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Eurovision Song Contest 2019 |OT| The place where joiking, dead drops, dentists and bondage come together.
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Yep. Brexit just feels like the current excuse. Before Brexit it was the Iraq War, even though it wasn't fresh in anyone's memory by the time Brexit happened. Also, if it is just anti-UK sentiment, why do our Eurovision songs tank in the UK charts too? The last song to crack the top 20 was Blue's 2011 entry, with most entries since then falling outside of the top 50. In the same period, five Eurovision winners cracked the top 20, and two in the top 10. If the home market isn't interested in the songs we are sending, why should anyone else be?
As long as we keep sending bland songs that seem specifically designed as Eurovision entries, or are Melodifestivalen cast offs, with boring staging, we're going to do badly.
Someone on Reddit did the math and figured out that the Nordics + Baltics bloc was far and away the strongest in the history of the contest, much much more powerful than the ex-Yugoslavian countries or ex-Soviet Republics and Russia. People in western/central europe tend not to perceive it as being a bloc because in their mind the region typically sends quality, so it doesn't count.
This is taste!
Still feels brilliant that Belgium just made up a language.
Has Madonna commented on yesterday's performance yet? My ears hurt just thinking about it!
She wouldn't last ten seconds on any reality talent show with that "singing".
She wouldn't last ten seconds on any reality talent show with that "singing".
Like usually in recent years some basic gig wins for being "real music" or whatever. I just wish the voters would finally fully embrace the campiness of this contest.
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Honestly I think the top 3 in 2003 were all good. Sertab Erener still is one of my favourite winners of the past 20 years, Sanomi is easily one of Belgium's best entries ever, and tatu were like, back in a time when Russia wasn't the dictatorial hegemony it is nowadays. It's not a super great song, but not terrible either.
There's much worse years and winners than 2003, to be quite honest.
It goes in waves, and just camp is just not cutting it anymore.
Man, Slovenia's song doesn't get out my mind. I love it a lot, and I think this Duo will be on my watchlist to check all their other songs. I really hope that this Duo is not disappointed by their results (although 13th rank not too bad ist).
Hahaha I'm not alone! Balkan Girls was and is one of my all time favourites and I still listen to it time to time.
Hahaha I'm not alone! Balkan Girls was and is one of my all time favourites and I still listen to it time to time.
Their other stuff is very similar to Sebi and definitely worth checking out if you liked it:
Listening back to the whole Eurovision list on Spotify, a couple of things become even more apparent.
- Production quality really improved a lot over the years. Even the smaller countries' songs generally have rich soundscapes and are mixed very well.
- There are almost no stinkers, the worst ones are just more bland. Inoffensive background music. That also bespeaks less flanderization, because there's almost no gimmicky shit.
- Although Norway's song is eminently danceable (much like that other spirit in the sky), the joikoing is definitely very gimmicky, it would have been better without that interlude. Iceland's song actually has a really great bassline, but should have toned down the grunting too.
- The only one who really got done dirty was Australia. I guess I got distracted by the poleswinging too much, because the song itself is super unique. I can see now why they gave it such a lavish show because they probably felt they had a winner on their hands. But listening to it better, the staging probably hurt it because you just notice the swaying and the queen of the night aria from die Zauberflote without noticing the actual song.
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Holland used to think this was a corrupted show as well. And while bloc voting certainly is a thing I don't think this is as much the case as we sometimes thought. Our songs were simply shit for a good few years, or decades even (you should look up terrible shit like Treble or Sieneke). Since our music industry changed it up, by sending actual talented performers and writers behind the songs, we fare much better with a few top 10's, a second place and now a win.
England simply sends consistently shit songs, like we used to do. Brexit is only recently, yet England has been shit for ages now.
England simply sends consistently shit songs, like we used to do. Brexit is only recently, yet England has been shit for ages now.
Same, I really liked it and it was the first time I wanted to send an SMS to vote for a song.
Thanks for the link, I enjoyed it !
Hope they do more, it brings back memories of when I was into Russian music almost a decade ago.
So after a second viewing, I don't have anything to add to my last post here. Well, other than the new Nana Banana song from last years winner actually being a banger. I was a bit distracted by the performance the first time, but that song on its own actually slaps.
I think I'll grab the album this time around, this year actually had a bunch of nice songs.
I think I'll grab the album this time around, this year actually had a bunch of nice songs.
EBU issues statement on Eurovision 2019 Grand Final jury result
The corrected result
The corrected result
- Netherlands (498 points)
- Italy (472 points)
- Russia (370 points)
- Switzerland (364 points)
- Sweden (334 points)
- Norway (331 points)
- North Macedonia (305 points)
- Azerbaijan (302 points)
- Australia (284 points)
- Iceland (232 points)
- Czech Republic (157 points)
- Denmark (120 points)
- Cyprus (109 points)
- Malta (107 points)
- Slovenia (105 points)
- France (105 points)
- Albania (90 points)
- Serbia (89 points)
- San Marino (77 points)
- Estonia (76 points)
- Greece (74 points)
- Spain (54 points)
- Israel (35 points)
- Belarus (31 points)
- Germany (24 points)
- United Kingdom (11 points)
absolutely nasty to do that to Norway when they had actually bested Sweden for once
also they just published a video on their official channel of the top 10 with the old results so I'm considering that official!
edit: also worth pointing out that North Macedonia now officially won the jury vote, not Sweden.
also they just published a video on their official channel of the top 10 with the old results so I'm considering that official!
edit: also worth pointing out that North Macedonia now officially won the jury vote, not Sweden.
I agree, the Polish song was great. I was shocked it didn't advance.
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Hahaha ok I liked that more than I should. It also emulated the fireworks. Such Eurovisiony
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It has the key change at the end, too!
And the lyrics make as much sense as your average Eurovision song.
How the hell did this safe moist as dude Netherlands win with that safe moist as song. That top 5? 'Scust.
Australia and Norway were the only ones bringing the camp to the party. Robberies were committed!
Australia and Norway were the only ones bringing the camp to the party. Robberies were committed!
Finally watched it yesterday. Same feeling on the winner.
North Macedonia getting 58 points from the televote is some BULLSHIT.
I mean, it sounded like a bootleg Bond movie intro. Or maybe something from the 80s that no one remembers.
ok but bootleg bond songs are a crucial eurovision subgenre, let's not
Eurovision winners haven't really been camp in the last 5 years, and it was about 50/50 in the ten years before that.