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Everything You Need to Know about Dreams.
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Yeah. That was the one. Also showed Book of the Dragon. I think I posted both of those at the same time.
Just got an email inviting me to the Beta, so still a chance guys. Looking forward to checking it out tonight.
you haven't been in the xbox x taco bell thread before. lol
I think a more logical reason is that the don't want the main input to depend on the camera. If you think ahead a little bit (and they already kind of hinted at a PS5 version of Dreams) it would make sense to design your main control option in a way that works without peripherals/accessories that might not be available on a new system. And I think it's save to assume that PS5 will not be using a camera for tracking any more.
Oh shit! One of my music bits was just on stream. String Beans!
Hell, a lot of us Resetters have been featured this time around. OgTheEnigma, NinjaTrouiLLe, and Calabi
Ooh, they just showed my creation, the transparent glass using the text tool. I feel kind of guilty, because it wasn't originally my idea, but I just wanted to make an easy remixable version. :(
its a really clever idea. i forget you can use other gadgets in other ways. lol
So I still have a chance...I already missed the EU train apparently...
They could make it better with the camera while still working without.
You should be, now go make some stuff...in our name! Go, young one and liiiiive
Even after that thermometer explanation, I'm still having trouble understanding why stretching costs a lot. And I think it's very unnatural for the user. Like why not make the stretch tool just clone a bunch of copies behind the scenes, but look like a stretch to the user?
theres no real export other than make a music file from a video file.
haven't watched but was he stretching during sculpt mode?
during sculpt mode it retains the fleck size. but if you were to stretch that outside that mode it would make the fleck size bigger but shouldn't eat up thermo. stretching that inside the sculpt mode eats up the thermo.
My lights and butterflies were shown on the New Year's Resolutions. :D
Congrats NinjaTrouiLLe for the house being featured!
Congrats NinjaTrouiLLe for the house being featured!
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Someone answered me about the missing codes in the beta forum:
Twitter Sony support also told me to contact MM. Well, fantastic, guess I can at least "enjoy" the beta forum. 🤷♂️
Twitter Sony support also told me to contact MM. Well, fantastic, guess I can at least "enjoy" the beta forum. 🤷♂️
Because that would only work with hyperrectangles and only for specific sizes?
Yes it is a bit counter-intuitive that simple shapes can take more thermo than seemingly more complex ones. Their optimization tool to reduce detail for shapes that don't need it because e.g. they were created the wrong way by stretching in create looks neat though.
Also many games in the stream showcased level linking which is nearly instantaneous. Making big dense games will not be a problem I think.
They showed some cool stuff. I want to do an animation test with dynamic (moving) trigger zones driving keyframe animation responses on a player controlled puppet. So just for example: an enemy attack (melee, projectile, whatever) is a moving, dynamic trigger zone, and if the player presses the right inputs while contacting that trigger, it will result in a dodge or something. If that works, then it's time to follow it down the rabbit hole. I already have some ideas about how that could work on a puppet.
Could also work the other way around? Make the player a triggerzone and anything that enters (depending on what) could trigger an action?
Polish of the games have gone significantly up since last stream! I am very relieved to see characters with very neat animations and tight gameplay.
That platformer with imp as the main character <3
Also that game with the Greek columns was very funny!
What a thrill it will be to dream surf and be surprised by all these cool ideas.
That platformer with imp as the main character <3
Also that game with the Greek columns was very funny!
What a thrill it will be to dream surf and be surprised by all these cool ideas.
Yep. Could be applied either way. The enemy attack thing was just a quick hypothetical. What actually got me thinking of this was wondering how someone might do the iconic stealth kill camera shots in Tenchu. Those are relatively static, but then I was like, "Well if that worked... what else would".
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didn't get any code.... they better send me one on monday... dammit i hate my luck, i never get in those things!
Yeah I'm in the beta, I understand the workarounds. I just think the current workflow is unhelpful in terms of these issues. A good UI should dissuade things which are bad decisions and offer guidance towards good decisions, but Dreams kinds of lets you do whatever and then you have to figure out why you've spent half your thermo on a mailbox.
I think for them it's second nature after several years working with it, but for new users it's like ..."u wot mate". I think there could be some UX improvements there.
So stretching in sculpt mode = bad. Stretching outside of sculpt mode not as costly. I kind of get that.
But they were also alluding to increasing the size of a sculpt in sculpt mode would have a similar effect as stretching....like combining shapes to make a more complex shape since that makes the sculpt larger. Is there a way around this? Plop down a bounding shape that is larger than what you anticipate your final sculpt to be and then cut into that? If you then add shapes to that cut sculpt and stay within the original bounding shape would you not experience this "virtual paper size duplication" they mentioned in the stream that causes the thermo to increase so much when stretching?
But they were also alluding to increasing the size of a sculpt in sculpt mode would have a similar effect as stretching....like combining shapes to make a more complex shape since that makes the sculpt larger. Is there a way around this? Plop down a bounding shape that is larger than what you anticipate your final sculpt to be and then cut into that? If you then add shapes to that cut sculpt and stay within the original bounding shape would you not experience this "virtual paper size duplication" they mentioned in the stream that causes the thermo to increase so much when stretching?
i just watched that section. were people really doing the first method? also i think that's going to be the one thing people will run into the first time. thermo issue.
Yeah, it reminded me of the ceiling of a concert hall I've been to, really cool.
They didn't happen to show a Move controller or pirate ship, did they? I'm xenorevlis on PSN heh
They showed a functional DS4 controller. No pirate ship, but a pirate lass, and she was my favorite model. Very cute design with simple but nice animation.
Well I know that whenever I get my hands on Dreams I will not stress about thermo use and stretching in/out of create mode. I'll just use the optimization tool whenever the thermo is full. Perhaps using clone tool is the only thing to keep in mind.
Unless someone in the beta says otherwise, stretching in sculpt mode then reducing detail with the optimization tool or stretching outside of sculpt mode directly should end up being more or less the same.
I think a good analogy is say you create a square in Dreams, see that as creating a 32x32 image. Then you stretch it in create mode this is like making it a 512x512 image which takes up a lot more memory/thermo space. Whereas if you stretch it outside create mode this is like keeping your 32x32 image but just rendering an up-scaled version. The upscaled 32x32 image is a lot less detailed than the native 512x512 image but since it is just a square you don't see a big difference between the upscaled image and the hi-res image. The hi-res image is overly detailed for what it is and needs to be compressed. This is the optimization tool that shows you which object consumes most of the memory. It is up to you to decide whether it is justified or not.
TLDR; Don't worry about stretching. Use the optimization tool when your thermo is full.
Unless someone in the beta says otherwise, stretching in sculpt mode then reducing detail with the optimization tool or stretching outside of sculpt mode directly should end up being more or less the same.
I think a good analogy is say you create a square in Dreams, see that as creating a 32x32 image. Then you stretch it in create mode this is like making it a 512x512 image which takes up a lot more memory/thermo space. Whereas if you stretch it outside create mode this is like keeping your 32x32 image but just rendering an up-scaled version. The upscaled 32x32 image is a lot less detailed than the native 512x512 image but since it is just a square you don't see a big difference between the upscaled image and the hi-res image. The hi-res image is overly detailed for what it is and needs to be compressed. This is the optimization tool that shows you which object consumes most of the memory. It is up to you to decide whether it is justified or not.
TLDR; Don't worry about stretching. Use the optimization tool when your thermo is full.
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