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cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
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Anyone still using AxeGod ? I wann 6* ML Ravi nur it's hard to justify her when AxeGod has a much better kit....I could actually max Mola him as well.

Other issue is I already have regular Ken - any place or need for AxeGod as a bruiser already owning Ken and Ravi ?
 

commish

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Pretty sure that's exactly what I said lol. He is a very utility based unit and in scenarios in which he's good, he is optimal. He's basically a support version of Lilibet.

There's a reason I decided to use him in that fight and that's a top 5 guild (Big Band). I'm not comparing him to Lilias or anything, because clearly they're leaning towards making MLs being those specialist characters and the generic good chars be limited elemental units.

I guess I was taking issue with the him being good comment. You could have used nearly anything to kill that team. It did no damage. I agree that, in very specific circumstances he can be useful, but most of the time, he is not. Lilibet is far better than him and is much more than just extinction. She does great single target DPS with her s3, her s2 also does crazy damage and bleed, and her s1 still hits hard and has a 50% chance to buff block. All I want for DJ is increased utility after turn 1. His heals are pathetic. Hell, give him a Diene type barrier on his s2 and I'm happy.
 

psynergyadept

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Oct 26, 2017
15,643
I am convinced eff res has an unduly high chance, its ruined too many potentially good pieces of gear for me to believe otherwise

THIS!! every time a get I good piece of gear with eff res. I'm always scared to level it up....8/10 times it all goes to eff. res!!! SG knows this shit is going on and should patch it.
 

Laiza

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Oct 25, 2017
2,171
So Charles gets a 35% chance to proc S2, 70% against a buffed enemy with this EE?

For the record, that's a 2.5x multiplier (before accounting for the increase in damage on his S2 depending on number of buffs). A multiplier higher than most single target damage S3s in the entire game. The only ones with a higher multiplier are universally soulburn-only, and he just does that much damage randomly. Yes, his attack stat is lower, but so what? Shit is ridonk. His proc rate went up 40% (from 50% -> 70%) against buffed enemies. Tell me that doesn't raise some red flags in your head.

I guess this is just par for the course nowadays. Too bad the rest of the cast doesn't get this kind of treatment, eh?
 

h0tp0ck3t

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,758
Holy shit I just got rocked in arena without even taking a turn lmao
Judith cr push
Yuna attack buff
Bellona defense break
Vildred kills everyone
 

Chopchop

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Oct 25, 2017
14,171
Eff res has its place in bruiser/tanky teams. When two tanky teams are slapping each other endlessly, it's usually status effects that make the difference, so having some or all units have high res can give you the edge.

Holy shit I just got rocked in arena without even taking a turn lmao
Judith cr push
Yuna attack buff
Bellona defense break
Vildred kills everyone
Yeeeep, cleaves can hurt like hell. As you climb in arena, it's important to not challenge teams that look like they'll lead with fast CR pushers unless you think you can out speed them.
 

h0tp0ck3t

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Oct 27, 2017
2,758
Eff res has its place in bruiser/tanky teams. When two tanky teams are slapping each other endlessly, it's usually status effects that make the difference, so having some or all units have high res can give you the edge.


Yeeeep, cleaves can hurt like hell. As you climb in arena, it's important to not challenge teams that look like they'll lead with fast CR pushers unless you think you can out speed them.

Yeah Judith took me by surprise
Add her to the list of "fuck Roozid, Rose/S. Rose, CDominel teams" lol
 

Einbroch

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Oct 25, 2017
18,000
Game is incredibly stale at the moment. I'm gonna take a break and just do dailies and just let my energy overflow. Other games are coming out and I don't got time or patience to spam run stages over and over with no progress.
 

Alkez

Knights of Favonius World Tour '21
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Oct 25, 2017
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Tell me that doesn't raise some red flags in your head.

I guess this is just par for the course nowadays. Too bad the rest of the cast doesn't get this kind of treatment, eh?
Yeah. I raised this issue when they first revealed exclusive equipment but people were dismissive. It was an inevitable outcome but I didn't expect it so soon.
 

Ennsa

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Oct 25, 2017
623
Getting really annoyed how hard it is to get destruction gear from banshee.

On a related note, any recommendations for counter set? So far I only have Ravi on mind.
 

Chopchop

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Oct 25, 2017
14,171
Getting really annoyed how hard it is to get destruction gear from banshee.

On a related note, any recommendations for counter set? So far I only have Ravi on mind.
Dizzy with Abyssal + counter set is a thing in upper challenger. It screws up many cleave setups.

Charles
F.Maya
Destina with S1 EE
 

Ennsa

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Oct 25, 2017
623
Dizzy with Abyssal + counter set is a thing in upper challenger. It screws up many cleave setups.

Charles
F.Maya
Destina with S1 EE
Dizzy is someone I'd definitely need to experiment with. I've built her speed, but she gets outpaced by half of the other Dizzys with the remaining half of the time their Dizzys follow mine so I'd need to bring someone like A Coli to ensure my cleavers can do something.
 

Pelicano

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Oct 25, 2017
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I guess I was taking issue with the him being good comment. You could have used nearly anything to kill that team. It did no damage. I agree that, in very specific circumstances he can be useful, but most of the time, he is not. Lilibet is far better than him and is much more than just extinction. She does great single target DPS with her s3, her s2 also does crazy damage and bleed, and her s1 still hits hard and has a 50% chance to buff block. All I want for DJ is increased utility after turn 1. His heals are pathetic. Hell, give him a Diene type barrier on his s2 and I'm happy.
Oh yeah, he's not OP or anything, just that aoe cleanse / immunity is something only momo can do and it requires 2 souls. When it comes in handy, it's super handy. So he counters basars and double debuff comps nicely.

But yeah I'm mola'ing his s2 for not terrible heals. Around 2k a person depending on the target, which isn't awful. But he has not burst heal, so he pairs well with ML Ravi/ML Ceci and other sustain-y characters that get pretty crippled when debuffed.

also yeah that comp sucked lol, but a good place to use ML Basar! Alternatively could've used like destina / Angelica or something, but there would've been a shields down moment later down the line and immediately at the start since my ang is way faster than counter destina and the 2 turn immunity is short when paired with a super long destina s3.
 

Magneto

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
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Just been disconnected ONE SECOND before clicking on the portal for exiting the raid.
 

commish

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Oct 26, 2017
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Game is incredibly stale at the moment. I'm gonna take a break and just do dailies and just let my energy overflow. Other games are coming out and I don't got time or patience to spam run stages over and over with no progress.

No gacha works as the only game you play, so I'm with you there. I started Attack On titan tactics the other day and surprisingly love it.
 

Chainshada

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good news for me since I started after the last limited banner, apparently Luna is coming back for the Halloween event if the Datamining is correct, but there's also a Cecilia banner found..
 

Chrono

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Oct 25, 2017
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Cecilia will likely be week one, with Luna being week two. I can't wait, as I've been wanting her for a while.
 

commish

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I wonder if Luna returns for Halloween, will Diene return for the holidays? I use both daily still.
 

Numberfox

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Aug 5, 2018
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I'll pull for a Limited. I got Cecilia from a daily summon a while ago and she's been rotting in my extra box since I don't really have a use for her personally.
 

Mupod

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Oct 25, 2017
5,880
It's funny how gimped I felt not having Diene for a long time, but I've got that role pretty well covered now. I don't even know if I'd roll to pity on her, I'd certainly try at least a few.

Really want to know who the next Mystic hero is, unless it's Dark Corvus (good chance of this) I might just cave and get ML Basar. I absolutely have some plans to use him but I already have plenty of Soul Weavers. All of them except Diene and him, actually.

I don't think the Tywin equipment will have a major effect for me, I suppose he'll get a second def break more reliably on Wyvern if I get the cooldown one. I am planning on putting together an arena offense team with him but that's a ways off.

Now the Blaze Dingo EE with a debuff cleanse is absolutely perfect for my raid team. I'm glad I recently put that squad together because they clear 3-4x faster than my old one, funny to think that if I were to try to continue using the old team I'd just get disconnected. Now I've got immunity with high uptime (Etica's on fast Vivian), full team cleanse (Lilias) and now some reliable occasional debuff clear. Only weakness of the team is the only def break is on ML Ken, long cooldown and low effectiveness means it's rare. But I have extremely high uptime on attack buffs and everyone hits like a truck (including the healer). And 40 morale! I hope they work out when they finish off Hell Raid and expand regular labyrinth.

I wonder if next week will be free unequip, I know they said last week of the month but they could go either way. Would be nice.
 

Alkez

Knights of Favonius World Tour '21
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Oct 25, 2017
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I remembered people talking about Halloween Luna, so I predicted she would be in the next epic pass as opposed to bring a separate unit. Makes sense they would rerun her if so.
 

OhmygoditsJROD

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just wanted the muscle girl.
 

Rokuren

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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So next banners are likely Ceci and then Luna? I guess that frees me up to 6* other people.

BBK has gear and is 5* awakened. I'll promote and mola her any day now. I actually had a random moment yesterday where I deeply considered going with Blue Karin instead. I'm totally not going to move that gear c.merc and start on blue Karin or anything.

It looks like they changed the CP calculation? I now have multiple over 100k with Cermia at 124k. Higher numbers are fun I guess.

Molas maybe? I think my higher molaed characters increased the most.
 

Chopchop

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Oct 25, 2017
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So next banners are likely Ceci and then Luna? I guess that frees me up to 6* other people.

BBK has gear and is 5* awakened. I'll promote and mola her any day now. I actually had a random moment yesterday where I deeply considered going with Blue Karin instead. I'm totally not going to move that gear c.merc and start on blue Karin or anything.

It looks like they changed the CP calculation? I now have multiple over 100k with Cermia at 124k. Higher numbers are fun I guess.

Molas maybe? I think my higher molaed characters increased the most.
I noticed the CP boost too. My arena team went up by like 80k.

I like Ceci, but I dunno if I want to swing the bookmarks for her when I don't even have a role she can fill. Same goes for Luna.

What do Heirs use Luna for?
Luna scares me in PvP because she can single target nuke so hard. I pretty much always bring Dizzy if I see an enemy Luna.
 

Ennsa

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Oct 25, 2017
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My Sol and Baiken were really close in CP at around 97k each. Now Baiken is at 120k and Sol at 115k. I think my other biggest jump was Dizzy and Fire Ken from 65k to 85k from all their high hp% gear.
 

Dandy Crocodile

Community Resetter
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Oct 25, 2017
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I caved and pulled a little and got Sez in 7 pulls so I'm pretty dang happy with that. Glad I can have him AND the character on the limited rerun banner.
 

Ducarmel

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,363
I dont have sez and dont really want him tbh but decided to pull enough to get the last last gold transmit stone I need for an ml pull, did not get him but I got 2 of the new 3*, none are Lena so I dont care.

Got Rikoris with the ML pull he is new and I guess his SC gives me something to do this week and I will have done all of them.


CP now takes artifacts/skill/awakening into the equation my BBK took back her top spot after regular Karin took it from her when I improved her gear. My Lorina jumped Sol I always thought she was my better DPS never understood how he was higher than her in my hero list.
 
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PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
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Oct 25, 2017
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I've had Sez since launch and he used to be my main unit. Did they buff him or anything with this new banner? I think I remember hearing he was nerfed a while back but I never saw in what way?
 

Ducarmel

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've had Sez since launch and he used to be my main unit. Did they buff him or anything with this new banner? I think I remember hearing he was nerfed a while back but I never saw in what way?
Nah just a filler before they drop something big, I think it was wind rider artifact that got nerfed which pretty much destroyed his usefulness as a cleave unit in pvp.
 

Blackflag

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,968
Casually spending 65 bookmarks to try for the new 3 stars and got my most wanted unit (Iseria) and a Charlotte dupe. Today was a good day
 

Ducarmel

Member
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm trying to decide if I should pull for Cecelia or wait for her ML.
She deserved an EE instead of Charles, HP buff and some self defense buff would make her just as good as any other knight.

I think you will be waiting a while for ML Cece to come back to mystic summon.
 
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Foxmine

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Aug 21, 2019
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I actually didn't have enough summons for Luna at the time, pulled like 83 times. Now I'll finally have her if it's true! Hopefully I can get her in less than 121 incase theres another unit the week after her. I'm sure we will get a lot of free summons during the 3 weeks anyways!
I'm not worried!
...just a little...
 

psynergyadept

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Oct 26, 2017
15,643
Looks like I can save up after Vildred broke the bank and had to pull out my wallet for the last 10 pulls. Already have Sez and Luna, and have Fallen Ceci and Lilias so regular Ceci can be skipped.
 

commish

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Someone's Hurado was faster than my A lots, who is sitting at 251 speed. And had full speed imprints from Cidd and W Schuri. That's 271 speed. Crazy.
 

Chopchop

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Oct 25, 2017
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Someone's Hurado was faster than my A lots, who is sitting at 251 speed. And had full speed imprints from Cidd and W Schuri. That's 271 speed. Crazy.
I'm always amazed when someone gives some random character so much love that they start outspeeding meta fight opening units. It's starting to happen so often that I've begun to avoid attacking comps with odd characters because when someone builds a comp around someone weird, you know that player has stacked the hell out of them.
 
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