Damn, I have 240 powder, and I want Sigurd's Scythe, R&L and Celestine...
I'll need to somehow reach abyss 90, I guess...
I'll need to somehow reach abyss 90, I guess...
I personally don't use FKluri for raid, or have her 6 stared. I only really use her for Golem. Keep in mind I don't do Hell Raid and am saving my tokens for when they fix drops there. So grain of salt if you do.So he fills that role better than Fluri with her team heal spread out over her lightning speed? Would 6* him over Fluri make a difference in abyss/raid progress? I know Fluri is a key element to all that and I don't want to go with Haste just because I don't have that niche style unit yet.
Nerfing a 5* limited hero is tough. I absolutely agree that she should be nerfed. I have her, use her in a ton of content, and yes, she needs nerfed. I want her nerfed. I want variety in the units I choose and see.
But there would be rioting if they nerfed a limited hero. I think the correct approach is what they're doing: implementing heroes to counter her.
Nerfing a 5* limited hero is tough. I absolutely agree that she should be nerfed. I have her, use her in a ton of content, and yes, she needs nerfed. I want her nerfed. I want variety in the units I choose and see.
But there would be rioting if they nerfed a limited hero. I think the correct approach is what they're doing: implementing heroes to counter her.
Come on, man. Come on. You can't be serious. Really. You can't.
How obnoxious. It's possible to disagree without coming across like a dick.
I don't know how to break it to you but I am, looking forward to your response, I suppose you'll upgrade to ROFL? Tama and Diene are more useful than her in PvE and ML Ken is better than her in PvP (Judge Kise is up there as well). She's certainly top five but it's an exaggeration to say she's the best character in the game.
I think it's that her kit had the built in R&L (which doesn't really make sense) and that caused this RNG factor to battles that people tend to not like. Same way people don't like Assassin Cart turning the battle into an RNG slug fest.
They are 5* or 5* limited.Oh I understand why she got nerfed. I don't really have a problem with that. I just thought that with Tama and Diene in the running it was arguable that she was literally the best character in the game.
They are 5* or 5* limited.
F.Kluri has made the knight class irrelevant as a 3* specialty change hero .
When I saw people not rolling on Charles because they have F.Kluri, I knew her fate was sealed.
You are comparing units. You need to compare them by role.
This is true.
They are 5* or 5* limited.
F.Kluri has made the knight class irrelevant as a 3* specialty change hero .
When I saw people not rolling on Charles because they have F.Kluri, I knew her fate was sealed.
You are comparing units. You need to compare them by role.
Just one hero nerfed is bizarre to be honest. I don't understand why the concept of nerfing a limited character is so crazy either. That they are shouldn't make them untouchable.
For better or worse (I'd say its probably the latter) most gacha games sell their limited characters on their potency as much as their general appeal. If they set a precedent by nerfing Diene then it might give people pause about going all in on future limited characters.
This is actually untrue.Does it matter? We have already determined that they must be making more money off regular banners since the pull never is guaranteed. If that wasn't the case, limited banners would - with a high likelyhood - be a much more frequent occurence. That aside, I don't honestly think a nerf to this character would curb whales' spending habits either.
Charles is a gawd, I kinda randomly got him but he was my second six star and the only character I've gone in on with molas......
Really looking forward to putting Elbris on him next month (I'll wait until the end of the month incase I summon it before it leaves the shop.
Anyway while watching Kgaming's E7 stream right now.... I was grinding out to 950 sky shards so I can buy the 50bookmarks+3 penguins deal, had a ML pull ready to go after I finished with them.... first 9 pulls were really, really bad (though I might have another SSS unit, haven't checked)... after that though.....
This is actually untrue.
Luna made them the most money of any banner in the history of the game.
I've been wondering about that, but what is the reason gacha games have these announcements for when people pull 5 star items? Is it to increase the chances of someone raging and pulling out their wallets and rage summoning?
Oh, it's definitely a combination of both.That's true, I forgot about Luna. But did people really pull for her for her combat prowess or her outrageously sexualized design? Diene's banner wasn't nearly as successful, was it?
Just one hero nerfed is bizarre to be honest. I don't understand why the concept of nerfing a limited character is so crazy either. That they are shouldn't make them untouchable.
Oh, it's definitely a combination of both.
I think Diene wasn't pulled because it was really early in the game (a large chunk of the playerbase at least in the Discord came around after Diene) and she's "boring". Also, there was a lot of chatter around her being really weak (which is hilarious) from Reddit.
The tits helped, there's no doubt, but I've heard a lot of stories of people saying "Eh, I can drop $50 to reach pity because I know I'll get her" whereas people would never drop $50 for a 10% chance to pull a unit without a guarantee. I think there are a good amount of people out there who want to spend but won't because there's no pity and the rates are pretty poor.
They probably one day will release their banner again , a nerf might mean they will gain less money from it because the character becomes less desirable. All people who doesn't have Diene will go hard on her banner for example.
I would like to know when I said otherwise.Agree with Uthred.
Classes in this game only exist so they can funnel artifacts to certain classes. Tons of knights aren't meant to be tanks, and look at characters like Violet. A thief who should be the tank. And while most soul weavers are healers or support units, you have units like ML Aither and ML Dingo who, while heal, are damage dealers. And so on.
Only look at classes to see how the sync with artifacts. Anything beyond that is kinda pointless.
Charles is a pretty good green dpser when it's all said and done.
It would be interesting if we had some proper insight into the amounts of cash generated per banner.
Iirc, they said that limited heroes would not return after their first (and only) banner.
Nope , there is an * Saying they might sell the hero on the same form or other way in the future on Luna banner , Diene's one I don't remember. But certainly they won't leave money on the table
That is strange, because I remember them making a statement 'not to worry' about them devaluing their rarity.
Posted the link for reference above, devalue rarity is quite subjective, I don't think re releasing a banner once in a year or two , devalues it. It is still inaccessible for the most part, making it a rare chance to get them
Sorry, I just have a really bad experience with fights that absolutely require a buff dispeller + def break that I could have very easily cleared had I used F. Kluri (but I don't), so it's really, really hard for me to see her in the same light as anyone who uses her. There are so many fights where she'll turn it into a cakewalk simply by being there, and on top of that, she is also ubiquitous in arena in an obnoxiously visible way, and there are so many fights where she won the day all on her own (thanks in no small part to her bullshit built-in R&L - thank goodness that's been nerfed).How obnoxious. It's possible to disagree without coming across like a dick.
I don't know how to break it to you but I am, looking forward to your response, I suppose you'll upgrade to ROFL? Tama and Diene are more useful than her in PvE and ML Ken is better than her in PvP (Judge Kise is up there as well). She's certainly top five but it's an exaggeration to say she's the best character in the game.
Edit: Well thats what I get for responding while reading, guess with the balance change info out its a moot point. Glad to see R&L finally getting added to the shop. Those awakening changes though are fairly underwhelming. I do sort of wish they added the option to recall any nerfed unit.
If you don't have Bellona, he can fulfill nearly the same role, so maybe? Depends on how badly you need an AoE def breaker on your team.Ya'll think Tywin will be worth building for a C.Dom team after the buff?
Kluri nerf was inevitable and better than I thought. Didn't really think Diene would get hit. All the buffs are great. Love seeing buffs. I don't really use any of the units that got buffed but good to see. Didn't get new hero but then pulled AssCart and ML Dingo when I rage pulled with my saved ML. My Ludwig and Violet sat up and took notice.
Dingo and Aramintha are in Moonlight based on the in-game rates breakout.ML Dingo is in the Moon Light pool now? I thought he was exclusive to the Mystic until Mystic rotation?
I don't think it contradicts anything. Offering the hero again in the future does not necessarily equate to the rarity being devalued. For other heroes, there are many ways to get them. You can get them in off banner summons, covenant summon, from 4-5* tickets, and potentially through events in the future. For limited units, you can only ever get them through the limited banner. If they offer another limited banner with the same unit next year, it will still be rare.I agree with you, so I am all for them doing a rerelease every so often. It's just that this contradicts what they said before is all. But perhaps they just changed their mind.
I don't think it contradicts anything. Offering the hero again in the future does not necessarily equate to the rarity being devalued. For other heroes, there are many ways to get them. You can get them in off banner summons, covenant summon, from 4-5* tickets, and potentially through events in the future. For limited units, you can only ever get them through the limited banner. If they offer another limited banner with the same unit next year, it will still be rare.
And honestly, Diene and Luna are arguably the least rare 5* characters in the game, literally everyone has one (except of course the people who started late)
Kluri nerf was inevitable and better than I thought. Didn't really think Diene would get hit. All the buffs are great. Love seeing buffs. I don't really use any of the units that got buffed but good to see. Didn't get new hero but then pulled AssCart and ML Dingo when I rage pulled with my saved ML. My Ludwig and Violet sat up and took notice.
ML Dingo is in the Moon Light pool now? I thought he was exclusive to the Mystic until Mystic rotation?
This must have been mistranslated because they appear in the pool as soon as they are available in the Mystic Pool.ML Dingo is in the Moon Light pool now? I thought he was exclusive to the Mystic until Mystic rotation?
Yep. I roll on potential. And with Charles' multipliers, I saw immediate potential. Dude will be broken in a few gear refreshes.
I don't really give a damn about waifus.
They should definitely re-run old banners, there will be people that started the game late, or took breaks, that want a better chance at someone like a Bellona than the 5* rate pool affords. I think it would bring in more money for them too. I'd love to have a chance at Diene or Bellona and unless they re-run those I'll definitely never see Diene and my odds at a Bellona are abysmal.
I have a question about SSS. Not sure if its started yet but if you take an SSS unit and feed it to one that is not the new unit becomes SSS too right?
If so does this count towards the mission of making SSS characters or does it count specifically for the unit? Like getting Jecht to SSS only counts once even if you make a second SSS Jecht?