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Everything You Need to Know about Dreams.
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youre going to need both as the secondary one one is the one that controls things like menu and whatnot. its required to have both.
VR and local MP create stuff isn't there. and i consider that features.
Darn. Alright. I'll have to see if I can borrow one from a friend. Thanks! It's too bad they couldn't do a solution with the Navigation Controller or using a Dualshock in the other hand.
the more i see of this the more i get that Project Spark feeling about it where I'm sure there will be some great creators but it will be flooded with novelty tripe.
although what i saw of a dev stream today with neon levels and a snow level left me not wanting to see any more of it.
although what i saw of a dev stream today with neon levels and a snow level left me not wanting to see any more of it.
So they are possibly near finished, just that and polishing.
Depends how much they take into account the feedback being given. I think it'll be a few months at least. I just hope they decide to extend the beta.
theres other stuff that's not there. i can't mention what it is since NDA.
Is that why that impressive sculpt of the deep sea fish creature looked to have a seam running down the middle of it? Perhaps to get around thermo issues?
I'm not that familiar with Project Spark and what was possible with it. Did it have a tool set anything like what we've seen with Dreams, e.g. sculpting, logic, music, etc.? Did it allow people to use assets created by others?
What turned you off from what you saw on the dev stream? Remember the beta has only been going on for two weeks so I'd expect to see a lot of re-using of assets at this point.
i tried when you could join the beta. i remember just extruding the field and that was it. lol
Yeah, everything is pre made in project spark....
This is a detailed comparsion and it sounds like Dreams is much better overall.
Oh sure, there will be lots of novelty tripe, but this is no Project Spark. Here you create everything. Project Spark had tons of DLC assets. I am not sure what MM could release as DLC for Dreams.
Probably quality levels and maybe an asset we can use for our games
Same here. Feel the exact same way. The games look really bad. Yeah there hasn't been enough time for creators to really dig deep but I don't even think the stuff media molecule has made for dream doesn't look that enticing either. I think the best time to get it would be years down the line. The game will be at a significant discount and creators would have tons of time to master plus there would be tons of things to download.
Poking around trying to learn more about Project Spark, I happened upon a Youtube channel named LadylexUK who has several videos on accomplishing things in Spark. I think there may be many from that community that will want to create in Dreams. I'm looking forward to see what previous Project Spark creators are able to accomplish in Dreams.
I don't know how much of this if any would translate into creations in Dreams but I still find it fascinating.
LadylexUK Youtube Channel
I don't know how much of this if any would translate into creations in Dreams but I still find it fascinating.
LadylexUK Youtube Channel
When you say 'the game', which game are you talking about exactly? We've only seen a half a dozen games and those were made in 2 weeks or less. The games will play and look how the developer makes them play and look. Would you play a bad game made with Unreal and blame Unreal for that bad game, or would you blame the developer?
I remember her video watching the Dreams trailer. Her speculation (and skepticism that what she was seeing would even be possible) kinda summarizes the whole comparison... people enjoyed PSpark despite its limitations. Dreams is PSpark without all those limitations in addition to powerful new interdisciplinary tools. It's a joke comparison. Does more to illustrate how much people don't know about Dreams. Especially when they act all clever, like no one has heard of Spark.
Last I knew she was migrating with her group to Dreams. They're (or were, this was months ago) active on one the communities... dream bubble iirc.
Well I've made and released my first game. It's terrible not sure you could even call it a game, its stupid but it makes me laugh and I don't care what people think(I hope a few people like it). I was just messing about and testing out ideas really. Its called Dont Sneeze! if anyones interested.
Based on what you've mentioned your interests were in the past, I feel like you'd be using the DS4 most of the time anyway.
Yeah, hopefully. I was thinking moves would probably be preferred while doing animation (especially keyframe) for posing and such. Man, so close now. Kinda bummed to miss out on the robot jam. Fun theme. I always liked drawing robots.
I think most os them looks really good. There are some simple levels, but it's really easy to use the tools and make some good looking games.
We've seen some gorgeous shots from Media Molecule. I'm sure we'll see some gorgeous games from the community.
I think they should be thinking about themes for jams that might benefit the community more, in terms of seeding dreamiverse with content that has utility. So for example we see a lot of these games are being built around the simple pre-fab default characters, or slightly modified puppet. They should do a jam that's like "Adventure Character" or something, so some of these games can benefit from more interesting PCs. Or whatever topic, but you get my point.
someone animated a t-rex. got the motion sensor to move its head and such. got really good movement on it.
it might just be beta and they are just testing out the jam feature and just doing simple stuff to build dreamiverse. im sure with feedback they will change over time.
As I suggested, have simpler weekly jams leading to a big monthly jam. Each weekly jam would be themed around the coming monthly jam. Week 1 (spooky music and spooky sound effects), week 2 (rickety old furniture and fittings), week 3 (scary characters or scenes) Week 4 (make scary special effects), monthly event (make horror game)
As that month begins, the next weekly tasks also begin. People would have a whole month to make something substantial, sped up because a lot of the assets would have been made, giving them able time to also make weekly assets for the next months jam.
It's a win win all around. We get lots more assets, and themed, and MM get plenty of content to promote Dreams.
Yeah I liked that suggestion when I read it but forgot to comment -- feel like I post in this thread too much lol.
I suspect they will create events, I almost want to say I though I heard them say just that in one of the earlier livestreams. I already know there are a ton of amatuer creators like myself that have sizable shelf of game ideas we haven't been able to really explore until now. I only wish I could import my lo poly work from Maya and ZBrush and modo stuff
I made a couple of edits because I realised the monthly jam would be at the very end of the month leading into the following month. We have 4 main catagories: Music, special effects, scene assets and characters. This HAS to be done, it's just too obvious and benefits everyone, including MM.
It would lead to an exponential growth in quality games.
edit: I've sent the idea directly the Alex.
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I put quite a bit of time into Project Spark (on PC at that), and I'll say right now Dreams has impressed me far, FAR more than Project Spark ever did, both in terms of tools and player made content.
And it's only been available as a beta for a couple weeks to a pretty small group of people.
It's barely even comparable tbh.
Haha, dont be so pesimistic. Ok tbh, I fear it will be the same for me.
I'm amazed that nothing has leaked, I know NDAs etc, but usually there is someone that doesn't care for that.
Yeah a few gifs but that's about it really. There was only about 1500 people in the first part of the beta. Definitely don't expect the NDA to hold up next stage.
Nope, everything is done by myself. This level is literally my little playground for ideas I have during the beta period, so that's why all the passages differ from each other :D
Some of the creations in the Top 10 Video from Project spark dont look bad, but it clearly lacks that Special something/Innovation (and I guess it´s the fault of the program).
This time, we will defeat the betacurse ;).
I've noticed that all levels are separate and that you can play any level first. I'm not specifically talking about your creations, just in general. I haven't done anything significant myself, just a few sculpts the community may want to use (thermo munchers). Isn't the level map in the beta version? I recall watching MM explain that you can place your levels into this map and then link them via wires to other sections of your level, or even a side level. I really hope this isn't the format they're going for because games shouldn't be called Flicktrip part 1, part 2, part 2, they should just be called Flicktrip and we shouldn't be able to access each one separately. For me that was the whole point of Dreams: To be able to 'add' levels or more gameplay post release and slowly build on an idea. I thought that was the whole point in being able to save progress.
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