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Eurogamer: Layoffs at OnRush dev Evo, Driveclub director Rushy let go
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Shame. OnRush was exactly the kind of kick in the ass the genre needed, at least for someone like me. Wish it did better but the market for these kinds of games can be a cruel motherfucker.
the hot takes certainly are something...Onrush has nothing in common with the games mentioned here but alright, we get it, you didn´t even try to understand what Onrush is about. hint: it´s everything other than a "boring ass" game...
It's always sad to hear people losing their jobs but Onrush bombed really hard. I played on their free weekend trial and after an hour It became really boring. The vehicle design is awful all of them looks like an f2p assets nothing cool like we saw in MotorStorm. The overall goal of the game either confusing or uninteresting only good thing I remember about my little playthrough was graphics and environment.
I wish they worked on the next GRiD game instead of a new IP.
I wish they worked on the next GRiD game instead of a new IP.
I do like ranking this on a 1-10 scale, but we'll probably all have different opinions.
I think Gran Turismo and Forza Motorsport are 8. I agree with you they're definitely not 9 though.
Forza Horizon and Driveclub I would put around 6.5
What would you rank Mario Kart though?
Damn.
I've only played OnRush for a couple of hours after buying it on sale, but had fun so far and DriveClub might be my fav racing game ever.
I've only played OnRush for a couple of hours after buying it on sale, but had fun so far and DriveClub might be my fav racing game ever.
#DRIVECLUB is still the overall best racing game and my game of the generation!
Thanks for that Rushy and Evo!
The concept of OnRush didn't catch me, so i didn't buy it...
Sad to hear this kind of news :(
Hope they're all well!
Thanks for that Rushy and Evo!
The concept of OnRush didn't catch me, so i didn't buy it...
Sad to hear this kind of news :(
Hope they're all well!
Don't play it so can't rank it. I've only ranked the games I play. I don't really find anything below what I ranked engaging enough to play anymore so don't bother to be honest.
But yeh it's impossible for GT Sport and Forza to be ranked just a notch below the sims that are considered a "10" if we were to rank them based on how accurate they are in simulating driving a car. For a start, project cars 2 somewhat of a halfway home between GT/Forza and the more serious stuff. Then there's the fact that both Dirt Rally and F1 2017 are more realistic in a number of aspects if you set them up correctly.
Right your wrong Sony. Bring these talents back together for DriveClub 2. I loved the first one so much.
It's a shame that being a great game isn't enough. What's the difference between "great" and "special"?
The more I think about it, I honestly don't understand Codemaster's actions here. They bring on a closed down team to form a new studio, have them launch a new IP with meager marketing support, and then shut things down after initial sales numbers? Like, did they really expect OnRush to do miracle numbers or something? I can't see any sensible world where they would have said, "Look, okay, we'll bring you in. You're going to make a new IP. We're not going to give you a big marketing budget. You have to make the game in a short amount of time. Then, if it sells 'x' amount, we keep you going. If not, it's gonna be goodbye." Like, who takes on a project like that?
There has to be something more going on here that we haven't heard about.
There has to be something more going on here that we haven't heard about.
Major publishers in that space seem to scramble. It seems like a scary AF market to be in for pubs and devs. Either your game is a hit and gains traction right off the bat or it falls off the face of the earth.
Wow thats a shame. Hope thy land on their feet.
As a longtime fan of their other games, including Driveclub, i really wanted to like OnRush, but it just didnt do it for me.
As a longtime fan of their other games, including Driveclub, i really wanted to like OnRush, but it just didnt do it for me.
Oh man that's a real shame, and these news came far too soon. I thought they were safe now that Codemasters picked them up, seemed like the perfect fit. OnRush got decent review scores too, 76 on meta for PS4, 78 on XB1. GTS is at 75.
But unfortunately they went with a takedown focus instead of racing focus, I think that was a wrong move. Not sure if the open beta was a good idea either, the hype seemed to go down after that. People (including myself) really missed the traditional racing.
Seeing NMS gain hype again makes me think it shouldn't be too late to try fixing things. Maybe they could add a racing focused mode as a free update?
Hopefully the rest of the team get a chance to redeem themselves anyhow. Can't lose another racing dev. Far too many old racing series are forever gone or on hiatus for no reason. Driveclub, Motorstorm, Ridge Racer, Burnout, Destruction Derby, Project Gotham Racing, Test Drive, F-Zero, Wave Race, and more.
But unfortunately they went with a takedown focus instead of racing focus, I think that was a wrong move. Not sure if the open beta was a good idea either, the hype seemed to go down after that. People (including myself) really missed the traditional racing.
Seeing NMS gain hype again makes me think it shouldn't be too late to try fixing things. Maybe they could add a racing focused mode as a free update?
Hopefully the rest of the team get a chance to redeem themselves anyhow. Can't lose another racing dev. Far too many old racing series are forever gone or on hiatus for no reason. Driveclub, Motorstorm, Ridge Racer, Burnout, Destruction Derby, Project Gotham Racing, Test Drive, F-Zero, Wave Race, and more.
What a bummer.
I thought they were working on the new Grid. That's still coming I believe.
Motorstorm Pacific Rift is my favorite racing game of all time. I wonder how Evolution's story would've played out if Sony had them create a Motorstorm game for the PS4 launch instead of Driveclub.
Oh yes it is. Being able to tune the cars alone makes it so, no even getting into the physics which it also does a better.
I know right? it's so sad that people lose their jobs even they make very good work.
As for your question, it's not something that can pinpoint or quantify to be honest but what i can tell you is that Motorstorm had this problem too, Pacific Rift was the closest to have this quality i feel.
Why didn't they just make a racer like motorstorm again? I wanted a next gen off road arcarde game like pacific rift so bad.
I bought onrush at full price and you get tired of it, real quick. It was foolish to cost so much and it was foolish not to have a classic race mode.
I bought onrush at full price and you get tired of it, real quick. It was foolish to cost so much and it was foolish not to have a classic race mode.
9.5, I guess?
This might be valid on a logarithmic scale, where the fidelity gets higher towards the top to differentiate similar examples, but as a linear scale it's totally absurd. The differences between, say, GT Sport and rFactor 2 aren't neglible by any means, but a layman would find it very hard to tell the difference and outright impossible to suggest which is more realistic. You're implying that there's a similarly sized gap between rFactor 2 and GT Sport as there is between, say, Mario Kart and Need for Speed. Nuh uh.
It's a pretty long time since I played Driveclub, but I guess the way I'd say it is this. Forza Horizon feels like a softened sim whereas Driveclub feels like the developers completely messed with the physics to get a certain feel out of it. You can take a crazy amount of speed into and through corners in Driveclub.
It's a shame, people just won't support experiments by even well loved developers. I had my doubts at first but bought it partly because I want to support Evolution in whatever they're doing. They're a great team and the enjoyment I've had out of their games over the years mean I'm willing to give their new project a chance.
And I've loved it, played it frequently since it's launch. I thought this was Codemasters letting them build a new engine from scratch, while building a smaller game. So it could be used with future titles. Seems a shame they just cut and run like this.
And I've loved it, played it frequently since it's launch. I thought this was Codemasters letting them build a new engine from scratch, while building a smaller game. So it could be used with future titles. Seems a shame they just cut and run like this.
I'm sad to hear that, I hope everyone lands on their feet. Doubly worse, this is another great racing studio has been busted up.
Personally I never warmed to OnRush, it's just not what I'm looking for in a racing game (similar feelings to Motorstorm). I think they would've been better served by making a spiritual successor to Driveclub. Yeah it had a bad launch, but really gained a solid reputation and is one of the best racers of the generation.
Personally I never warmed to OnRush, it's just not what I'm looking for in a racing game (similar feelings to Motorstorm). I think they would've been better served by making a spiritual successor to Driveclub. Yeah it had a bad launch, but really gained a solid reputation and is one of the best racers of the generation.
We don't have the money to support experiments. I just wanted Driveclub 2 or the spiritual one.
C'mon, this thread is depressing enough as it is. PGR ain't happening :(
To expand on my earlier point, I really find it hard to believe the developers didn't have a single media consultant tell them to change to F2P model. They would have been able to find bridge financing for the transition over from RRP to free, and would absolutely make a killing from the cosmetics and increased exposure, and wouldn't have the inevitable backlash they're going to get from full price purchasers when the game does that anyway in the coming months.
Really sucks. I didn't even know OnRush was out when it came out until I saw it was on sale for $35 on the PS Store. At that point I thought about buying it but tbh I game mostly on my Switch these days, so yea :/.
Eh, the studio is very talented. They make fun and gorgeous games. It's a shame Sony couldn't get them to work on/find a game with more widestream appeal.
Kinda like what Microsoft did with Forza. Horizon shares many assets with Motorsport, which allows faster development time but both games are unique in what they offer gameplay wise.
Eh, the studio is very talented. They make fun and gorgeous games. It's a shame Sony couldn't get them to work on/find a game with more widestream appeal.
Kinda like what Microsoft did with Forza. Horizon shares many assets with Motorsport, which allows faster development time but both games are unique in what they offer gameplay wise.
They tried free weekends, but it didn't lead to an uptick in sales. At some point people just need to accept that maybe it's just not a game people are interested in playing. Especially not at 60 dollars, and apparently not at a reduced price of 39.99.
They weren't going to build DriveClub 2 from scratch in two years, just not realistic. I would have loved that too, but obviously not what Codemasters bought them for. That would have required Sony to keep them and let them build on what they'd accomplished.
But all this tech they've built up from scratch could have let them build it next and then that two years seems reasonable.
They should have dropped digital price as well (unless I missed it), it's $39.99 on Amazon, but $59.99 on Xbox Store. I don't buy physical, so if digital isn't matching, it's getting a pass.
Yes, please!!! Its time for the best brutal off road racer game ever created to come back!!! Lunatics Unite and make this happen :)
I don't think the digital price ever dropped. We're headed towards a Destiny 2 $5.99 price point I'm guessing.
I agree with the Motorstorm part, i really like Motorstorm, i freaking Love Pacific Rift, i like Apocalypse. DriveClub wasnt a bad game by any means but this Onrush game needed to come out with a $39.99 price tag from the get go.
Can't say I didn't see that coming. I'm a arcade racer fan and Onrush didn't appeal to me at all.
I feel bad for the team though. I hope they can bring some key staff together and make some other arcade racer with actual focus on racing.
Sonic Team Racing having a Single Player mode is like dodge a bullet lol
I feel bad for the team though. I hope they can bring some key staff together and make some other arcade racer with actual focus on racing.
Sonic Team Racing having a Single Player mode is like dodge a bullet lol