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EVO reveals final entrants number per fighting game for its 2019 edition
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Whatever capcom's been saving for....what is it, 8 months? Is probably going to underwhelm but I'll keep my fingers crossed. Also hoping for itazan or fuudo taking home the championship this year!
The way he's talked about it I doubt he'd ever miss Evo.
I don't know, I always thought they did pretty well on their first year. They definitely don't seem to retain numbers as well as other mainstays though.
NRS games have the most toxic community and bi-yearly releases pretty much kill any chances of them maturing and retaining players like SF/Tekken.
Bandai finally got db right for the first time in years and they squander the momentum. Oh well. Surprised about the sam sho numbers.
samsho is easier to watch for an onlooker not into fighting games. Asking someone new to fighting games to watch combo juggling games or the versus games or smash will just make them confused. That's the reason why i hate watching MvC3 back then....it's so confusing with the assist popping all over the place (especially when both players used the same assists).
2 people clashing swords with each other in a 2D plane....can't get any more less confusing on a casual onlooker.
The game has been out of arcades for over 2 years, yet Tekken 7 just keeps on getting more popular. It must be a strong brand internationally. Given how sparse the single player is, lots of people must be online junkies/lean towards the hardcore end of the scale.
I have to wonder how they're going to keep that momentum going to Tekken 8, after all the restructuring NB just did. They aren't coming off of tag 2 driving folks away - the foreign stream monster hype train slow rollout is old hat. Green Arcade is gone, and others are following. Salivating over hands off streams for another 2 year stint will be a huge letdown.
At the same time, the direct to home route can be all over the place: sf5s rough yet pretty dominate ride, kof doing ok on PS4 at the expenses of a late PC port that could have been saved with crossplay, ex layer not learning from that same mistake and farting off into the ether, all of the anime titles coming out strong on more than one platform and then having these much lower numbers a year later, guilty wearing people out with arcsys multi release bullshit. Scvi could be doing better given its fine job of being on everything but the switch, but it's a different brand with a different audience that's been away for awhile. The new star child Unist getting by here on the back of it's fans is cool as shit, but it's series also has had a hellish home release+late steam port schedule since forever - and now there's gonna be another goddamn version, with another goddamn late steam port (if any!!!).
I have to wonder how they're going to keep that momentum going to Tekken 8, after all the restructuring NB just did. They aren't coming off of tag 2 driving folks away - the foreign stream monster hype train slow rollout is old hat. Green Arcade is gone, and others are following. Salivating over hands off streams for another 2 year stint will be a huge letdown.
At the same time, the direct to home route can be all over the place: sf5s rough yet pretty dominate ride, kof doing ok on PS4 at the expenses of a late PC port that could have been saved with crossplay, ex layer not learning from that same mistake and farting off into the ether, all of the anime titles coming out strong on more than one platform and then having these much lower numbers a year later, guilty wearing people out with arcsys multi release bullshit. Scvi could be doing better given its fine job of being on everything but the switch, but it's a different brand with a different audience that's been away for awhile. The new star child Unist getting by here on the back of it's fans is cool as shit, but it's series also has had a hellish home release+late steam port schedule since forever - and now there's gonna be another goddamn version, with another goddamn late steam port (if any!!!).
I'll admit, while I wasn't upset by Melee's exclusion (there's already a ton of great tournaments this summer without Evo), I didn't think it would be a good business decision. All of the new games are performing really well though, so this was probably a net gain for them. I don't expect we'll ever see Melee back, but I'm happy for the other communities that are showing up and getting a spotlight.
Evo still feels weird to me without Melee, Marvel, or Guilty Gear, but I'll still tune in for some top 8's throughout the weekend. This should be a fun year.
Evo still feels weird to me without Melee, Marvel, or Guilty Gear, but I'll still tune in for some top 8's throughout the weekend. This should be a fun year.
That's what happens when you don't have faith in a game and don't do any sort of pro tour and skimp on post-release development.
Okubo deserves better.
i mean those are all huge money sinks that probably not convert into sales all that much. don't blame them.
Seriously. It's the best Soul Calibur ever. It delivers a total package. It's numbers and MK11's numbers are a real bummer to me.
What kind of numbers were people expecting? Enough to get Top 3?
Amazed at ShamSho given how new it is and there is no real community around it in the US.
Incredible how Tekken 7's base keeps growing. A testament in how well they've handled the season pass.
DBFZ and BCTB are the obvious shockers, but I didn't expect SF5 to get sub 2000 numbers already. Capcom needs to announce a new season pass/SF6 and fast.
MK cans can at least be happy that this will be their largest tournament yet. Same with SC6, though it missed out in the 1000 club.
SamSho and UNIST fans can do the same. I believe this would make it the largest SNK and anime games if all time. Would not have expected that from those who games.
Smash Ultimate took care of business as expected. Maybe then we will get a clear picture of the meta.
DBFZ and BCTB are the obvious shockers, but I didn't expect SF5 to get sub 2000 numbers already. Capcom needs to announce a new season pass/SF6 and fast.
MK cans can at least be happy that this will be their largest tournament yet. Same with SC6, though it missed out in the 1000 club.
SamSho and UNIST fans can do the same. I believe this would make it the largest SNK and anime games if all time. Would not have expected that from those who games.
Smash Ultimate took care of business as expected. Maybe then we will get a clear picture of the meta.
Waiting for the PC version, so I've been ignoring the game. How bad is the online for Samsho?
Everything about how poorly Arc have handled BBTAG pointed to this massive drop being expected, from the all but nonexistent communication to the massive wait while they kept the major update exclusive to the JP-only arcade release.
It's honestly the best MK ever made, but the top 7 have some really strange design decisions in a neutral based game like this. It's seriously off putting that a patch to fix the crazy damage and krushing blows some kharacters have. Not talking about any balancing or silly moves but they're in there also.
Smash HAS to go last on Sunday. With this number of entrants, and the pace of the game, it is going to be delay galore. At least don't delay the other games, put Smash last, and let them have the finals until Monday morning.
Ultimate is killing it in the competitive scene it seems, I wonder if it's only because it's new or because the pro players feel that is far better than Smash U (or a combination of both).
And yeah, surprised to see DBFZ that low, and how Tekken 7 is closing the gap with SFV. I will only see the entire Smash finals, but I'll take a look at some other games like Unist this year.
And yeah, surprised to see DBFZ that low, and how Tekken 7 is closing the gap with SFV. I will only see the entire Smash finals, but I'll take a look at some other games like Unist this year.
It's only Top 8 on Sunday. Friday and Saturday are going to be insane, though.
Smash finals still take 3 hours to go through, so they should be last. Ain't nobody got time to stay up until the wee hours for dry runbacks.
There's a few things that are basically known to be in the works like a new King of Fighters and a new Under-Night but I don't think those will make this year.
Oh and some of smaller releases that were in some form of early access. (Fantasy Strike, Them's Fightin' Herds, Metal Revolution maybe)
You can expect basically every franchise to have news at EVO , it'll probably mostly be more characters/seasons for everything though.
I agree that Top 8 will run late, but the number of entrants won't affect Sunday's total time.
Shame about Fighterz, what happens when you don't support the game enough I guess :(
Shame as I really enjoy it. Hoping for a Season 3, but 2 has been underwhelming sadly.
Cool and not so surprising to see SSB top the list ha. Also nice to see Tekken stay pretty consistent.
Shame as I really enjoy it. Hoping for a Season 3, but 2 has been underwhelming sadly.
Cool and not so surprising to see SSB top the list ha. Also nice to see Tekken stay pretty consistent.
Really wishing they release a balance patch for Samsho before Evo. Otherwise its Tam Tam vs Genjuro.
It'd be nice if we could get these numbers broken down into geographic location. I'd like to know how many players are coming in from which countries.
What is up with MK11? Did the tournament scene not pick it up? That is the most surprising number for me here. It's behind SamSho!
I'm really shocked at Samsho, that's crazy numbers for an SNK franchise, right? Now if only they had released the game with a PC version since it's the year 2019, maybe I would be more invested.
FighterZ would always get a drop-off but this big is mostly due to incompetence/poor choices from Bandai: waiting months to announce the World Tour and when you do it, 80% of the tournaments are unannounced, only a single balance patch for the whole season, DLC coming out very slowly with players starving for news...
FighterZ would always get a drop-off but this big is mostly due to incompetence/poor choices from Bandai: waiting months to announce the World Tour and when you do it, 80% of the tournaments are unannounced, only a single balance patch for the whole season, DLC coming out very slowly with players starving for news...
My guess is that FighterZ surpassed UNIST very recently and Mr.Wizard used the order he had for all the months before. FighterZ only broke 1000 two days after UNIST.
That would be really cool to see. Even broken down by game, I would really like to see the West/Japan divide in some of these games.
Final day is top 8 only, so it doesn't matter how big the tournament is.
edit: Sorry, already been mentioned.
I'm all for it but dropping Evo numbers has to be the last of their concerns.
If Saturday runs late, then Smash had better be last on Sunday so the Top 8 players have a chance to rest up before showtime.
You hotbox an arena full of players but instead of pot smoke it's just stench. Whoever survives to daybreak goes to finals after being fumigated.