Considering Britain sent Farage back with some new faces, I think voting went quite well in the UK. No Tommy Robinson, Carl of Swinton, Drankula and even Gerard fucking Baton got kicked out too, sorry about Farage though EU era.
I'm sure there are gonna be arseholes amongst the brexit meps we will know about soon though. But I share your relief.Considering Britain sent Farage back with some new faces, I think voting went quite well in the UK. No Tommy Robinson, Carl of Swinton, Drankula and even Gerard fucking Baton got kicked out too, sorry about Farage though EU era.
Considering Britain sent Farage back with some new faces, I think voting went quite well in the UK. No Tommy Robinson, Carl of Swinton, Drankula and even Gerard fucking Baton got kicked out too, sorry about Farage though EU era.
The EU are going to adore Ann Widdecombe, I'm sure! D:Considering Britain sent Farage back with some new faces, I think voting went quite well in the UK. No Tommy Robinson, Carl of Swinton, Drankula and even Gerard fucking Baton got kicked out too, sorry about Farage though EU era.
I'm sure there are gonna be arseholes amongst the brexit meps we will know about soon though. But I share your relief.
Aye, it's pretty fucking sad they were ever in contention though, and without the Brexit party some would have made it.
I still don't understand how "Tommy" could run, I thought people that have serious crimes (like fraud) couldn't run. Obviously that isn't true but the idea of electing someone convicted of fraud to rule over more than hamster is nuts.
I see, we really should make it law that you cannot run with serious offences like fraud on your record. Although maybe it's better we don't because the Tories would end up banning anyone with more than a speeding ticket.I think it's because he was an independent. When you're too extreme even for UKIP 🤣
Still a travesty he got 30 odd thousand votes, but thankfully not enough for a seat.
I see, we really should make it law that you cannot run with serious offences like fraud on your record. Although maybe it's better we don't because the Tories would end up banning anyone with more than a speeding ticket.
The UK govt have a lot to answer for allowing some one will like Yaxley to run and deny EU citizens the right to vote. It's fucking shameful.
Pretty sure only Parliament would fall, the President won't leave office.
Edit :
I'll need to check on that but the parliament would be untouched, it's the ministers/secretary of states which would be forced to resign (the president would remain).
Edit 2 : The government (I believe you call that the "administration" in the US?) is nominated by the president. But if the president nominates a government which the parliament wants to reject, it can (through another form of motion de censure). Which is why in the past (when presidential mandates were 7 years, and parliament were "only" 5 years) we had what we called "cohabitation": the parliament was opposed to the president, so the president was forced to assemble an administration from the "opposition" (which held the parliament).
Also, the French Greens are a particularly bad lot, being either idiots, scientifically illiterate, or downright toxic assholes (they had a sexual harassment scandal where the harasser had the support of the top of the party, and actually sued his victim for daring to complain). And let's not talk about the anti Vax.EELV doesn't have much details in their program outside of ecology tbh, and they're relatively small. The Left won't have much chances for the next election without some kind of alliance, and it's the case for every left-wing party.
Macron is now polling better for the first round that he did in his initial run.
So is Le Pen.
Not sure Macron standing aside is a great idea either, LR/PS are indeed dead and buried and I'm not sure anyone from EELV would do well, they've never been a big party. That leaves FI (lol) and Macron versus LePen - and she's getting 45% in the only head-to-head poll done (granted at the low point of Macron's approval)
The RN's loyal base basically guarantees her entry into the second round. It's scary af. Eventually people will have had enough of voting against LePen and she'll be President. No candidate will be able to stop that. "Why not give her a shot? What's the worst that can happen amirite?"
Is that enough to guarantee she will realistically get to the run off again? :(Polls 3 years ahead of an election don't make much sense, they tend to just skew towards the more mediatic figures
Macron didn't even exit in 2014 the two lead candidates were Le Pen at 30% and Juppé/Sarkozy at 30% (with Hollande at 20%, Melenchon and Bayrou at 10%), we all know how it turned out in the end.
The only certain thing is indeed that Le Pen has >20% locked and it's both sad and infuriating.
Yeah you're right.From my understanding, it's the government that falls. The government is the prime minister (head of government), and all the other ministers (members of the Cabinet in US parlance). The president is the head of state, not government, and he nominates the prime minister (confirmed via parliament). (this is all of the top of my head and it's been a decade since my last French civics class, so correct me if I'm wrong).
IIRC, the president only chooses the prime minister, who then chooses the ministers. Of course, the president can still unofficially ask nicely for certain people to hold certain positions.
Edit: just checked, I was not quite right about the above. The prime minister proposes a list of potential ministers, and the president accepts or rejects each one individually.
Fair enough.Polls 3 years ahead of an election don't make much sense, they tend to just skew towards the more mediatic figures
Macron didn't even exit in 2014 the two lead candidates were Le Pen at 30% and Juppé/Sarkozy at 30% (with Hollande at 20%, Melenchon and Bayrou at 10%), we all know how it turned out in the end.
The only certain thing is indeed that Le Pen has >20% locked and it's both sad and infuriating.
Is that enough to guarantee she will realistically get to the run off again? :(
Is that enough to guarantee she will realistically get to the run off again? :(
Yeah, the Greens are going to have to mature a bit if they want to be seen as a realistic alternative to the center-left parties that have bled power since the Great Recession. Obviously the German Greens have done this extremely well, and there are a few other countries within Western Europe where they are serious about governing. But not all of them, so it'll be curious to see where they go from here now that there's been a groundswell for them. To use a North American example, there's a world of difference between an Elizabeth May and a Jill Stein.Yeah, there are brutal differences across the different Green parties. Most of them (all?) are antinuclear to an irrational degree, but Spanish and French ones are full of wifi fearing, antivax, tinfoil hatters. That's without getting into their genuinely scary views regarding international policy.
Irish Update: Counting should finish today.
1st. Kelly (FG - EPP) (elected)
2nd. Wallace (I4C - but I'm assuming GUE/NGL)
3rd. O'Sullivan (Green - G/EFA)
4th. Kelleher (FF - ALDE)
5th. Ni Riada (SF - GUE/NGL)
Glune from FG is about to be eliminated so we'll see how her transfers go. Everyone is separated by a few thousand votes.
Better off without us 😥The actual result is
1st. Kelly (FG - EPP) (elected)
2nd. Kelleher (FF - ALDE)
3rd. Wallace (I4C - but I'm assuming GUE/NGL)
4th. Clune (FG - EPP)
5th. O'Sullivan (Green - G/EFA)
6th. Ni Riada (SF - GUE/NGL)
But there is a full recount now because Ni Riada was just 350 votes behind O'Sullivan when eliminated
Also here is the update on the pre / post Brexit parliament:
Depends what you want.Fuck. Am I supposed to want the UK to stay now? This is so conflicting.
Thanks for the update BTW.
The question is, at which point the CDU will stop the self destruction?
Kind of awesome. My whole family voted green. This never happened before.Almost a week after the elections and the german goverment is imploding.
First poll is now coming out with greens being the biggest party on a national level for the first time ever at 27%.
CDU/CSU drops to 26% and SPD has the worst polling ever at 12%.
Meanwhile Merkel is in america and continues her IDGAF tour.