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It's like, right at Trump's demographic.
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The Russians were heavily interfering in the election. They were putting out fake ads, colluding with a presidential campaign, and all sorts of other shit.FB spending should absolutely be investigated, and there absolutely should be total transparency mandated about who's buying political ads and who they're targeted at, but a big, scary number doesn't actually logically lead to "Russia stole the election" like numerous people in this very thread are suggesting. It's very easy to buy massive reach numbers with a relatively low spend.
People are stupid. And yes, these kinds of stupid ads helped convince people to stay home or vote Trump/3rd party. It was a low-percentage scheme that actually paid off. And if we are passive and weak now that we know about it, 2018 and 2020 will be even worse.All of the examples I've seen are pretty stupid. If they had a hand in tipping the election, than that says more about the US than Russia having some genius devilish scheme.
"Baby, it says here that Clinton is Satan and theres a picture of the devil and Christ arm wrestling. Maybe we should vote for the sexually assaulting conman instead"
The Russians were heavily interfering in the election. They were putting out fake ads, colluding with a presidential campaign, and all sorts of other shit.
The chance that none of that mattered on the margins is 0%.
If someone is actively interested in downplaying that possibility that it helped tip the election where Trump won only by under a hundred thousand votes, it says everything about who they are and what their priorities are.
All of the examples I've seen are pretty stupid. If they had a hand in tipping the election, than that says more about the US than Russia having some genius devilish scheme.
"Baby, it says here that Clinton is Satan and theres a picture of the devil and Christ arm wrestling. Maybe we should vote for the sexually assaulting conman instead"
All of the examples I've seen are pretty stupid. If they had a hand in tipping the election, than that says more about the US than Russia having some genius devilish scheme.
"Baby, it says here that Clinton is Satan and theres a picture of the devil and Christ arm wrestling. Maybe we should vote for the sexually assaulting conman instead"
I wasn't referring to Facebook here, they're obviously terrible on this. Meant that chorus of "lefties" (IceColdCoffee has a list) who deliberately downplay anything involving Russia.Their priorities are to continue with business as usual. They have zero interest in actually doing anything because doing anything will hurt their bottom line.
Facebook is primarially an advertizing platform that is pretty much being run under the anonymity of a small business and wants nothing to change. Deny, obfuscate and hope to whatever god they choose that all the money they spend on lobbying will result in congresional handwaving and the status quo of zero oversight.
I wasn't referring to Facebook here, they're obviously terrible on this. Meant that chorus of "lefties" (IceColdCoffee has a list) who deliberately downplay anything involving Russia.
I believe that a solution is to use social media less frequently. I took Facebook off my phone, and I follow certain users on Twitter, primarily gaming related stuff.
I'll log onto FB occasionally to check stuff, but that's it. Shutting off the faucet (so to speak) has been helpful. That, and I don't want to be as much of a contributor to a company that, knowingly or unknowingly, fault or low-fault, played a really big part in spreading misinformation.
You should not pay attention to news in the first place if thats your viewpoint. Every big corperate news entity you listen to pushes their own particular narrative, and its not necessarily objective or hard hitting journalism.
I think this story is exaggerated compared to the pure amount of money other institutions pour into America's political process. Hundreds of billions of dollars from multinational corps and not a peep
I don't know man...why change up their story and lie so much then?FB is too left to be in cahoots. I just dont think they realised that their platform is ripe for abuse and there wasn't safeguards in place.
The russians were clever about this.
Just knowing the efficacy of Facebook ads, I'll bet less than 10% of that figure actually viewed this content.
You bring up a good point. I tend to listen to sources that don't circulate memes (like NPR). It's the clickbait-styled "ads" that I'm referring to.
And it's definitely not Facebook only. Sorry, should have been more clear.
FB is too left to be in cahoots. I just dont think they realised that their platform is ripe for abuse and there wasn't safeguards in place.
The russians were clever about this.
Because they're in deep shit because of this and don't want to get fined/regulated as a result of this.I don't know man...why change up their story and lie so much then?