I think these couple of posts I wrote from that locked thread are relevant to here and many future topics to improve discussion and discourse:
just as an fyi to some people here:
when someone from a minority group expresses anxiety over possible violence or bigotry against them and their loved ones and extended sympathies with their national/ethnic group, even if it has somewhat sloppy reasoning because they are indeed experiencing anxieties and the sources for it are actually pretty complex (historical sociopolitical tensions, racism, international disputes, ideological frameworks coming to a head), just shouting anti-whatever slogans like FUCK CHINA FREE HONG KONG is not useful to anyone but yourself and those like you who just want to feel a smug satisfaction that you are "one of the good guys".
Uhm, you can be sensitive about both things. You don't need to whataboutism or be dismissive about one thing to make the other thing "more real, more a priority". If the OP's concern is about experiencing bigotry, how sensical is it to scream about BUT THIS OTHER BAD THING HAPPENS. How does that address the injustice that is originally being talked about except to unintentionally come off like you are JUSTIFYING IT?
Some of you need to remove your zero-sum thinking from how you approach people on this topic. It's unnecessarily antagonisic to someone who has little if anything to do with your priority, and although maybe what you say has some kind of "good intent" behind it, it ultimately comes off insensitive or even racist to the person on the receiving end of your discourse.
And in case my beautiful literary stylings, profound prose, and run-on sentences are hard to parse, here I will try to explain again:
Sometimes it's easy to have an righteously indignant attitude and a wish to adopt bheviours or phrases to show you solidarity to people who are suffering. However, shouting slogans may not always be as helpful as you think to the discussion. It can feel like a bigoted and uncalled for attack on a person, especially one from a minority group, who in this example has ethnic ties to the nation you are criticizing the government of. Your good intention is not important if your actions and words are felt as racist, dismissive, and disempowering, especially if that person was trying to speak of their real experiences of discrimination and felt invisible in the first place.
So think twice and reflect on whether you are adding to the discussion in a relevant manner or if you are only making yourself feel good at the expense of another person.
Basically, this response is NOT actually helpful and it makes the responder seem overreactionary and primed to make attacks on any Chinese (or tangentially related) person regardless:
person 1: I have a Chinese background and I am anxious that there will be a rise in racist actions against people of asian descent who have little to do with what is going on politically in the world lately..
person 2: FUCK CHINA! BET YOU GAINED +200 SOCIAL CREDITS FOR THAT.
I don't want to see dizens of responses like that anymore. Low quality.
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Another asians not being a monolith fact: the many different asians have a lot of beef with one another, and asian-against-asian racism is also present. Nationalism is present. Classism is present. Colorism is present. Don't just assume solidarity exists among "asians". Things are complex economically, politically, and identity-wise!
And also.. NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT THE WEST.
One thing that particularly annoys me is when "the white woke" (or just general leftists I suppose), have this ethnocentric or western lens that everything in the world, good or bad but especially bad, was the result of Western Imperialism and Colonialism. Yes, the west does a lot of garbage everywhere, but also a lot of problems or cultural fixations have nothing specifcally or at least deeply to do with America, Western influence, or white supremism. Many societies are capable of producing their own problems and I don't necessarily want to read or hear the self-flagellation of white people for how their nations are the sole influence for everything and if they became enlightened enough, somehow the rest of the world would be magically thriving. Isn't that a little patronizing? Personally, it makes me cringe.
Related but lighter topics to this include: why are all anime characters white? why do asians try to look like white people?
maybe it ain't about white people
