I was a believer long before that, but there's no doubt W3 only helped perfect what gives a side quest the potential to be great.
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Every Sidequest In Cyberpunk 2077 Will Feel Like A Complete Story In And Of Itself - CDProjekt
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I was a believer long before that, but there's no doubt W3 only helped perfect what gives a side quest the potential to be great.
I mean it does not, im not saying that. W3 writing is something else compared to nearly every game this gen. I'm just saying both games have fetch quests, its just writing and cutscenes hide that in W3 a lot better than in Origins.
That happens with every single game tho? Even BoTW got 7 or something , right? There is no pleasing everyone and no game is above critique
I mean, this is what they did with sidequests in Witcher 3 as well.
Bookmarking this thread for launch day, when every sidequest does not, in fact, feel like a complete story in and of itself.
I appreciate them aiming for the moon on this shit but man are they making impossible promises early on in development.
I appreciate them aiming for the moon on this shit but man are they making impossible promises early on in development.
I mean, that's the gameplay. You're playing a guy with supernatural-level tracking skills. He tracks things. Would it be nice if there was a little more variety in terms of how he accomplished that? Sure. But tracking and investigating stuff is Geralt's game.
majority of witcher quests were self contained stories tho.
CDPR is probably the only dev studio right now which can make this sort of a claim and it would sound believable. They came pretty close to this in Witcher 3 + DLCs, and taking into account the astonishing quality jumps between their three games up to this moment, and also taking into account the fact that they are basically swimming in money after the success of Witcher 3 (while Witcher 3 itself was made on a quite tight budget), they might actually pull this off.
They were self contained stories but "there's nothing that feels like filler" and "up to the standards of the main quest" is sort of a different thing
You're right. I just want then to be a little more creative. Witcher 3 is one of the top 3 of the generation for most of us, I have no doubt Cyberpunk is going to take the place of one of the other two.
Some of the side quest chains were better than main story tho? And filler is subjective , is it not? If you dont give a shit about narrative and want gameplay , then it wont help even if it were the Citizen Kane of sidequests.
Yep that is true. Also games like Assassins Creeds have multiple teams making them
https://kotaku.com/how-multiple-ubisoft-studios-make-so-many-assassin-s-cr-1824298939
Yeah, of course? I liked it a lot but didn't really view it as a classic I guess.
Yeah, "filler" is subjective. So is "good", "better", and literally anything else we can talk about when referring to videogames. That really isn't even a worthwhile thing bringing up?
I like both but I value narrative a lot. I just found some of the Witcher sidequests as like, unquestionably (to me) just sort of bullshit side stories. Not egregiously offensive, just not much to them. And it didn't help that the mechanics of a lot of sidequests didn't really play with the story at all or change the way the game player in any way.
I've no reason to doubt cdpr after The Witcher 3 and Dlc's. Easy to be cynical and the proof is in the pudding but I've zero reason to doubt them. Zero.
That sounds great, but also sounds like there's no chance of a 2019 release if they really stick to that.
Devs like Larian and Obsidian have been doing this for years (Even before that, it used to be the standards with games like Fallout 2 and BG2), no idea why people are acting like Witcher 3 invented meaningful sub-quests (When in fact a lot of Witcher contracts tend to fall in "repetitive busywork" category).
Hopefully they actually improve their quest design and will go beyond "Follow the batman sense".
Hopefully they actually improve their quest design and will go beyond "Follow the batman sense".
""We don't artificially limit ourselves," Mills says. "Our philosophy for quest design is, 'If the player can logically do it, then they can'. And if they can't, then we have to come up with a damn good reason why."
THIS IS WHY THEY ARE THE G.O.A.T.
More developers need to think this way. I absolutely believe they can pull this off after seeing that gameplay demo. Cyberpunk is going to be absolutely fucking insane.
THIS IS WHY THEY ARE THE G.O.A.T.
More developers need to think this way. I absolutely believe they can pull this off after seeing that gameplay demo. Cyberpunk is going to be absolutely fucking insane.
Haha, I'd genuinely be OK with that if they were substantial enough.
I have more faith in CDPR than a lot of devs, but stuff like this always comes off as over hyping. Like when devs say their game will have 1000 different endings, but it's just different combination of 20 different PowerPoint slides.
I really can't wait.
I also really want to know how our back story / who we become will influence those quests.
I also really want to know how our back story / who we become will influence those quests.
And to be fair again, nobody is forcing you to buy a Ubi game.
exactly which is why it's perfectly fine to compare and contrast these products without having to worry about why Ubi's game are the way they are because at the end of the day they are
touche.
Ubi does pump out games pretty fast. I guess money talks and while people keep buying them up, I don't see them switching to making better games that release much less frequently. I'm just thankful for studios like CDPR existing.
For me, everything about this game makes it sound like the absolute GOAT. I was blown away by the gameplay demo.
I just hope like W3 it has a great mix of side content from the more in depth quest and hunts, to the question marks around that map that could be a wide variety of different things. Considering how fantastic Blood and Wine is i have no reason to doubt them.
It sounds to me like they want to improve upon what they had already done in Witcher 3, and I am so so ready for them to accomplish it.
I hope they take as much time as they need to fulfill these statements.
I hope they take as much time as they need to fulfill these statements.
I wonder how many human/cyborg modifications there will be in the game? Will it be like in Fallout: New Vegas where people were still finding new locations/quests on the map years after the game released? I sure hope so. Would be appealing that exploration would create unique gameplay based on how modifications change your approach to a mission.
The Perspective actually affects him.
I wasnt blown away by the demo but I do love side quests so this is great news to me
Yeah, a shame really. But looking at the demo first person perspective seems to be deep rooted into the gameplay and augmentations. .
This. There were some side stories you wish you could see more of.
This game is gonna be soo ambitious. They certainly aim super high with every project,their status after just 3 games in their history,is a prime example of passionate people that want to succeed and leave their mark on the industry.
I was neutral about the perspective,but after I saw the demo live I was totally convinved. People need to be more open minded,I mean the game looks like Deus Ex on steroids which is insane
I was neutral about the perspective,but after I saw the demo live I was totally convinved. People need to be more open minded,I mean the game looks like Deus Ex on steroids which is insane
