artifact do you have on Angie?
 

Neki

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Oct 25, 2017
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What ERA guilds do we have left? The only one I still know that exists is EpicReset which is basically a Ken fanclub at this point. Owzers
 

Chopchop

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nice Crimson Armin is a fantastic unit for PvP and PvE and congrats on the W11 clear that’s a big milestone. What artifact do you have on Angie?
Angie's using a prophetic candle as you suggested. She was using rod of amyrillis before, but I think she can do without it as long as I upgrade her healing spells with more molas.

Right now in W11 she slowly falls behind on healing herself and survives just long enough to hit shield phase. Then she gets a chance to heal back up. I only just barely crack the shield each time with Arky's help.

I'm using Taranor Guard for defense breaking because it takes less maintenance than Karin's break, which I assume makes him more auto-friendly later on. He's at 88% effectiveness and seemingly still only lands a successful break three or four times per run lol.

I'm also using Alexa as the dps for now, because I heard she's easier to gear for W11 than Karin, which it turns out she is. I just threw on the tier 71 abyss gear, upgraded them to +6 or so, and sent her off. I'll probably go back to Karin later since I want to 6* her, but that also means I'll need to regear TG since Karin is faster.
 
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Mupod

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Oct 25, 2017
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I finally got my first mystic summon 5* yesterday, Fallen Cecilia. One roll too - I'd saved up 250 for the Tamarinne rotation and just used the rest because I felt bad about it. I don't know what I did to end up with 6 ML 5* but even if the team makes no sense I'm totally putting them all as my GW defense.

Speaking of which, several of mine are getting buffed and they released dev notes for that today.

Maid Chloe - the english translation of this is sketchy but it sounds like they're giving her S3 a full team revive on top of what it already does. This is what I thought she did when they first showed her and I was terrified of facing the character. But when I found out it just gives a revive buff she seemed underwhelming. And nowadays with ML Baal/Iela Dizzy in every team she's become pretty useless in pvp. But a full team revive is scary - wonder how the AI will use it.

Judge Kise - Slightly increased the proc rate on her S3 and gave her a dispel on S2, plus S2 has a 20 soul burn exta turn. Smart buff and needed to make her relevant in a world where immunity sets and team immunity buffs are everywhere. She used to be insanely dominant but I can't remember the last time I used her, yet now if I can come up with a good mage to pair her with (for Tagehel's ancient book) she could become my opener again. Her S2 was super lame and boring before too. This won't do anything for her on defense but oh well. She was never that good on a defense team other than scaring off people like me who don't have immunity stuff.

They showed off Arbiter Vildred's changes before and I already mentioned that I think they went overboard. I wonder if this is a hint for how powerful Lilibeth's anti-revive will be, if they're thinking they needed to go this far.
 

lt519

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Oct 25, 2017
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Angie's using a prophetic candle as you suggested. She was using rod of amyrillis before, but I think she can do without it as long as I upgrade her healing spells with more molas.

Right now in W11 she slowly falls behind on healing herself and survives just long enough to hit shield phase. Then she gets a chance to heal back up. I only just barely crack the shield each time with Arky's help.

I'm using Taranor Guard for defense breaking because it takes less maintenance than Karin's break, which I assume makes him more auto-friendly later on. He's at 88% effectiveness and seemingly still only lands a successful break three or four times per run lol.

I'm also using Alexa as the dps for now, because I heard she's easier to gear for W11 than Karin, which it turns out she is, since I just threw on the tier 71 abyss gear, upgraded them to +6 or so, and sent her off. I'll probably go back to Karin later since I want to 6* her, but that also means I'll need to regear TG since Karin is faster.
Yeah, that's basically how I started out until I could get Angie a little more beefy on the HP side, then it becomes easier to auto. Even if Auto if Dizzy misses with her S3 she might get wiped by the time shield phase rolls around but I can survive long enough without her in the next damage phase to finish Wyvern off.

I use TG as well, he's worth the Mola investment in S1 to get the Def Break proc chance up (three skill-ups). Don't forget to turn off his Skill Use when you go to Auto 11, you only want him using S1. Also remember when he dual attacks he provides a CR boost to the team so Unity Gear is also an option for him. If you time Dizzy right to use her S3 in the shield phase you might actually be able to withstand taking the blow (depending on your teams gear) and save Arky for more burn down. Needs to be fast to get it back up though, mines at like 222 speed.

The other option for Angie is Water's Origin, which takes some tweaking of her HP. Basically she'll revive a little and CR boost when she gets hit if each hit is 20% more than her HP. That might not be the case when Dizzy's S3 is debuffing Wyvern but when not debuffed it may provide some more sustain.

One thing that made my clears faster/more consistent was swapping Luna's hodgepodge set of gear out for a Rage set. So keep an eye out for that once you start raiding. Since TG/Dizzy are constantly applying debuffs she absolutely shreds and Alexa could similarly benefit.
 
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Rokuren

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Oct 25, 2017
548
Not going to lie, I'm starting to feel the affects of the numerous amounts of rng in this game. The covenant summon has rates the same as FGOs, but without the guaranteed 4*. The mystic summon rates are even worse. And the real rng is trying to get usable gear. It's just beginning to feel frustrating. I can't even finish Lorina's SC because I haven't had an urgent missions in over 400 quests...

Maybe I should take a few days off.

Do you have C Armin? Cause if so enjoy those defence wins lol. Either way welcome back :) FGO thread was a bit quieter without you and HA around.
Yeah, there's a lot of RNG involved in the game, I feel like I'd go mad if I tried to force anything. Most of my energy is spent just farming out 6*s since that's a goal with measurable progress; and it's been a while since spammed hunts outside of the GM buffs, even then it's with an eye on hey lots of gold.
 

Alkez

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Oct 25, 2017
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They showed off Arbiter Vildred's changes before and I already mentioned that I think they went overboard. I wonder if this is a hint for how powerful Lilibeth's anti-revive will be, if they're thinking they needed to go this far.
Completely agree with this assessment. My question is how available will she be? Will she be limited so that most of us have a chance to get her?
Thanks for posting. Judge Waifu and Maid changes look really nice.