- Nov 16, 2017
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This port begging thread still open ? What the hell is going on here ?
You just need to look at OP, MS releasing games on their platform (Windows) is somehow special and good because that's where he play games.No one is actually against exclusives. What they always mean to say is they are against games not coming to the platform they own. So many exclusives come out everyday or games skip platforms. It's not until it's a game that skips their platform that exclusives become bad.
You need to go back & read my last post here on this thread. Post #501.Stuff that outright loses Money would go like the Last Guardian would go, but why wouldn’t Sony and Nintendo keep releasing games if they keep generating profits? And as far as I can tell most of their games do generate profits. They have a much larger group of studios than other companies do, why wouldnt they keep them and keep making money? theyd Be selling their games to a larger audience.
They don’t need to sell to a larger audience. BOTW is pushing 20 million sold. There’s no need. People find it easier to just buy a Switch or PS4 and play what they want instead of going on a forum and port praying for a game to come to Xbox.stuff that outright loses Money would go like the Last Guardian would go, but why wouldn’t Sony and Nintendo keep releasing games if they keep generating profits? And as far as I can tell most of their games do generate profits. They have a much larger group of studios than other companies do, why wouldnt they keep them and keep making money? theyd Be selling their games to a larger audience.
Xbox and PlayStation don’t depend on their games.. noted. Can someone lock this insane thread?
I almost left before this one, my morning just got so much more laugh filled.
To be fair those aren't really comparabale because it really boils down to how much to invest to get into those ecosystems. I can just go across the street to get a Whopper if I am at McDonalds. I don't need special hardware to watch Netflix Originals. Having exclusives on consoles could be hundreds of dollars just to get started.
that’s funny because I’m pretty sure there’s hundreds of pages of posts on this forum about how Epic Game Store exclusives are inherently vile despite not needing different hardware to play themTo be fair those aren't really comparabale because it really boils down to how much to invest to get into those ecosystems. I can just go across the street to get a Whopper if I am at McDonalds. I don't need special hardware to watch Netflix Originals. Having exclusives on consoles could be hundreds of dollars just to get started.
And everyone knows that every third party developer has the resources to target and make ports for every platform available for every game they make.
tbf i got dat Cuphead on Switch
But why would I imagine a world where they don't exist when we live in one where they do? It's practically impossible we would've gotten the 3D Mario games in their current form if it wasn't for exclusivity. It would be even more impossible to get Bayonetta 2 at all.For "X only exists because exclusivity" to be true, "X cannot exist if there's no exclusivity" must also be true, however, there is no evidence that proves the second statement.
X exists because of exclusivity, but it can also exist in a world without exclusivity. Is my argument against it.
Sure, Horizon, Mario, Bloodborne or Daemon X Machina may not existed as the way we know them in this alternative universe without exclusivity, but we wouldn't have a point to compare unless we could look into another universe.
Imagine a world where Horizon(for example) didn't exist, and all other exclusives too, and then you try to convince everyone about how this game with a red haired woman hunting robot dinosaurs in a sci-fi snowland is only possible if X company pays for exclusive. You'd be seen as insane.
It's like some people think exclusives exist just to annoy them. Yes, it would be great to have one single company from which you could get every possible piece of entertainment and media as you have now from different sources, but that's not how any of this works. The biggest reason why Sony and Nintendo exclusives stand out and are of such high quality compared to games in general is because these companies understand that they need to invest big in these games to have people buy in their ecosystem. Sony and Nintendo also have the studios to produce these top quality games. If you like their games, buy the console and don't act so entitled.
This is just all wrong. None of these companies are saying we’ve made enough money. They’re not releasing their exclusives elsewhere because the long term gains will be more beneficial than the short term gain.They don’t need to sell to a larger audience. BOTW is pushing 20 million sold. There’s no need. People find it easier to just buy a Switch or PS4 and play what they want instead of going on a forum and port praying for a game to come to Xbox.
You mention Gravity Rush earlier and how it could’ve benefited from being multiplat. That’s not true either Sony has internal samples of how much a game would sell on another platform. If it can’t do well on a platform of 100 million no need to waste resources releasing on platform of 30-40 million...
Not even this, there's PSNow, so no hardware ask, but it's still not good enough. And all realists, who understand how capitalism works, are being called corporate shills or defence force.
I don't think anyone is defending them, just saying how things work. You're welcome to try and do something about it (maybe shout "Exclusives suck, capitalism sucks" in the streets or something).
VR exclusive games. Games exclusively to VR and VR games exclusive to certain platforms.What are you inferring? It's a peripheral that could be sold for just about any platform if there was the demand for it?
Not that it matters, but personally, I had a VR setup for awhile and it just wasn't delivering the sort of gaming experiences I wanted, with the quality I wanted.
I sold it and haven't missed it since.
I'm not sure what it will take for me to dip back in, but certainly the resolution per eye will need to skyrocket (and with it hopefully the distracting "screen door" effect).
Microsoft isn’t being agnostic. Their games are still overwhelmingly limited to platforms THEY own. You’re not seeing them put Halo on Playstation, are you?Wider availability of titles to the most people is the better thing to do. Might not be the best business sense in some ways but that's just how it goes sometimes. I really appreciate MS' more open and agnostic policy though, it's a great thing to see.
Nevertheless there are plenty of regular consumers who defend this and that I'll never understand.
Companies have to make money or they won’t do it. Sony and nintendo’s Reasons for putting money into games is to sell their devices. It’s reasonable to accept that a company also has to have a motivation to put money into something. At some point you have to accept that they have to get something out of making something too.
But you do have to buy windows... which is owned by who? I don’t see Microsoft bringing their games to the platforms they don’t own (other than games already having been promised before they bought the developer and Minecraft which already was popular on all platforms and ms would probably have gotten hugely bad pr if they had tried to reverse that).