Nothing here either.
I know this isn't a popular thought around here but if Media Molecule is going to leave it up to the creators to sell their product, i can see this struggling to find a big audience. LBP sold well mostly due to the characters, the vibe, the novelty and the single player content that Media Molecule made, with creation and creator content as an added bonus. That's the reason why i, as a non creator, bought every LBP game in the first place.
We don't know yet how big the single player campaign will be but there have been rumours of a short, 3 hour-ish, campaign? I wonder how many non creators are going to be prepared to pay full price (assuming it will be full price, which we don't know yet) for such a short game. Especially since it will take more time for good creator content to appear due to the more complex tools in Dreams. Non creators will shelve the game and move on to something new.
Don't get me wrong. I love Media Molecule and have bought every game they have made so far. I'm just wondering how they are going to sell Dreams to the big public, assuming that the biggest part of gamers will never create something and mostly consume content. I feel Dreams needs a big "game" part out of the box if they want to attract a big audience. As a potential buyer with no plans to create myself, i hoped Dreams would be an amazing/fun/fresh/imaginative game (similar to most of Media Molecule's other games) with the added bonus of content creation. Selling it primarily as a games engine and relying on creators to make the game part, seems risky.
I know this isn't a popular thought around here but if Media Molecule is going to leave it up to the creators to sell their product, i can see this struggling to find a big audience. LBP sold well mostly due to the characters, the vibe, the novelty and the single player content that Media Molecule made, with creation and creator content as an added bonus. That's the reason why i, as a non creator, bought every LBP game in the first place.
We don't know yet how big the single player campaign will be but there have been rumours of a short, 3 hour-ish, campaign? I wonder how many non creators are going to be prepared to pay full price (assuming it will be full price, which we don't know yet) for such a short game. Especially since it will take more time for good creator content to appear due to the more complex tools in Dreams. Non creators will shelve the game and move on to something new.
Don't get me wrong. I love Media Molecule and have bought every game they have made so far. I'm just wondering how they are going to sell Dreams to the big public, assuming that the biggest part of gamers will never create something and mostly consume content. I feel Dreams needs a big "game" part out of the box if they want to attract a big audience. As a potential buyer with no plans to create myself, i hoped Dreams would be an amazing/fun/fresh/imaginative game (similar to most of Media Molecule's other games) with the added bonus of content creation. Selling it primarily as a games engine and relying on creators to make the game part, seems risky.
I feel like it's just a natural outcome of their vision. It's been no secret that the greater part of making Dreams was making the creation tools, since they have to rely entire on them to create their game content rather than any internal dev tools. They can either hold back the release for 8 months, and I believe that's a generous estimate, to build an expansive 8 hour+ experience with what is essentially final, releasable code or get it in players' hands to get that flow of content creation going. There's almost no doubt that Media Molecule couldn't match even 1/10 of the community output once people get experienced with the tools, just by sheer numbers. And I do mean only counting quality content.I know this isn't a popular thought around here but if Media Molecule is going to leave it up to the creators to sell their product, i can see this struggling to find a big audience. LBP sold well mostly due to the characters, the vibe, the novelty and the single player content that Media Molecule made, with creation and creator content as an added bonus. That's the reason why i, as a non creator, bought every LBP game in the first place.
We don't know yet how big the single player campaign will be but there have been rumours of a short, 3 hour-ish, campaign? I wonder how many non creators are going to be prepared to pay full price (assuming it will be full price, which we don't know yet) for such a short game. Especially since it will take more time for good creator content to appear due to the more complex tools in Dreams. Non creators will shelve the game and move on to something new.
Don't get me wrong. I love Media Molecule and have bought every game they have made so far. I'm just wondering how they are going to sell Dreams to the big public, assuming that the biggest part of gamers will never create something and mostly consume content. I feel Dreams needs a big "game" part out of the box if they want to attract a big audience. As a potential buyer with no plans to create myself, i hoped Dreams would be an amazing/fun/fresh/imaginative game (similar to most of Media Molecule's other games) with the added bonus of content creation. Selling it primarily as a games engine and relying on creators to make the game part, seems risky.
No codes were sent out yet for NA according to Tom from MM on Discord.
Most close betas have a preorder incentive attached to it where you're 100% guaranteed to get in.I mean, beta was handled no differently than most any other closed beta in existence
Got to hand it to Sony to make beta periods even shorter after extensionNo codes were sent out yet for NA according to Tom from MM on Discord.
Watch it be 11:59pm pst
I feel like it's just a natural outcome of their vision. It's been no secret that the greater part of making Dreams was making the creation tools, since they have to rely entire on them to create their game content rather than any internal dev tools. They can either hold back the release for 8 months, and I believe that's a generous estimate, to build an expansive 8 hour+ experience with what is essentially final, releasable code or get it in players' hands to get that flow of content creation going. There's almost no doubt that Media Molecule couldn't match even 1/10 of the community output once people get experienced with the tools, just by sheer numbers. And I do mean only counting quality content.
Can you recommend any content/creators to check out?Are you in the beta? If you aren't right now and you get in soon, check out the content and reconsider your points.
That one is easy. I've been putting some collections together but unlike other people, I've been very very picky. Just check my channel out if you get in. My collection is in no way 'the best' of course, and only represents what I consider the cream of the crop in terms of art and concept. I just think you're likely to at least see something that will blow your mind there, taking the time frame for these creations into consideration. They're wonderful. Start with Blue Marble Adventure.
Great Thanks. Is your PSN name the same?That one is easy. I've been putting some collections together but unlike other people, I've been very very picky. Just check my channel out if you get in. My collection is in no way 'the best' of course, and only represents what I consider the cream of the crop in terms of art and concept. I just think you're likely to at least see something that will blow your mind there, taking the time frame for these creations into consideration. They're wonderful.
a few more hours leading up to great disappointment. but dont give up hopes. if not today. next week(Best Jim Carey impression) "so you're telling me there's a chance?"
Great Thanks. Is your PSN name the same?
I'm in the beta still playing through the tutorials but the tools are amazing so far.
a few more hours leading up to great disappointment. but dont give up hopes. if not today. next week
Great Thanks. Is your PSN name the same?
I'm in the beta still playing through the tutorials but the tools are amazing so far.
are you talking about just puppet animation? yeah. i had that issue when i was first trying to animate stuff.Well got annoying work stuff done... now the whole weekend for dreams.
I'm a little annoyed that I can't figure out some of this animation stuff. I've been really struggling with understanding the basic rules. Like, why sometimes elements in my keyframes will be stuck (as if referencing edits made to past keyframes) on my timeline despite making every effort to isolate the current keyframe I'm working with. And why does it only happen randomly? I can create 4 - 5 frames without issue, but then suddenly in the next frames I cannot move elements because they're behaving as if there's a positional conflict. An hour or two into an animation timeline and I basically have to scrap it, because the model I'm trying to animate becomes stuck/janked/unresponsive seemingly randomly. I really need to figure this out. I've published very little because of these issues. And I really love animation and think it's something I'm good at. I would live to remix some of these popular characters on dreamiverse wity cool attacks, poses, jumps, etc... but it's one step forward two steps back atm.
I started with character gameplay animation. Basically nesting keyframes into the puppet logic. Only to realize I don't really have the logic chops to isolate these contextually layered animations. It's a little embarrassing but I guess I need a refresher on boolean. So I switched to animating characters on timelines. No logic to consider. But even then I'm having weirdness. Idk. I'm going to keep messing with it, hoping a "Oh that's how it works" light bulb goes off soon.are you talking about just puppet animation? yeah. i had that issue when i was first trying to animate stuff.
I started with character gameplay animation. Basically nesting keyframes into the puppet logic. Only to realize I don't really have the logic chops to isolate these contextually layered animations. It's a little embarrassing but I guess I need a refresher on boolean. So I switched to animating characters on timelines. No logic to consider. But even then I'm having weirdness. Idk. I'm going to keep messing with it, hoping a "Oh that's how it works" light bulb goes off soon.
It's wed, not mon? Weird wonder why I thought mon...
Monday EU and Wednesday NA.
check spam. because sony's known to send out plenty of "promo" emails and people just mark it as spam