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Eurogamer: Bethesda suing Warner Bros. over Westworld mobile game containing Fallout Shelter code.
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When I downloaded it, I thought it looked a little TOO close to Fallout Shelter, but I thought it was just a genre they were going for. No way in hell did I except it to be THIS close.
Why throw out your game engine and recreate it from scratch with each game? That doesn't make sense, it'd be a waste of time and money. Copying game-design concepts doesn't save any programming time at all.
Well, that would fit with not going after Behavior, given they're in Canada.
Because that game engine and related code is the property of Bethesda, just because you can access it doesn't mean you are cleared to use it or parts of the code. It's not good business sense to base your products on things you have no right to publish, it's a huge liability that could bite you in the rear if you get caught like these guys might have been.
It's not about throwing out code every time you want to create something like it, it's about ensuring ownership of said code so they are actually able to reuse it. If they are legally unable to use that code, then they are forced to either license it from Bethesda or write their own version of it.
"At Warner brothers our new focus will be GaaS...and stealing code from other games."
Get em bethesda
Get em bethesda
Wow. I played this game and thought it couldn't be any more lazy and unambitious. Honestly, fuck this game. It's easily the worst ive played this year.
That's not true at all. They're in the suit so that Bethesda can determine how much WB knew about all this so they can see if they are liable. WB won't lose money if Behavior did it all themselves. Behavior will just be on the line for a heck of a lot of money and will undoubtedly have to close down.
I mean... thats the issue with allowing code to be "copyrighted".
If you give a programmer a job to do, hes gonna code it one way.
If you take that code away and tell him to do it again... he's gonna code it the same way.
even if you tell him "And don't make it like the previous version" there's only so many ways you can actually write code, and some of those possible ways are straight up bad code
Falling trough the floor by clipping bug. 1 dollar royal-tee.
Absolutely agree, it's a very valid argument that you would write code in a very similar manner the second time around. The problem isn't really the concept of code itself, it's the structure and function of the code that is suspect here since it reproduces the same bugs as what Bethesda put out, it stands to reason that things would have functioned somewhat differently if they had to make their own interpretation of Bethesda's code instead of presumably reusing it as is.
I'm hard-pressed to think of a publisher I have a lesser opinion of than WB. What a difference from a number of years ago.
This sounds pretty damning, but Bethesda does have a pretty dodgy history of working with independent external developers, so I'm curious what Behaviour's side of the story is.
What's your source on this? In book publishing the publisher is absolutely responsible if their author plagiarizes. I'm curious how copyright law affects code differently.
Bethesda vs WB. Uh, is there some possibility than they'll both lose? That would be my favorite outcome.
Don't fuck with them Bethesda lawyers man.
Seems highly unlikely that Bethesda would just sue the developer and let the game continue to make money whilst using their technology without some sort of reimbursement and likely either forced licensing of the tech or shutting down the game. WB will definitely be affected.
Seems highly unlikely that Bethesda would just sue the developer and let the game continue to make money whilst using their technology without some sort of reimbursement and likely either forced licensing of the tech or shutting down the game. WB will definitely be affected.
