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Everything You Need to Know about Dreams.

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Oct 28, 2017
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Kansas
Added $30 to my wallet so I won't have any additional processing time (Not sure what the "hype" levels are among the general populace, but I don't want to miss out).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Well, that should do it. :) Ha. I just had a week off so I can't take any more time off at the moment, but I'll try to download it from the Playstation Store online. I am EDT so it's 11:30am and I'll be at work.

Oh, do we get an EA OT?
Im lucky and my job lets you take your birthday as a paid “holiday” which just so happens to be a day from release so my boss didnt mind.

Goodluck to everyone getting in!
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,801
I know ill have it in my hands soon but i have 1 big question I havent been able to find an answer to.

I know I can connect a LOT of levels together to form large games but what are the limitations to connected levels?

Can I complete 50% of level A, jump to level B, 100% it, then with a new item gained in lvl B go back and finish A?

Can you make a metroid game where each region is its own level and jump back and forth between levels and retain progress made in each?
 
Can I complete 50% of level A, jump to level B, 100% it, then with a new item gained in lvl B go back and finish A?

Can you make a metroid game where each region is its own level and jump back and forth between levels and retain progress made in each?
Yes, but the ability to do that isn't automatic.

I don't remember if you can make a level's state persist between level loads, but any form of progress that should persist between levels can be stored as persistent variables. So you can have variables for whether x item was obtained or y blockade in whatever level was destroyed and so on. There's no built in inventory system or concept of "items," so that stuff will have to be created manually using logic and variables.

Moving between levels isn't a problem at all since levels don't necessarily have to have a linear order and doors can be made to go in either direction. IIRC all games (and every dream with more than 1 scene for that matter) come with a built in level select. The results of playing levels out of order can be a bit weird though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yes, but the ability to do that isn't automatic.

I don't remember if you can make a level's state persist between level loads, but any form of progress that should persist between levels can be stored as persistent variables. So you can have variables for whether x item was obtained or y blockade in whatever level was destroyed and so on. There's no built in inventory system or concept of "items," so that stuff will have to be created manually using logic and variables.

Moving between levels isn't a problem at all since levels don't necessarily have to have a linear order and doors can be made to go in either direction. IIRC all games (and every dream with more than 1 scene for that matter) come with a built in level select. The results of playing levels out of order can be a bit weird though.
Awesome! I’ll probably end up spending a good amount of time seeing the effects of jumping between levels with different variables before getting too deep into things.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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i can see my nephew and niece loving this thing, wondering if i should get this for them :/
how much is this early access being sold for? 40 usd?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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No time limit, but "space is limited". So even if you can't play until the 24th you might want to grab it on the 16th.
I wonder how they're handling this, do they have a system in place tied to PSN to stop further payments from processing after a certain number are bought? I mean since it isn't a beta sign up I assume if your order goes through then you're good to go and can install the client immediately. I assume we can dive in on the 16th and there isn't a future launch time also.
 
I wonder how they're handling this, do they have a system in place tied to PSN to stop further payments from processing after a certain number are bought? I mean since it isn't a beta sign up I assume if your order goes through then you're good to go and can install the client immediately. I assume we can dive in on the 16th and there isn't a future launch time also.
I assume they'll just announce a cut off date once they have idea of the rate the game is selling.

Internally, they must have a number in mind of how many copies they want to sell this early access
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Awesome! I’ll probably end up spending a good amount of time seeing the effects of jumping between levels with different variables before getting too deep into things.
The inventory/variables that you can pass from level to level are a finite size. Easiest to keep that low would be to use one bit per collectable/destroyable item to indicate "delete" then tag all the items with the unique bit code plus a "temp item" tag. On level load destroy all temp items that have the bit code set in inventory. Or something like that. But if you need to remember movable item (eg. roaming enemy) location the you need more space for the other attributes or just randomise again on re-entry.
 
The inventory/variables that you can pass from level to level are a finite size.
Do we even know what the limit on the number of variables is? Has anyone at MM said? Obviously there has to be a limit, but there's nothing that seems to indicate that there is one, so it might be crazy high. Storing multiple flags in a single variable seems like a good idea though, just in case.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm really excited to play. Shame they moved the potential release times from early morning to while I'm at work. Hopefully I wont run into any issues buying. I've been looking forward for a few weeks being able to play over the easter holidays all day.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I just realized that this is the first project MM has launched in a long time. Tearaway Unfolded was what, 2014? I'm really hoping sales of early access exceed their expectations, I'm sure development hasn't been easy and seeing a return for the passion they put in would be really nice.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Celle, Germany
I wonder how they're handling this,

Easy. They already announced that they have a huge number of slots for this early access and I also believe the number will be so huge, that it won't even get maxed out at all and they will rather end it after a specific time then having all slots sold.
That they have different timed releases, even days later in Japan as example confirms this theory a bit.

It's hilarious how many people act here like it's potentially gone after 10 minutes. I don't think they want this shitstorm. So they probably doubled or tripled the slots from the beta and when they see it's not going up anymore or 2 weeks past by then they end it.
 
Easy. They already announced that they have a huge number of slots for this early access and I also believe the number will be so huge, that it won't even get maxed out at all and they will rather end it after a specific time then having all slots sold.
That they have different timed releases, even days later in Japan as example confirms this theory a bit.

It's hilarious how many people act here like it's potentially gone after 10 minutes. I don't think they want this shitstorm. So they probably doubled or tripled the slots from the beta and when they see it's not going up anymore or 2 weeks past by then they end it.
i acted like this cause the beta was badly handed, not blaming media molecule of course, but considering what happened, it's legitimate to be affraid that you won't be able to get the early access if you have to wait 10 hours after release before being able to get it

But since i will be there for the release time, i'm happy, can't wait to buy it
 
Oct 25, 2017
8,114
Celle, Germany
i acted like this cause the beta was badly handed, not blaming media molecule of course, but considering what happened, it's legitimate to be affraid that you won't be able to get the early access if you have to wait 10 hours after release before being able to get it

But since i will be there for the release time, i'm happy, can't wait to buy it
Yeah and I get that, I also had these beta problems right to the very end where I finally came in at least. But up to that point I constantly wrote about every step they did wrong and how they constantly promised several people that they get in this Friday and then that Monday and then definitely the next Friday with many never being able to enter.

But here, I really think they will handle it differently. That theory doesn't even comes from me, someone else wrote that here months ago and it made so much sense that I strongly believe they do it that way. They said the slots number will be huge or gigantic or something like that and I do think (if they even have a real slot number at all) that they will only end it after a specific time so that enough people have enough time.
I even think that they will announce the end of the buyable early access a day prior or so, at some point and not just letting it disappear in the middle of the night.

I know they made a lot mistakes in the past but I think here they will handle it better. A double or triple number on expected entries alone would help to have this open for at least 2 weeks.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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As they never identified the underlying problem I have no faith in them handling things better this time. Hope they prove me wrong though.
I think you're just being paranoid really. It's a different system and it's pretty simple really. Buy it before they hit the limit. There's really no reason to expect that they'll hit the limit within a day, so unless you're unable to access the internet, it should be absolutely fine.
 
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