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Expert says Indians will soon become water refugees heading for water-rich Europe
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Which the West including climate change deniers have known about for decades.
It was one of the cornerstones of the NeoCon agenda in the Middle East. Take control before climate crisis makes it so unstable oil is off the menu.
I think I read War is probably cheaper than Desalination. People will resort to that first before doing that process in mass quantities. It's crazy.
if you watched the big short, Christian Bales character, the guy who shorted the housing market before 2008 and made bank, took a lot of his profit from then and invested in what he predicted would be the next crisis
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Yes but China had previous examples and could prevent the problem (eg electrical public transports), in India there is no room for prevention, hence much more difficult and costly
I kinda fear we'll look at certain dystopian scifi productions like Cyberpunk and consider them waaay optimistic.
I don't see us as a race overcoming the environmental challenges that lie ahead of us without decades of ugly shit going down and a lot of suffering.
Us dutchies will be kings of the world. We bend water to our will and we'll hoard it for profit.
Well, they need to start from somewhere. If they don't do it now, it will only be more severe in the future.
Fortunately the Indians are better than we give them credit for. They have installed one of the largest solar farm and will continue make more progress.
USA be like (when they see a Country with valuable resources) : "Holland is ripe for regime change, they have wmds"
And yet still almost everyone I talk to about the worldwide genocide that's coming go silent and say nothing whenever I bring it up. It will happen sooner than most of us expect, prepare yourself for it.
I also think nukes will one day fly between India and Pakistan. Neither one of those countries should have them. The pressures between them are too great, it was a massive failure on the part of the world to allow that to happen.
I also think nukes will one day fly between India and Pakistan. Neither one of those countries should have them. The pressures between them are too great, it was a massive failure on the part of the world to allow that to happen.
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Im preparing my thoughts and prayers and "never forget" Facebook posts.
Thoughts and prayers for the people we'll slaughter?
Man, i hate the future
In the US that will absolutely happen, folks here will convince themselves that white Christians are God's chosen people. They'll lament that the others have to die, but they'll justify it using the above and then say that they'll pray for the souls of the dead.
Obviously we will not be aware of anything except when its too late!
(with "we" I mean our western society who will shut everyone out and let mass deaths unfold right on our border then act all sad and "never forget, never let it happen again" when all is said and done. So we feel better, rinse and repeat...)
Seriously, if climate migration leads to the rise of fascism and "walls around europe" or whatever, then humanity has failed and its time to write us off.
This is also an option though.
US won't slaughter anyone. As usual, we'll just find ways to not be helpful and scores of people will die as a result. And we won't feel responsible because we didn't do anything...while refusing to acknowledge that inaction is an action.
I think the US will absolutely slaughter others. Most of it will be done by paramilitary white vigilantes. It's an American tradition, after all.
damn i immediately pictured this and i thought it looks like some kind of dystopian future scifi movie, yet we are heading there irl. i think humans were always destined to end up there.
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They will do the same in Europe.
Yeah I've been thinking about the very likely mass slaughter of water refugees for a while now. I mean, it's bound to happen until the richest countries reverse course right now and throw money (and technology) at this problem. And even if that were to happen (which it won't), we don't have time left.
The system will reset itself, one way or another.
The system will reset itself, one way or another.
I'm telling you right now that this isn't going to happen. The current relatively minor refugee crisis caused a right-wave with the UK voting to leave the European Union (it definitely played a part). The spiritual successor to the Yugoslav wars will happen before any sort of mass migration takes place.
How will the refugees actually get there? I can only imagine how Pakistan would feel about a hundred million people from their hated neighbour wandering through their country. I wonder if the Indian government would ever use their nuclear weapons as leverage? There's also the whole caste system where the leadership might be happy to see the culling of those "below" them.
Russia will be interesting considering they have the most water out of the European countries while also having the lowest population density.
How will the refugees actually get there? I can only imagine how Pakistan would feel about a hundred million people from their hated neighbour wandering through their country. I wonder if the Indian government would ever use their nuclear weapons as leverage? There's also the whole caste system where the leadership might be happy to see the culling of those "below" them.
Russia will be interesting considering they have the most water out of the European countries while also having the lowest population density.
Shouldn't allow it?
There should be no choice. If people need to migrate to survive then you don't turn them away.
Well, i guess everybody should do their part i guess. Why not russians ?
My thoughts exactly.
I wonder if they'll let people pass through like Turkey does or if they'll see themselves as the metaphorical Gates of Vienna and "hold the line" for the rest of Europe. Mass migration makes for good political leverage, but the population of Russia is also pretty racist....
The traditional Middle East route to Europe will probably be a death trap if water becomes a serious concern.
Not to mention they don't treat and recycle their water at all, they just dump it into the ocean.
Is mass desalination feasible? Desalination seems like a good way to fight water scarcity and rising ocean levels but you never actually see it being proposed.
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This seems like a good belt and road thing
A failed state on the border seems bad for business
It's incredibly energy intensive and therefore expensive. Countries like Australia and Israel have made a lot of progress into making desalination more efficient and affordable, but the technology is not ready to be deployed on a mass scale.
A cheap, clean energy breakthrough is what we need the most. A new Manhattan project to figure out a way to master and quickly deploy nuclear fusion power across the globe is THE panacea to combat climate change.
If clean energy is so cheap that it's essentially free things like desalination, industrial carbon capture, and much more widescale recycling will all become affordable to widely deploy.
Climate change zealots only care about carbon scores, and giving drought starved people water will definitely produce a lot of carbon.
Its in their best interest to not have a failed nuclear state on their border with 1.3 billion angry people?
Its in their sphere of influence?
Its better for business?
I mean pick one
Yeah I see them buying water from Russia and China. And invest in water tech. In any scenario, it will make climate change worse.
Overall, people need to confront the fact that there are too many people. Better tech is needed and we simply don't have it, at the scale we need it.
Mother nature is about to get her revenge, and it is going to be sweet. For her, not us. We're screwed.
So what's the solution then? Let starvation solve the problem?