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EU wants to react with new penalty tariffs on Xbox and other goods
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Won't happen as long as politicians use Apple products. Everything's fine until it hits their pockets.
Indeed.
Can politicians be banned for console warring? I refuse to pay taxes to an organization that intends to actively hurt my platform of choice.
The UK is still in the EU. That's what this whole Brexit mess is at the moment; our government cannot agree on any trade deals with Brussels, so until that is in place we can't leave otherwise it'd be an even bigger disaster than it already is. We have up until October to agree on deals or repeal Article 50 or we're leaving the EU with no trade deals in place and the UK economy will go up in flames.
War. War never changes.
so Putin is on the 'blue camp' as well? It's all a conspiracy!!! XD
maybe that's the point, Xbox doesn't sell that well here, so just tax that so European consumers are not too concerned. But who knows, policies are messy anyway and politics are generally useless.
If Phil really does put Xbox Game Pass on Switch, he will be an early front runner for the Nobel Peace Prize.
The EU have just signed a significant new trade deal with Japan. There's plenty of tariff-free gaming product to go around for EU citizens.
That deal does not include tariff-free gaming products at all.
I don't know why people associate trade deals with tariff free all the time.
Cheese and processed pork are tariff free or near tariff free.
Pretty sure that Trump would get off on that, economical consequences be damned.
Japan is constitutionally banned from having a traditional military.
Foreign policy is not all it takes to be right wing.
Well said and Japan been able to dominate console sales in the EU for the last 30 years. The EU always had it in for Microsoft with various actions over Windows. No doubt Google and Apple will be in the EU sites, to help make up the short fall of the UKs £70 billion. net contributions over a parliament
Isn't the Xbox brand quite strongly linked with first person and military shooters? The rights favourite genre.
Why do video games always have to suffer from politics as if they are the weakest shackles in everything from taxes, censors, etc...?
Yeah, it's ridiculous Xbox's name being mentioned, while other American companies like Apple don't.
It does feel like video-games are always the scapegoat.
Cinema and music medias are stronger than video games and they have strong defenders and they can't be touched so easily because they are older medias but also more important medias according to some which is not the case. I can guarantee you that people now play video games more than watching movies. Even in cinema, many video games are getting more and more adaptations. Video game domain should really get more respect and stronger defenders these days because it is no longer a toy as it was considered before but really one of the fundamental domains in media and one of the important arts too.
I really hope things will change when in the next Tokyo Olympics, e-sports will be part of the olympic sport games. This will make many people in the world make fun of this and consider this so futile, irrelevant and not worthy and should belong to the ancestral sports but when they realize that some young or normal which look veyr normal and not like famous sport celebirites can win medals for their countries, they will no longer mock up video games and longer consider them just toys or dangerous entertainments.
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go ahead. american tariffs and belligerent trade wars will be matched
not like anyone here has an xbox anyway. it'll just make that even harder for microsoft to correct with the new console...
I'd say that if you seriously, even for a minute, thought that it was a serious post, then yes your sarcasm detector has probably never existed in the first place
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🤦🏼♂️ omg lol
Good question. Microsoft also has European operations with European employees so how does that work?
Xbox gamers associated with the alt right? Show me the poll or data. One of the dumbest things I've heard.
It's hard to tell on here sometimes especially since I've seen similar sentiments stated unironically.
Because this question was asked: Custom law always tracks were the country of export is. This means if the Xbox is imported from China, this tariffs would not be applicable. For thos interested please help yourself with the UCC (union Cutoms Codex) articles 4, 134-150, 201, 158-195 and for our tarrifs article 56 UCC and the general duty database.
The accusation that Xbox gamers overall are associated with the alt-right is utterly ludicrous and has no evidence to back that statement up.
Extremists are on every platform, it isn't exclusive to Xbox, it isn't exclusive to Steam etc.
Do people think Playstation has no alt-righters on the platform?
I have literally seen Nazi signs and drawings when playing splatoon 2 on Nintendo, let's not kid ourselves that these morons are solely on one platform or that this has anything to do with the alt-right.
This is the EU being the EU.
Extremists are on every platform, it isn't exclusive to Xbox, it isn't exclusive to Steam etc.
Do people think Playstation has no alt-righters on the platform?
I have literally seen Nazi signs and drawings when playing splatoon 2 on Nintendo, let's not kid ourselves that these morons are solely on one platform or that this has anything to do with the alt-right.
This is the EU being the EU.
...ya think?
Yikes. Maybe take a little break from the internet, guys.
Think you're going to need more evidence on that than your own feelings. And don't link me some report that shows me that video games bring in more money cos that's not what's being argued here.
You really think video games are more relevant in the wider public's eyes than movies?
https://www.reuters.com/sponsored/article/popularity-of-gaming?utm_source=reddit.com
Looks like a legit source but cant say for sure
/jk
I know in my heart of hearts this is probably a joke but I have seen worse posts on Era that were completely serious.
Spotify has filled a lawsuit about the AppStore currently studied by the EU commission.
I agree.
can people not read?
These were the tariffs aimed at trump supporters
These are further tariffs not aimed at any one group
america can fuck off with its awful agricultural produce anyway, cunts
These were the tariffs aimed at trump supporters
These are further tariffs not aimed at any one group
america can fuck off with its awful agricultural produce anyway, cunts
This thread is crazy. One poster makes a joke about Xbox being far right and loads of people take it seriously and act like the whole thread is calling Xbox players nazis.
Anyway, reactionary tariffs seem a bit petty but at the same time Trump wins if the EU doesn't respond and that's definitely not good.
Anyway, reactionary tariffs seem a bit petty but at the same time Trump wins if the EU doesn't respond and that's definitely not good.
maybe you should reconsider your support of your white supremacist console, nazi. remember when bill gates said the 14 words?
It seems few people actually take a moment to understand what they're reading. The temptation to go into outrage mode is just too strong.
Anyway, the EU has to react in some way and there's a limit to how targeted these tariffs can be.
Move on from joke derail
Again, all that is saying is that video games bring in more revenue than movies or music, but that is unsurprising considering it's much more expensive.
The original poster was asserting that video games are more popular than movies overall, which I'm disputing, especially considering the broader demographics that movies attract. You think there are more people that care more about video games than care about movies? Really?
Edit: just read the staff post. Missed it before since I was writing my post and got a phone call, sorry
"Playstation is sociodemocrat and Stadia is libertarian".
Really? If everything else didn't, even that didn't ring any bells that it was just a joke?
Wasn't funny at all but c'mon...
I'm constantly amazed at how people miss jokes on here and go for literal interpretations, considering I'm not even a native English speaker and yet it was clear as a day to me. Maybe a little break from the internet would help.
"Playstation is sociodemocrat and Stadia is libertarian".
Really? If everything else didn't, even that didn't ring any bells that it was just a joke?
Wasn't funny at all but c'mon...
I'm constantly amazed at how people miss jokes on here and go for literal interpretations, considering I'm not even a native English speaker and yet it was clear as a day to me. Maybe a little break from the internet would help.
The Xbox is imported from China to the EU by Microsoft's Europe from China, so it wouldn't count as an American import in any case. I guess they mean any Xbox peripherals and products that are made in the USA, if there even are any?!
Depending on how the UK leaves, it could raise prices this generation anyway. If we leave the EU with no deal, WTO-default tariffs would be applied to Xbox (and Sony and Nintendo) consoles, whereas currently, the tariffs are lower than the WTO default, due to being in the EU. That's why the EU can say they'll make the tariffs higher, because they're already set lower than the maximum amount allowed by the WTO. If they already used the WTO defaults, there would be no wiggle room to legally be allowed to raise the tariffs higher.