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Deleted member 20850 · Mar 16, 2019

Zimmiwood said:
I agree that the overall message in the game would challenge vergils perception rather than reinforce it, but just the choice alone to equate feelings and sensitivity with females is tiring in itself. And to top it off? She would end up "sacrificing" herself "for a man". Just nah to all of it.

And I suppose there is also the point V is weak himself and the demons do the fighting for him. Playing into another trope if he was a woman.

Maybe the story would have to be rewritten more for female V. Or just make Trish or Lady playable instead of what they did with them.

I am just disappointed a female playable character was in the cards and they decided against it.

correojon · Mar 16, 2019

I haven´t played the game yet, but from what I´ve seen maybe their reason of not making V be a woman was to differentiate it from Bayonetta? You know, sexy slim woman in black who uses summons to fight. Have they said anything about why V was finally a man?

Deleted member 679 · Mar 16, 2019

The game makes it very clear that

Vergil is better when whole, that he was completely wrong in thinking his human side was holding him back. So even if female V was separated for being weak and holding the man back, without changing a single thing about the story the message would still be that he's wrong, and that his human/feminine side is just as important.

I do think it could work. Add to that a different name than fucking V, and they could actually have a mystery people wouldn't solve with a couple of trailers. Why would people assume this edgy summoner woman with a different name based on William Blake's works is a part of Vergil?

That all being said, considering how V's story ended, I do think a new character with a moveset built on the same basis is better for the series going forward. It's very easy to explain by just retconning that the book itself holds powers, and Nero gives it to some already powerful woman to read, and she learns to summon shit with it. Hell, they could make her summons inspired on Blake's works instead of DMC1.

Rendering... said:
These look so cool. Female V would have been awesome.

I wish some of these alternate costumes and haircuts were available in-game. I would pay good money for tank top or shirtless Nero. I shouldn't have to, but I absolutely would.

I like that Dante in the black shirt.

This stuff is too cool to leave on the cutting room floor.

Yeah, absolutely, and I wouldn't even be mad about it. I understand how much work can go into making a new model in this engine, I'd be ok with paying for it.

TyrantGuardian · Mar 16, 2019

Oh man, female V would have been so cool thematically, wow! Also that first Nero concept literally makes him look like his pops lmfao (no this is not a spoiler, get out).

Deleted member 679 · Mar 16, 2019

Amevila said:
I am just disappointed a female playable character was in the cards and they decided against it.

It wasn't:

PhilbyTheGreat said:
I was at the panel today. Daigo Ikeno came up with some fun concept drawings after the designs for Nero, Dante, and V were finalised. This was one of them (as was female V).

Itsuno said he loved the designs, but seemed exasperated that Ikeno always did this after they had the final designs. He did say he liked them so much that they might use them in future, but it sounded like it was unlikely to happen.

Which can be seen as a good thing, since it actually makes it more likely for that design (or some variation) to come back than if it was discarded during development.

Rendering... · Mar 16, 2019

Gbraga said:
Yeah, absolutely, and I wouldn't even be mad about it. I understand how much work can go into making a new model in this engine, I'd be ok with paying for it.

Didn't I read that the real life models for the characters were torso scanned? Why let all of that valuable data go to waste?

pbayne · Mar 16, 2019

Im glad we got the V we got

Yes to that desperado looking scarf Dante

Deleted member 679 · Mar 16, 2019

Rendering... said:
Didn't I read that the real life models for the characters were torso scanned? Why let all of that valuable data go to waste?

Yeah, there's a naked mod for V that shows he has tattoos on his torso. They don't look great, mind you, since they weren't intended to be seen without the coat, but it's not like those models have invisible torsos when you remove the clothes. Costume like Dante without the jacket or shirtless Nero with jacket on should be pretty easy for them to make.

Zomba13 · Mar 16, 2019

While I think a female character would be cool, I don't think V would've been the right one considering the story and how they fight. What with V being physically weak, letting the demons do the fighting for them and some other spoilery stuff. If V was female then you'd get a lot of "why is the only playable female character a weakling that lets others fight for her" and then some spoilery bits.

I absolutely agree though that Trish and Lady should've at least done more and not just jobbed hard to be saved by the men, especially after they were playable in DMC4SE and kicked so much ass.
Would be cool for the female V concept to come back in the future to be used for another character, especailly if the demon/cane style was just a weapon they had and they also could do some cool combos and actual fighting as opposed to just the finishing blow.

Rendering... · Mar 16, 2019

Gbraga said:
Yeah, there's a naked mod for V that shows he has tattoos on his torso. They don't look great, mind you, since they weren't intended to be seen without the coat, but it's not like those models have invisible torsos when you remove the clothes. Costume like Dante without the jacket or shirtless Nero with jacket on should be pretty easy for them to make.

Nero sporting the DMC3 Dante look with a shirtless jacket would be better than nothing, I guess.

With how gorgeous this new graphics engine looks, I was hoping for some serious eye candy in this game. How ironic that DmC with its homophobic design influence has the hottest male imagery in the series.

Deleted member 679 · Mar 16, 2019

Rendering... said:
Nero sporting the DMC3 Dante look with a shirtless jacket would be better than nothing, I guess.

With how gorgeous this new graphics engine looks, I was hoping for some serious eye candy in this game. How ironic that DmC with its homophobic design influence has the hottest male imagery in the series.

Yeah, and those van scenes before starting the mission would be a great place to include some of that, maybe Nero walking around shirtless while preparing his stuff for combat.

Or even better, since he's such a good boy in this game, have him ironing his jacket while shirtless before a mission, that would be so cute.

Rendering... · Mar 16, 2019

Gbraga said:
Yeah, and those van scenes before starting the mission would be a great place to include some of that, maybe Nero walking around shirtless while preparing his stuff for combat.

Or even better, since he's such a good boy in this game, have him ironing his jacket while shirtless before a mission, that would be so cute.

Oh my god, how delightful. I want all of that.

Vespa · Mar 16, 2019

Make a DMC5 artbook filled with only Ikeno's concept art pls

Zimmiwood · Mar 16, 2019

Gbraga said:
Yeah, and those van scenes before starting the mission would be a great place to include some of that, maybe Nero walking around shirtless while preparing his stuff for combat.

Or even better, since he's such a good boy in this game, have him ironing his jacket while shirtless before a mission, that would be so cute.

that's.............actually.........really adorable lmao
how do we pitch this to capcom

Amevila said:
And I suppose there is also the point V is weak himself and the demons do the fighting for him. Playing into another trope if he was a woman.

Maybe the story would have to be rewritten more for female V. Or just make Trish or Lady playable instead of what they did with them.

I am just disappointed a female playable character was in the cards and they decided against it.

yeah dw, totally get where you're coming from. not having either trish or lady playable was pretty disappointing
it would have been great if it were done in the game itself, but if they could at least get some form of dlc that would already go a long way

Deleted member 679 · Mar 16, 2019

Zimmiwood said:
that's.............actually.........really adorable lmao
how do we pitch this to capcom

It would be the best if it actually happened, hahaha.

Nero is really adorable in this game. There are some really cute pictures you can unlock on a second playthrough, did you check them out? For S ranking Mission 1 you get a bunch of those crew cut soldiers all happy and thanking Nero for helping them, and for S ranking Mission 2 you get a picture of Nero looking all confused, when the picture you get just for completing the mission for the second time with any rank is Goliath with "all brawn, no brains" written on it, lmao.

Zimmiwood · Mar 16, 2019

Gbraga said:
It would be the best if it actually happened, hahaha.

Nero is really adorable in this game. There are some really cute pictures you can unlock on a second playthrough, did you check them out? For S ranking Mission 1 you get a bunch of those crew cut soldiers all happy and thanking Nero for helping them, and for S ranking Mission 2 you get a picture of Nero looking all confused, when the picture you get just for completing the mission for the second time with any rank is Goliath with "all brawn, no brains" written on it, lmao.

ahahaha, no! i recently only just finished my first run so im actively looking forward to this. that's freaking great, this game is filled with so much damn charm

TreIII · Mar 16, 2019

Son of Sparda said:
He summoned Phantom as a familiar but he wasn't obedient and wouldn't listen to V, so V had to kill him.

Booooooo

jett · Mar 16, 2019

I like what he got in the actual game, but these are neat.

Sign My Guestbook! · Mar 16, 2019

Some of those Dante concepts are fucking rad.

Sub Boss · Mar 16, 2019

Female V would have been cooler, but current V fits the plot better

That Dante design looks great could have been used in a more colorful game/world

Tetra-Grammaton-Cleric · Mar 16, 2019

Forkball said:
*sees The Force Awakens*
"Scrap all current V designs"

Glad I wasn't the only one who saw a heavy Adam Driver/Kylo Ren influence in V. :)

BigWinnie1 · Mar 16, 2019

Daysean said:
As much as people say they wanted Female V i can highly see it being shit on for being the

"Weaker" Human side of Vergil

Sucks that we couldn't have Brown Nico tho

Nico is brown tho? Her concept is basically is the mom darker or lighter than her dad. If darker we get concept art and if Lighter we get our Nico.

Deleted member 1273 · Mar 16, 2019

I'm fucking mad

Yesterday · Mar 16, 2019

Son of Sparda said:
He summoned Phantom as a familiar but he wasn't obedient and wouldn't listen to V, so V had to kill him.

Sounds in character to me

Deleted member 1273 · Mar 16, 2019

V being a woman would be fucking awesome

Son of Sparda · Mar 16, 2019

Luulubuu said:
V being a woman would be fucking awesome

Story wise it would've been controversial tho

V is Vergil's human side which is really weak. So imagine if the only female playable character in the game was V who is constantly reminded and a few times mocked for being very weak and has to rely on other characters like Nero and Dante to do his bidding. There is even one boss fight that V literally hides from, scared, and Nero comes in to save his ass.

That wouldn't have gone over well at all with media and a lot players, especially when you consider how little Trish and Lady contribute to the game as well.

That said, I def would love to see a female summoner style character in future entries. Dante's daughter maybe? Fingers crossed.

Skittles · Mar 16, 2019

BBboy20 said:
Who was voiced by a black actor.

Phew, they really did de-black nico heavily

Deleted member 7051 · Mar 16, 2019

How did they not go with this one? It's so cool and sexy! Were they worried Dante might have competition? 😏

Unspeakable Evil · Mar 16, 2019

Trafalgar Law said:
nah angus was a little more than tan to me tho

Yeah . I didn't even realize his VA was black until years later. I generally have no clue what Angus is meant to be lol

WellbornWarrior · Mar 16, 2019

Somehow these conpcept arts look far worse and less detailed than the actual game when it's usually the other way around.

Crossing Eden · Mar 16, 2019

Skittles said:
The model is half white and half Malaysian. The voice actor is white. Agnus just looks like a tanned white dude

Faye Kingslee is not white.

Skittles · Mar 16, 2019

Crossing Eden said:
Faye Kingslee is not white.

Ooops, looked at outdated information for the VA. Shes half chinese half irish.

Also, lol @ morrison not being voiced by a black dude. Cmon capcom, you still got backpay to do for magic blackface trish.

Crossing Eden · Mar 16, 2019

This is essentially a redesign of Gilver from the DMC1 novel.

Which makes sense given the twist is the same for both characters when it comes to his identity.

Sub Boss · Mar 16, 2019

V=Vergil
Gilver=Vergil
guy doesn't want to hide his name i wonder why Dante didn't catch on 🤔

alpha · Mar 16, 2019

Zimmiwood said:
Or Trish not being able to lift V when she wields the damn Sparda sword. Couldn't even do that one thing

To be fair, that was present with Nero as well. Had trouble walking while carrying someone when he has superhuman strength. They did do Trish and Lady dirty in general though, I agree.

They aren't consistent with the physical strength (not anime "power", actual strength) of the characters at all, lol.

Also, what at Nico being whitewashed. She may not be black, but she's certainly not straight up white just as the person they used for her likeness isn't.

Skittles · Mar 16, 2019

Unspeakable Evil said:
Yeah . I didn't even realize his VA was black until years later. I generally have no clue what Angus is meant to be lol

Samoan is the closest he looks like

daedalius · Mar 16, 2019

alpha said:
To be fair, that was present with Nero as well. Had trouble walking while carrying someone when he has superhuman strength. They did do Trish and Lady dirty in general though, I agree.

They aren't consistent with the physical strength (not anime "power", actual strength) of the characters at all, lol.

Also, what at Nico being whitewashed. She may not be black, but she's certainly not straight up white just as the person they used for her likeness isn't.

I was really confused at that part, Red Queen probably weighs more than V!

Zimmiwood · Mar 16, 2019

daedalius said:
I was really confused at that part, Red Queen probably weighs more than V!

maybe we're all thinking about this wrong and v is the one that is abnormally heavy 🤔

Rick Sanchez · Mar 16, 2019

the Concept Art look way better than the final work ... and female V . ah What a waste.

direct_quote · Mar 16, 2019

I think the only costume I liked was Dante's drifter costume, rest of concept arts aren't that great to me and I'm glad what they choose for the game.

Female V art wasn't very impressive to me, but I wouldn't have been opposed to a female V with a better design.

Zacmortar · Mar 17, 2019

Female V with that Medusa Trigger got me wrecked

Please use that design in 6

Give her a True Punk personality/aesthetic to counter Nero's Casual Punk

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