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Fancy Clown

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not crazy about the blob remake tbh. The effects are great, but the story is a little too hokey for its own good and kills off potentially interesting characters faster than it can introduce them.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Darn tootin', OP.

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More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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The best thing about the remake are the practical effects and the ungodly amount of blood spilled in the film. It's kind of amazing

But yeah, it has a jarring disjointed tone. Sometimes it wants to super grim and serious, other times wanting to be darkly comic over-the-top style of the original. The tones never really mesh and it hurts the overall film
 

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
62,222
The best thing about the remake are the practical effects and the ungodly amount of blood spilled in the film. It's kind of amazing

But yeah, it has a jarring disjointed tone. Sometimes it wants to super grim and serious, other times wanting to be darkly comic over-the-top style of the original. The tones never really mesh and it hurts the overall film

Horror and comedy are two of the hardest genres to pull off, let alone do them well. Horrorcomedies are trying to do both at once.
 

More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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My thoughts on the movie when I rewatched it in October. The original Evil Dead remains my favorite of the series
This remake/re-imagining was interesting to revisit after having finally seen the original. Dispensing with both the comedic undertones of the first movie and full-fledged horror-comedy of the sequel, Evil Dead 2013 is brutal gory horror teetering on "torture porn" with its copious amounts of self-inflicted mutilation. I've seen slashers where the walls, floors, and ceiling are red by the end but this movie gives The Shining a run for its money for the amount of blood that pours here.

Besides the improved gore and effects here, one area where this remake does succeed more is using the geography of the cabin and surrounding woods more effectively; from the marsh outside to between the walls, I felt like Evil Dead 2013 explored the setting well, using each area for interesting sequences. Despite that, the original had a much eerier atmosphere. The cabin here could be any old cabin on a campground somewhere while the cabin in the original feels like an isolated nightmare of a place surrounded by oppressive fog and darkness

Raimi's horror classic was also the more entertaining and cohesive film. This new one tries to develop the characters more, subvert expectations with its protagonists, and inject some new lore but that just ended up making the movie slower-paced and less focused. A major strength of the original was how relentless its pacing was; we got a sense of the characters in the first five minutes and the rest was just increasing insanity as they tried to survive till sunrise. The remake also splits up the characters more, giving them separate set-pieces and gross moments, compared to the original where the group feels surrounded and besieged by evil, their number dwindling and turning against the others...one by one

The comedic campy vein of the original better suited the possessed's gleeful taunting nature as well; they were having fun with their victims. Whereas in this remake, the taunting feels kind of jarring compared to the movie's straight-forward tone and focus on mutilation. Is this evil trying to make them hurt themselves and kill each other or is it a devilishly playful evil that delights in psychological torment? In the original, the latter was crystal clear while here, the movie wavers back and forth depending on the scene.

(Oh, and just throwing in "one by one, we will take you" like that is the definition of a lazy homage)
 

More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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Horror and comedy are two of the hardest genres to pull off, let alone do them well. Horrorcomedies are trying to do both at once.
New Zealand seems to have an amazing knack for them. Braindead, Housebound, and What We Do In The Shadows are all some of the best horror-comedies I've seen. I remember enjoying Black Sheep as well
 

Sagroth

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Oct 28, 2017
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I agree with multiple other posters in that I think there are good arguments to be made for both The Fly and The Thing (the former being my personal fav).

The latest Evil Dead is quite good, but...
Evil Dead 2 is the best Evil Dead remake.

I'm with Rassilon here.

Edit: I forgot about the 80's The Blob remake!
 

Bonefish

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Oct 28, 2017
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Yeah, I really liked it.

The extended cut is even gorier, though for some reason it took a long time to get released in the US. It even has the scene of Mia singing under the floorboards that was in the trailer/commercials but not in the film
 

Rygar1126

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm not saying it's anywhere near the best, but the remake of The Crazies from 2010 is also better than you would probably expect.
 

PanzerKraken

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Nov 1, 2017
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Evil Dead 2 is not a remake. They couldn't secure the rights to the footage of the first film so they created a recap of the 1st with a bunch of new actors and had to reshoot bunch of scenes, so it came off odd to start how it did and confused folks, but it was always a sequel.
 

Mariachi507

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Oct 26, 2017
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The Thing, The Fly, and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Evil Dead is ok, but it doesn't sniff the greatness of the big three. Quite honestly, it doesn't even come close to the original Evil Dead, or its sequel for that matter.

I was impressed by the Maniac remake a few years back, I need to revisit it to see how it holds up.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The Evil Dead REmake has really grown on me over the years. It's really good.

The Thing or The Fly are the best horror remakes though. Night of The Living Dead and The Hills Have Eyes are incredibly underrated.
 

Zetta

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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The Thing, The Fly, The Blob in that order and as said before Evil Dead 2 is the best remake to Evil Dead.
 

ZackieChan

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Oct 27, 2017
8,056
You fucked up by saying it was "the best" instead of just making a thread about how cool it is. Now 95% of the replies are about other movies. Way to go OP - time to reboot this thread :)
Loved the movie. Really wild and good time.
 

andrew

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Oct 25, 2017
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The thread has gotten off track with the (correct) assertion of the superiority of The Fly and The Thing. But the '13 Evil Dead is pretty good. Great gore and practical effects and Jane Levy is awesome. Wish they could've made another, though Ash vs Evil Dead turned out kinda fun anyway.

Don't Breathe is good too, no idea why they're doing a sequel though.
New Zealand seems to have an amazing knack for them. Braindead, Housebound, and What We Do In The Shadows are all some of the best horror-comedies I've seen. I remember enjoying Black Sheep as well
Agh I need to rewatch brain dead. That movie is so good
 

Cipher Peon

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Oct 25, 2017
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While I think The Fly (1986) is the greatest live action film of all time, and therefore best remake... Evil Dead (2013) comes close.

Evil Dead (2013) has my favorite cinematography in all of cinema, has PERFECT tone and pacing, and a fantastic story with one of the best endings in any work of art. It's easily a 10/10 masterpiece and infinitely rewatchable. Oh and best in the series, easily.
 

GLHFGodbless

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Oct 27, 2017
1,285
To this day I am baffled that anyone likes this movie. I saw it in theaters and thought it was absolutely dreadful, like, approaching avatar the last air bender levels of bad. It started off decent enough but descended into pretty by the numbers horror movie slush. Super disappointing in every way. Yuck

No seriously, the praise this movie gets is baffling.
 

Kasey

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Nov 1, 2017
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Boise
Man, all the good ones are taken. Unlike other genres, horror has had really good luck with remakes:

Evil Dead
The Thing
The Blob
The Fly
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Hills Have Eyes
The Last House on the Left
I Spit on your Grave
Piranha
Dawn of the Dead
Let Me In
Halloween (if you're in the mood for it)

Even some of the remakes of the real campy Castle-type movies ended up being a fun enough watch:

The House on Haunted Hill
House of Wax
13 Ghosts
Texas Chainsaw remake suuuuuuucked.
 

asmith906

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Oct 27, 2017
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As much as I enjoy the evil dead remake after rewatching all 3 films I actually enjoyed the original the most.
 

More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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As much as I enjoy the evil dead remake after rewatching all 3 films I actually enjoyed the original the most.
Same. What I found most impressive with The Evil Dead was how confident it felt, in its film making and cinematography, in the go-for-broke imagery and blood and gore. The "people encounter bad things in a cabin in the woods" story is a well-trodden one now but Evil Dead's onslaught of horrors and atmosphere elevates it above most others.

The escalation and relentless pacing is just wonderful. We get a quick sketch of the characters and their personalities and then they're dropped into the movie's bloody gauntlet that gets more intense and wild as the cast shrinks. By the end, the evil is so pervasive that the cabin itself becomes tainted.

One hell of an entertaining movie, up there with Texas Chainsaw Massacre as a work of low-budget horror that's punching way above its weight class and is far more effective than its imitators would be
 

jon bones

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Oct 25, 2017
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I love the Evil Dead movies, including this wonderful reboot. Gory as shit... kind of want to rewatch it now
 

Stinkles

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Oct 25, 2017
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Has anyone said "The Thing?"

Has anyone posted a gif they probably know is obscure but were smug enough to think was the right thing to do?
one guy did
 

asmith906

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Oct 27, 2017
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Same. What I found most impressive with The Evil Dead was how confident it felt, in its film making and cinematography, in the go-for-broke imagery and blood and gore. The "people encounter bad things in a cabin in the woods" story is a well-trodden one now but Evil Dead's onslaught of horrors and atmosphere elevates it above most others.

The escalation and relentless pacing is just wonderful. We get a quick sketch of the characters and their personalities and then they're dropped into the movie's bloody gauntlet that gets more intense and wild as the cast shrinks. By the end, the evil is so pervasive that the cabin itself becomes tainted.

One hell of an entertaining movie, up there with Texas Chainsaw Massacre as a work of low-budget horror that's punching way above its weight class and is far more effective than its imitators would be
Also, I was actually surprised at how much i disliked the 3rd movie compared to the first two. It's not bad but it's wasn't even a horror movie anymore. They went a bit too far with the comedy
 

More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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The Thing isn't really a remake. It's a different take on the source material.

So yeah, I might give this one to Evil Dead '13. It's an excellent movie.
More so than The Blob? Blob perfectly nails its balance of wholesome 50s horror homage and utterly horrific gore, while Evil Dead 2013's tone feels all over the place and never confident in exactly what kind of movie it wants to be.

The Blob deserves extra points IMO just for taking such a silly movie monster and making it terrifying
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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I agree with The Thing, but this is my chance to use this gif and I'm taking it.

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CaviarMeths

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Oct 25, 2017
10,655
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More so than The Blob? Blob perfectly nails its balance of wholesome 50s horror homage and utterly horrific gore, while Evil Dead 2013's tone feels all over the place and never confident in exactly what kind of movie it wants to be.

The Blob deserves extra points IMO just for taking such a silly movie monster and making it terrifying
Haven't seen The Blob, actually. I'll have to check it out.

I disagree that Evil Dead was all over the place though. It's a pretty straight-forward horror movie with a little bit of camp. Not unlike the original film (but very unlike Evil Dead 2).
 

Z-Beat

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think The Thing (1982), The Fly (1986), and The Blob (1988) have it beat but it's definitely the best in the past decade
 

Infernostew

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Oct 25, 2017
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Haven't seen The Blob remake (I know, it's long overdue) but The Thing and The Fly are king when it comes to horror remakes. The Evil Dead remake was just awful. I had to apologize to my brother for dragging him to the theater to see it. I think I may have paid for his dinner to make things right.
 

RedStep

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Oct 27, 2017
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Texas Chainsaw remake suuuuuuucked.

It's okay that you feel that way, but there's not much there to respond to. It brought a dead series from an afterthought back into modern horror and made triple (~$107m) any other movie in the series to that point (and still is the top). So... unless you wanted Leatherface 2: Texas Chainsaw Massacre 4: Electric Boogaloo, not sure what you were looking for.
 

TheBeardedOne

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Oct 27, 2017
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Derry
The first Texas Chainsaw remake was decent, but the series that followed was not anywhere close to decent. It was cringeworthy.
 

Kasey

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Nov 1, 2017
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It's okay that you feel that way, but there's not much there to respond to. It brought a dead series from an afterthought back into modern horror and made triple (~$107m) any other movie in the series to that point (and still is the top). So... unless you wanted Leatherface 2: Texas Chainsaw Massacre 4: Electric Boogaloo, not sure what you were looking for.
I wanted a good movie. Not a movie about Texas that opens with 'Sweet Home Alabama', cribs from Deliverance, features a pro wrestler Leatherface, and worst of all removes the cannibalism. They didn't understand their source.

I don't care how much money it made.
 

RedStep

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Oct 27, 2017
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I wanted a good movie. Not a movie about Texas that opens with 'Sweet Home Alabama', cribs from Deliverance, features a pro wrestler Leatherface, and worst of all removes the cannibalism. They didn't understand their source.

I don't care how much money it made.

The first Texas Chainsaw remake was decent, but the series that followed was not anywhere close to decent. It was cringeworthy.

And that's fine, but... after TCM2, Leatherface: TCM3, and TCM: The Next Generation, do you really think it was a step down? Do you like any of those? The TCM remake brought the series back into modern consciousness. My personal opinion is that TCM: The Beginning was a step down, TC3D was a travesty and Leatherface is an interesting little sidenote. But none of those are worse than what TCM: The Next Generation 2 would have been which is some campy direct-to-video nonsense.

I'm a big fan too and it's a sad state currently, but that remake is the biggest bump the series has had since the original. I think it's hard to argue that point.

Personally as a fan of a horror series (Elm Street and F13 and Halloween included), I'll take something that's not perfect but keeps the series alive for the next round as opposed to the perfect nothing that is in my brain but doesn't exist. Jason X included.
 
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TheBeardedOne

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Oct 27, 2017
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And that's fine, but... after TCM2, Leatherface: TCM3, and TCM: The Next Generation, do you really think it was a step down? Do you like any of those? The TCM remake brought the series back into modern consciousness. My personal opinion is that TCM: The Beginning was a step down, TC3D was a travesty and Leatherface is an interesting little sidenote. But none of those are worse than what TCM: The Next Generation 2 would have been which is some campy direct-to-video nonsense.

I'm a big fan too and it's a sad state currently, but that remake is the biggest bump the series has had since the original. I think it's hard to argue that point.

Personally as a fan of a horror series (Elm Street and F13 and Halloween included), I'll take something that's not perfect but keeps the series alive for the next round as opposed to the perfect nothing that is in my brain but doesn't exist. Jason X included.

I liked the first one a lot, also always enjoy Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 and liked the remake. Leatherface was horrible and so was TCM: The Next Generation.
 

RumbleHumble

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Oct 27, 2017
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OP dun goofed. Straight up missing like 3-4 remakes that rank in the classics of horror cinema. We forgive you, OP, go watch those remakes.

Also, yes, Evil Dead (2013) is actually pretty solid.
 

ClickyCal'

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Oct 25, 2017
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Excluding the already said obvious ones, I think dawn of the dead and the hills have eyes are great remakes too.