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Epic Store DAU, New Users per Day and Daily Revenue for the first 9 months
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These are some good insights to finally see what's going on behind the stage of our beloved industry.
Thank you! I hate having to load up Twitter to look at all these pics across these threads.
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We got some sales numbers for some Ubisoft games as well.
To put things into perspective Anno had 25K concurrent players on Steam and it was removed for purchase before game launched.
Division 2 sold....115k copies? Anno ~32000?
Ubi laughing all the way to the bank with Uplay sales + Epic money.
Ubi laughing all the way to the bank with Uplay sales + Epic money.
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Because they started giving games each week instead of every 2 weeks. And additional jumps due to better giveaways. Important graph is Daily Revenue that says a lot.
I don't know where they stand today, but under 2M by the end of 2019 sounds... fairly low. It's not even the CCU, it's the DAU.
What's the time period for this? Is it current, or the first month, or what?We got some sales numbers for some Ubisoft games as well.
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This lawsuit revealing industry practices and what was typically reserved only for insiders is such a treat. Not that I want more lawsuits, but I wouldn't mind this level of insight occurring more frequently.
they got themself in the worst possible position
The store have users only with free games, coupon and exclusives, almost zero retention
If they remove it, the store will die, if they don't remove this promotions they will lose more money
In both case they will have an hard time to wash off all those bad PR they earned
The store have users only with free games, coupon and exclusives, almost zero retention
If they remove it, the store will die, if they don't remove this promotions they will lose more money
In both case they will have an hard time to wash off all those bad PR they earned
These numbers don't really justify Epic's moneyhat policy. Almost all exclusives sold badly and the only big spike, Borderlands 3, still ended up with Epic barely making any profit. It seems that giveaways work much better in attracting new users and driving daily active user growth.
Nah, that checks out. Arkham Knight launched in such a sorry state on PC that Warner Bros. pulled it off Steam and offered refunds to anyone who played it while they fixed it (Which I think was unheard of at the time?*). I can see a whole lot of people who either got their refund and never went back or were scared off from trying it at the jump that ended up forgetting about it until EGS offered it for free.
Edit: Steam incorporated its refund policy a few weeks before Arkham Knight came out. WB just auto-approved refunds regardless of Steam's two-hour playtime policy.
The giveaways are just life support as you can see how it falls down after.
So other than free games and brief spurts due to exclusives, there's no real movement. Curious to see the traction Kingdom Hearts had. Can't imagine that it lead to any real retention.
One of the biggest indie games around.
They did 2M sales across all platforms before the giveaway.
pretty bad
The game start at preorder without discounts, the day before the launch they put a 10% off discount and a 1 month free sub of disney+, from yesterday they now give 3 months of disney +
Did Epic make any profit at all? I'm seeing them say BL3 made roughly 82 million, but it cost over 140 million for that exclusivity deal.
LOL.
Doesn't help that the games were cracked day one, so the anti-EGS people just played them all anyway.
Seriously ridiculous. There's at least one person in ubisoft whose job seems to be getting less people to play their games.
So basically nothing is working. It's all free games, some heavily discounted games with coupons and a few big titles acquired at very high cost for very little movement one way or another.
Tim Epic is going to be tilting at Steam's windmills with that Fortnite money though. Well, unless he loses his Apple case and then pisses off Sony and MS by airing some dirty laundry.
Tim Epic is going to be tilting at Steam's windmills with that Fortnite money though. Well, unless he loses his Apple case and then pisses off Sony and MS by airing some dirty laundry.
Nope, they took a bath on it. They made like $7 million over the money they paid for guaranteed sales and such but they indeed paid over $140 million in total including the Handsome Collection and Civilization giveaways.
All the bulk of sales are probably on Uplay, I doubt the overall numbers is as good as if their games released on Steam, but in the end, Epic is paying Ubisoft so Ubisoft can make money and Valve don't. The only ones getting hurt on all this is the people who got their coice of where to buy removed tho', since Ubisoft stop selling keys everywhere not only Steam.
80M of that 140 was a baseline guarantee on Borderlands 3, which was covered easily by sales of the game. So it was more like $60M.
Peanuts!
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I still don't know what a Slime Rancher is, we use the metric system here.
At this point in annos life yeah I'm sure most of it's on uplay, but at launch? I might bet that the steam share was very large. There's a reason ea came back. If this strategy worked they'd all be doing it.
Yes I agree with this.
Well also epic is getting hurt because they're getting robbed by ubisoft. Who would choose egs over uplay given the choice? Ubisoft is just laughing their way to the bank and epic seems fine just flushing money down the toilet.
I still don't get how epic can convince themselves they come out on top in any way whatsoever in that situation.