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Update 05--06-2020 (06-05-2020):
Twitch: ban, Twitter: everything erased, YT: no more monetization, Facebook: Gone.

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Update 03-06-2020 (or 06-03-2020) They are now using the name: "Not-Playstation Mil Grau" and searching for old tweets that could proof that others did the same things they did.

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September 28, Daylight...
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(From December 20, 2018 to June 3, 2020)

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Editing: Just to clarify things, it wasn't me, this guy is a journalist and sent an email to phil
His twitter:

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2020
New attacks, now harassing women
Remember that this clown and his followers are still out there, harassing people because they enjoy a game that isn't on the Xbox platform.

And he thinks it's funny.

So don't forget to report him on twitter and youtube for harassment.

jokes about dropping bombs in Japan


2018
Update 2: the lawsuit they lost
For those who speak Portuguese, here is the judge's decision about "witcher 3" The Witness, Firewatch, Street Fighter V, No Man's Sky, What Remains of Edith Finch, HellBlade as Ps4 exclusives. It's a show or horrors.

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AlIF-3Tdb-Lm91jsuAM_fqbsHf7c?e=rroNTb
Update 1: more exemples thanks to Gbraga
Just a couple of examples of the kind of trash he posts:

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This is a famous brazilian trans man.

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This is Pabllo Vittar, a brazilian drag who is currently one of the most successful singers in the country.

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This one is self explanatory, I think.

The politician in question is Marielle Franco:
Marielle Franco (Portuguese pronunciation: [maɾiˈɛli ˈfɾɐ̃ku], born Marielle Francisco da Silva; 27 July 1979[1] – 14 March 2018) was a Brazilian politician, feminist, and human rights activist
She served as a city councillor of the Municipal Chamber of Rio de Janeiro for the Socialism and Liberty Party (PSOL) from January 2017 until her death.

On 14 March 2018, while in a car after delivering a speech, Franco and her driver were shot multiple times[3] and killed by two[4] murderers in another vehicle, North in Rio de Janeiro[3]. Franco had been an outspoken critic of police brutality and extrajudicial killings,[5] as well as the February 2018 federal intervention by Brazilian president Michel Temer in the state of Rio de Janeiro which resulted in the deployment of the army in police operations


So here in Brazil there is a channel on youtube (with accounts on facebook, twitter, twitch ...) called Xbox Milgrau.

They have already received gifts from Microsoft such as an Xbox One X and paid travel to attend conferences.

This guy in the photo, Xcapim was mocked for trying to argue with Angry Joe, saying that AJ had an agenda against MS, while he himself had in his twitter account a photo kissing the floor (literally) of the MS conference.

UPDATE: it wasn't Witcher 3, the list they did wrong was: The Witness, Firewatch, Street Fighter V, No Man's Sky, What Remains of Edith Finch, HellBlade

For you to understand the kinde of person they are: recently they have lost a lawsuit for offending journalists and other employees of a news site. The justification given by them was that the site made a mistake and listed the witcher 3 The Witness, Firewatch, Street Fighter V, No Man's Sky, What Remains of Edith Finch, HellBlade as ps4 exclusives.

The judge said in the document that it was bizarre for an adult man to spend so much time defending a company, and that was PAINFUL to have to watch the videos presented as evidence.

The list of their misbehavior is extensive, dating back to 2010 when on Orkut they attacked people who praised Ps3 ((one of the things: they constantly did was jokes using pictures of relatives of these people). Latter they even joke about a child with a disability (In this case, a promotion took place in a group on facebook to give the child an Xbox, but as the owner of the group did not let them publish articles attacking Sony they started to attack and offended the child in question).
 
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sibarraz

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Oct 27, 2017
18,108
You should try to link these news to Phil Spencer twitter or Major Nelson
 

Chindogg

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Oct 25, 2017
7,241
East Lansing, MI
This guy sounds like an asshole, but is it ok to call on a forum to be a report mob? I'm totally cool with exposing this guy, but I feel like it's a bit weird to call everyone to action against someone no one really knows about
 

Naner

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Oct 27, 2017
3,018
Xbox Mil Grau is absolutely disgusting. Everyone who doesn't understand Portuguese should be thankful that you don't need to waste space in your brain with that shit.
 

Zedelima

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Oct 25, 2017
7,718
This guys are a disgrace, and not only for this jokes about mariele

Fuck them
 

Memento

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Oct 26, 2017
8,129
They are such a joke. They are now asking their fans to donate money so they can pay their lost lawsuit btw...
 

Bundy

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Oct 27, 2017
20,931
The politician in question is Marielle Franco:
Marielle Franco (Portuguese pronunciation: [maɾiˈɛli ˈfɾɐ̃ku], born Marielle Francisco da Silva; 27 July 1979[1] – 14 March 2018) was a Brazilian politician, feminist, and human rights activist
She served as a city councillor of the Municipal Chamber of Rio de Janeiro for the Socialism and Liberty Party (PSOL) from January 2017 until her death.

On 14 March 2018, while in a car after delivering a speech, Franco and her driver were shot multiple times[3] and killed by two[4] murderers in another vehicle, North in Rio de Janeiro[3]. Franco had been an outspoken critic of police brutality and extrajudicial killings,[5] as well as the February 2018 federal intervention by Brazilian president Michel Temer in the state of Rio de Janeiro which resulted in the deployment of the army in police operations







So here in Brazil there is a channel on youtube (with accounts on facebook, twitter, twitch ...) called Xbox Milgrau.

They have already received gifts from Microsoft such as an Xbox One X and paid travel to attend conferences.

This guy in the photo, Xcapim was mocked for trying to argue with Angry Joe, saying that AJ had an agenda against MS, while he himself had in his twitter account a photo kissing the floor (literally) of the MS conference.


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For you to understand the kinde of person they are: recently they have lost a lawsuit for offending journalists and general employees of a news site. The justification given by them was that the site made a mistake and listed the witcher 3 as an ps4 exclusive.

The judge said in the document that it was bizarre for an adult man to spend so much time defending a company, and that was PAINFUL to have to watch the videos presented as evidence.

The list of their misbehavior is extensive, dating back to 2010 when on Orkut they attacked people who praised Ps3 (making jokes using pictures of relatives of these people for example), even joke with a child with a disability (In this case, a promotion took place in a group on facebook to give the child an Xbox, but as the owner of the group did not let them publish articles attacking Sony they started to attack and offended the child in question).
Xbox Mil Grau again? I've read here that this racist dude made fun of Stan Lee's death because Spider-Man was a PS4 exclusive. And wished Kojima would die next because Death Stranding is a Sony game. This guys is well known for being a racist lunatic.
 

Bansai

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For you to understand the kinde of person they are: recently they have lost a lawsuit for offending journalists and general employees of a news site. The justification given by them was that the site made a mistake and listed the witcher 3 as an ps4 exclusive.

Lmao.

Glad to see Witcher 3 accidently contributed to that L, haha.

As for reporting, not sure how that would work, if you really wanna highlight this, I'd try tweeting at Phil/Nelson since they're pretty responsive and active on twitter.
 

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I will be glad to report this disgrace. But I can't stop thinking this is just the reflex of the "new Brazil" by the new president.
 

Begaria

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oh, yeah, that guy (and his fellow cult crew) are extremely toxic on twitter and youtube.
 
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For those who speak Portuguese, here is the judge's decision about "witcher 3" The Witness, Firewatch, Street Fighter V, No Man's Sky, What Remains of Edith Finch, HellBlade as Ps4 exclusives. It's a show or horrors.

Edit with new link:
 
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NSA

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Oct 27, 2017
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I would have to guess the language barrier helps to 'cover' some of the crap they post, though using translate, MOST of it doesn't seem too far off what 'normal' console trolls post on twitter (on all sides, really).
 

Memento

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Oct 26, 2017
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The worst of it is that they have a lot of fans. Speaks volume to how many gamers are alt right assholes.
 

Araujo

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Dec 5, 2017
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Just for some context...

Xbox Mil Grau is a sensationalist drama channel.

They essentialy thrive on console wars. Now mind you, he is not the only one and Brazil does not hold a monopoly on that. We have several Youtube channels dedicated to console wars and essentially mud slinging at each other. It's a small circle of big channels that publicaly seel themselves as "super fans" and "fair minded people" but they are only creating controversy because they know it sells .

This is important because it's not just Xbox Mil Grau, but also other channels like it.

They put on an act, they know it's an act, they don't care. They make money out of it. People eat it up. People buy into it, they pay up front to be riding the wave of modern console wars with these guys as their spokesperson.

You probably should note the fact that his bullshit is so far reaching that he now has an Rest ERA Thread about him. And now more people are aware of him.


Now, he was indeed sued by a couple of Journalists and Gaming sites on the basis of Difamation, he lost. He can appeal, but it's pretty much done. So far he was ordered to pay just about 20k USD to the claimant over the lawsuit.

So, what you have to understand is that calling on an international mob to be activist about it, is not fighting this guy. It's Empowering him.

No matter how much we fight back there will always be some pocket of the community that thrives and survives on flame wars bullshit. That does not goes away. What i've found that helps is to not engage and openly denounce whenever someone tries to engage with it for you. More than a few times i've had people come to me asking me to talk about some inept bullshit one of these morons have said, my reply was always the same "Why the fuck would i waste my time with this dumb bullshit?" and move on.

Mind you, this guy, Xbox mil Grau, is also on the forefront of a movement that went nowhere, where he was instigating people to demand the PSN Profile, Xbox page, Steam profile of any and all reviwers to be publicly open and attached to every single review they put up. The intent was to see if their gamescore or trophy list would match what their review said... if they were good at the game while reviweing it and if they had "beaten" the game they are reviewing... if you take it a t face value this might sound innocent enough, but if you think about it more than none at all... the sheer amount of stupid questions this raises is mindboggling as to why anybody would champion this.

Also of note, this movement was started after a harassment campaing instigated by him (although he never admitied) over a Female reviewer at IGN, claiming she didn't beat a game she reviewed since there was no trophy or her beating the game on her own personal PSN page.
 

Bundy

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Oct 27, 2017
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For those who speak Portuguese, here is the judge's decision about "witcher 3" as a Ps4 exclusive. It's a show or horrors.

https://campuen-my.sharepoint.com/:...tKqt3zlgSyUlIBCLg6fC3L_t11DneT-ih4KQ?e=b5H9yY
lol what happend there? The Witcher 3?
edit.
Now, he was indeed sued by a couple of Journalists and Gaming sites on the basis of Difamation, he lost. He can appeal, but it's pretty much done. So far he was ordered to pay just about 20k USD to the claimant over the lawsuit.
Well that's some positive news at least :D
 
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Xumbrega

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MS already ditched them AFAIK, they were on Mixer but Microsoft stopped giving them patronage and they are now back to Twitch.

But yeah, they are not a good look to our community here in Brazil
 

lucionm

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The worst of it is that they have a lot of fans. Speaks volume to how many gamers are alt right assholes.

Please. This has nothing to do with real politics and extremists from anywhere.

They are not political activists and would not even know to distinguish right from left, monarchy of theocracy, water of wine. It turns out that sometimes they apply terms of political vocabulary ONLY and ONLY by surfing on the wave of occasional popularity of themes.

They are no more than profiteers, social climbers on the internet, who will always "unmask" channels / people that give them visibility - appealing to a character who varies according to the winds.
 
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lol what happend there? The Witcher 3?
Sorry, it wasn't Witcher, my mistake, it was : The Witness, Firewatch, Street Fighter V, No Man's Sky, What Remains of Edith Finch, HellBlade

They told the judge that the intention of the youtube channel was to make jokes criticizing the errors of the media in general and the persecution against the Xbox. And that they, in their own words, criticized to correct information mistakenly disclosed by the news site, using such words as "corrupt", "thief", "sold" and "vagabond" in the form of "exacerbated outrage by the ill-done work ". They used many swear-word to offend the site's readers, the employees, among other things. The judge then considered that they should pay a fine for moral damages, and that attacks against the site exceeded the limit of freedom of speech.
 

Smurf

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Oct 25, 2017
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Damn, reading through his twitter, dude is awful. Also pushing some alt right politics along with his fanboyism, fuck him. Think it's important to try and get MS attention so this fucker doesn't get free stuff, conference passes and etc anymore..
 
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Lmao.

Glad to see Witcher 3 accidently contributed to that L, haha.
Just think about how it will be at the family reunion in the end of the year: "So yeah, I paid a R$ 50.000,00 fine because they did a bad list of Ps4 exclusives"

No matter how much we fight back there will always be some pocket of the community that thrives and survives on flame wars bullshit. That does not goes away.
I agree with you, but i believe that it is more important to show to the normal folks that good people are being attacked by theses assholes. Internet already showed us that this kind of shit will always get support, so we should gather together and help the victims
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The worst of it is that they have a lot of fans. Speaks volume to how many gamers are alt right assholes.
Hopefully, it comes to the attention of MS and they ditch any support on him

You should try to link these news to Phil Spencer twitter or Major Nelson
I will edit a message summarizing the text of this thread , but I don't have a twitter account :|
 

Mobyduck

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Oct 27, 2017
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Never heard of him, since I don't really watch national stuff. All I can say is that the dude is racist and homophobic, but wouldn't expect less from someone who is pro-Bolsonaro. He does like the attention that he gets for being a bigot and a douche.
 

Arthoneceron

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Oct 27, 2017
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Xbox Mil Grau é um insulto a absolutamente todo o legado do Xbox e os esforços que a empresa fez no Brasil - antes dela, os esforços sempre foram extremamente insípidos, muito graças à nulidade da Nintendo e a teimosia da Sony.

Eu pessoalmente já reportei o que esse maluco fez pelo review que ele escarneceu a IGN justamente pelo reviewer ser uma mulher. Pelo que eu andei lendo, ele colocou todo o acervo dele à venda pra pagar processo.

Eu só espero que essas páginas ao estilo Mil Grau sumam do mapa cedo ou tarde, porque além de espalharem merda e toxicidade pela fanbase, não trazem nenhum tipo de benefício, apenas espalham flamewar entre donos de consoles.
 

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Not surprised the slightiest he's actually defending his opinion and comparing it to the Bolsonaro stabbing attempt.
Just goes to show how gross my country can get. Uncultured people in particular like this guy somehow loves to take extremist sides at every subject ever as if life was a big soccer game and you're obliged to blindly cheer on everything.
 
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Pelo que eu andei lendo, ele colocou todo o acervo dele à venda pra pagar processo.
Oh, is it true ? I thought the followers would pay the bill...

The thing is, they get lots of mony doing this shit, so they will never stop unless they start losing money

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Not surprised the slightiest he's actually defending his opinion and comparing it to the Bolsonaro stabbing attempt.
Just goes to show how gross my country can get. Uncultured people in particular like this guy somehow loves to take extremist sides at every subject ever as if life was a big soccer game and you're obliged to blindly cheer on everything.
Dude just cant stop, my god
 
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I've been thinking about making a similar thread for a while, actually, glad you got to it. The amount of homophobic and transphobic trash they were posting around E3 just because of that trailer for The Last of Us Part II was disgusting.

I really hope Microsoft drops their support for his garbage.
 
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Just a couple of examples of the kind of trash he posts:

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This is a famous brazilian trans man.

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This is Pabllo Vittar, a brazilian drag who is currently one of the most successful singers in the country.

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This one is self explanatory, I think.
 

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Never heard of him, and curiosity got the best of me, fuck me I guess.


Now, back to do what I was doing before knowing all this shit.
 

Gamesadict

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I'm kind of lost in the flow of the thread, but do MS still send him stuff and support him? Try contacting Major Nelson or Spencer on twitter (or maybe other way, like email), make sure to be concise on what happened so they can understand it, and encourage them to disassociate from him, they have some relatively clear policies on how they deal with shit like this compared to many other tech companies.

Don't bother with Twitter and YouTube, those obviously won't do shit.
 
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Never heard of him, and curiosity got the best of me, fuck me I guess.


Now, back to do what I was doing before knowing all this shit.
Well, he warned you haha
Xbox Mil Grau is absolutely disgusting. Everyone who doesn't understand Portuguese should be thankful that you don't need to waste space in your brain with that shit.
Sometimes ignorance is truly a blessing.
I'm kind of lost in the flow of the thread, but do MS still send him stuff and support him? Try contacting Major Nelson or Spencer on twitter (or maybe other way, like email), make sure to be concise on what happened so they can understand it, and encourage them to disassociate from him, they have some relatively clear policies on how they deal with shit like this compared to many other tech companies.

Don't bother with Twitter and YouTube, those obviously won't do shit.
Thanks, I'm going to try
 

Bundy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Sorry, it wasn't Witcher, my mistake, it was : The Witness, Firewatch, Street Fighter V, No Man's Sky, What Remains of Edith Finch, HellBlade

They told the judge that the intention of the youtube channel was to make jokes criticizing the errors of the media in general and the persecution against the Xbox. And that they, in their own words, criticized to correct information mistakenly disclosed by the news site, using such words as "corrupt", "thief", "sold" and "vagabond" in the form of "exacerbated outrage by the ill-done work ". They used many swear-word to offend the site's readers, the employees, among other things. The judge then considered that they should pay a fine for moral damages, and that attacks against the site exceeded the limit of freedom of speech.
Mother of god... lmao. At least it had a happy ending and they have to pay.
 

IvanCarlos

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Nov 5, 2017
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I endorse Luigi's complaint. The "Xbox Mil Grau" community owners and its members are extremely toxic people and disclose their far-right political stances as if it were a position advocated by the community of players, especially Xbox fans.
 

PointBreak

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Oh, is it true ? I thought the followers would pay the bill...

The thing is, they get lots of mony doing this shit, so they will never stop unless they start losing money


Dude just cant stop, my god

The thing is, you're a Playstation fan and you're butthurt for the (mostly explicit) things he says on his channel.

In my opinion, this little guy and his friend, they're both two pieces of garbage, to not to use language here.

So, I ask you: are you bringing this matter here genuinely for the cause or are you just trying to get back at a channel that consistently mock you up?
 
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