Fallout: New Vegas (Obsidian) Was Released 10 Years Ago. Which major faction did you side with ?

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Fallout: New Vegas came out 10 years ago on PC, Xbox 360 and PS3. Game was praised for its complex writing, unique atmosphere, Karma system, moral choices and ambiguity and its freedom. Once the first quest is completed, you are free to do whatever you wish (only 4 NPCs are invincible in the game) and go wherever you wish on the map.

There is tons of minor factions but also 4 major players in New Vegas that the player can side with, each with their own main quests and their own reputation system:

An expansionist federal presidential republic founded in New California. The largest known post-War country. Purportedly dedicates itself to the values of the old world: Democracy, liberty, the rule of law, all in order to make the wasteland a better place. It also protects ghouls and mutants.

However, the Republic faces many challenges, is criticized for its high taxes, suffers food shortages, is threatened by famine and is plagued by corruption and internal conflicts.
The current president, Aaron Kimball, is a "war hawk".

"Four years ago, we held this dam. Four years ago, we carried the weight. Four years ago, we drew a line through the Mojave as clear as the Colorado River, a line that Caesar cannot cross. Today, you stand here with our brothers and sisters to hold that line.
Thank you. Thank you.
(Okay, let's get the fuck out of here. What the hell are you waiting for – do you think I want to get shot? Let's go.)"

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An imperialistic and extremely brutal dictatorship founded in 2247, inspired and partially based on the ancient Roman Empire and led by Caesar, self-proclaimed "Son of Mars", egomaniacal and former citizen of the NCR.

Caesar's ultimate goal is to conquer the New California Republic and merge its civilian culture and infrastructure with the military strength of the Legion, creating a new totalitarian empire, a "Pax Romana" which would prevent humanity from ever fracturing itself again.

In hoc signo taurus vinces. (In the sign of the bull, you will conquer.) Report to Legatus Lanius immediately - he'll brief you on the plan of battle. Come back victorious, or don't come back.

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Founder of RobCo Industries, multi-billionaire by the age of 30, megalomaniac (or ambitious). He mathematically predicted the atomic war and took steps to ensure that the Chinese missiles would miss his beloved Las Vegas and the surrounding areas. The Platinium Chip, the last piece of the defense network, was set to be delivered in the afternoon of October 23, 2077. The bombs fell the day before.

Biding his time, he entered the world stage again in 2274. Securitrons under his command emerged from Lucky 38 Hotel & Casino, in order to establish his rule over Vegas.

"I knew I couldn't "save the world," nor did I care to. But I could save Vegas, and in the process, perhaps, save mankind. I set to work immediately. I thought I had plenty of time to prepare. As it turned out, I was 20 hours short."

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A hacked AI program originally programmed to work for Mr. House like all the other securitrons.

He planned the ambush on the Courrier and is part of Benny's master plan to kill Mr. House, usurp control of New Vegas and expel both the New California Republic and Caesar's Legion.

Designed to do exactly as he is told (hence Yes Man).

"You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to ! I didn't want to make a big deal about this until after we won, but, well... I found some code snippets in one of Mr. House's databanks that will let me, um, reprogram my personality! To be a little more assertive, basically !"

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Unfortunetaly, the game was plagued with bugs, glitches, crashes and technical issues, had outdated graphics even for its day (it was one of the last game to use the Gamebryo engine) and was largely unfinished in some places.



I still hope that someday this game will get a proper remaster / remake with next-gen graphics and performance (the game looks so bad and outdated honestly) + Fallout 4's gunplay, sprint and crafting + the cut content restored and the original vision that Obsidian had in mind.
Story and atmosphere were A+ while graphics and engine were F-.

I think that's the best Fallout game ever (and one of the best game I've played) but I'm still bitter that so much content and so many interesting ideas had to be cut/dropped (KotOR 2 all again) because of both PS3/Xbox 360 technical limitations and Obsidian's ambition clashing with time restraints (18 months):

- a lot of Caesar's Legion content (Legion-controlled locations in Arizona, many quests...) that would have better explained their ultimate goal and motives.

The biggest casualty, Sawyer says, were the settlements east of the Colorado River. This area was meant to contain three Legion locations filled with quests and content, and would have ultimately had a very different vibe from New Vegas proper.

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- Legionary Alexus (he has the highest charisma of the entire Legion but in the final game he has no unique dialogue at all and is useless).

- proper post-endgame content and changes after the battle of Hoover Dam (you can't play it after beating the main story actually)
- cut encounters with Benny
- more companions (Ulysses as a Legion companion in the base game, Betsy the Brahmin)

- a friendly miniature Sentry Bot Toy that would follow the player

- expanded New Vegas Strip, a much larger and less empty Freeside without loading zones


- a lot of content regarding Primm (Powder Gangers / NCR, reputation, a new sheriff..). There's pretty much nothing to actually do in Primm.
- becoming a Great Khan
- potential Vault(s) (Vault 24)

- reclaiming control of Helios One on behalf of the Brotherhood of Steel
- weapons, characters (like Mr. House's Marilyn Securitron)...

- radioactive tumbleweeds

- 'The House Always Wins: Lockdown' (escaping the Lucky 38 for misbehavior)
- Gojira (=Godzilla), most powerful enemy in the game, though it was never intended to be in the game and created just for fun
- lots of NPSs and dialogue lines, Fiend dialogues, VR Pods (potentially)...
- unused Yes Man faces

- and many more things...

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Victor was also supposed to be more developped and at least duel you if choosing to betray Mr. House:

Victor, the Securitron you encounter in Goodsprings, is nothing if not suspicious. There's something about his "aw shucks" cowboy persona that makes the hairs on your neck stand up. He seems overly-friendly, refuses to answer questions about his past, or tell you who he works for. He also follows you, startling you by popping up randomly on the road to New Vegas and forcing you into dialogues. You can't even waste him: he just inhabits another Securitron. Everything about Victor screams that he has some sinister motivation that the game will eventually reveal.
Except it never does. After you reach New Vegas he more or less stops mattering. If you get rid of Mr.House, he simply goes offline and stands outside his shack forever. Cut content does reveal that he was meant to duel you after disposing of House (there's a mod that restores this), but even that seems anti-climactic.

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Some cool concept arts:

Freeside and Vegas

Camp McCarran / airport

Lucky 38 Control Room and Mr. House

Hoover Dam

Mojave Wasteland

The Fort

Lonesome road / the Divide

Vegas (very early)

The game also had a very special and almost eerie / sinister atmosphere thanks to the soundtrack:





Fun fact (not really): Quarry Junction wasn't the worse place of the game. There was a secret and creepy unmarked location east of the Colorado river (Deathclaw Promontory) that has about several dozens Deathclaws (about 36 I think), including multiple alpha and mothers, guarding an Enclave's advanced power armor and a T-51b power armor.

Another one:
Ghostly voices can be heard when standing near an exhumed grave at Goodsprings cemetery with the radio off.

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Also:

The wasteland is a dangerous place for anyone. However, the wasteland for a child is one of the most difficult locations you can imagine, and surviving that alone can destroy the strongest of children. Matthew's Animal Husbandry Farm within this game is a location that hides a tragic tale that only the keenest explorer will discover. A man left behind notes telling his story. As a young boy, the man went in search of his parents, who had fled to Camp Searchlight for help for their family. When he found them, however, he was forced to end them as they had become ghouls, and they chased him back to the farm. Growing up without a soul in sight, he began to believe the animals were trying to harm him, and eventually burned himself alive. Even creepier, a bug in the game can turn the farm animals hostile, confirming his paranoid belief.

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[PlanetSmasher]

I worked with House all the way up to the point he asked me to nuke the Brotherhood and then I betrayed him and switched to Yes Man. I don't participate in genocide.

 

[DreamRunner]

Damn.It's been 10 years already?I remember winning this back then on lockerz.com.Those were the days.

 

[Yoshimitsu126]

I got cold feet and didn't choose. I should play this game again. Someday. Maybe.

 

[Cross-Section]

The first time, at release? House.

Nowadays? Wild Card, baby.

 

[defaltoption]

First play through I went for the NCR but every playthough after was Wild Card, I've played the game like 6 times and still haven't done the Legion. I gotta try that.

 

[Uzzy]

 

[PlanetSmasher]

First play through I went for the NCR but every playthough after was Wild Card, I've played the game like 6 times and still haven't done the Legion. I gotta try that.

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The only good part about the Legion arc is the dialogue you can have with Caesar at the end being MUCH more fleshed out than if you just get sent to assassinate him. It's a cool scene but the Legion is pretty irredeemably awful.

 

[Sign My Guestbook!]

Wild card! It's just so much fun to run underneath every faction in the story and "hack Vegas."

 

[Hella]

Think I went NCR in my first run, but I did all of them. Except the Legion's--fuck the Legion.

Every game I cleared out Caesar's camp.

 

[Uzzy]

That said I really liked Boone and the NCR. I'd like to think my own courier went wild card but was still friendly towards the NCR.

 

[TheChrisGlass]

That said I really liked Boone and the NCR. I'd like to think my own courier went wild card but was still friendly towards the NCR.

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[Fisty]

I was one of Caesar's psychos. What a wacky faction that was, no justifying their actions they were just straight lunatics

 

[Adnor]

 

[WestEgg]

I always want to go with the NCR but just can't help myself and go wild card.

 

[5taquitos]

That said I really liked Boone and the NCR. I'd like to think my own courier went wild card but was still friendly towards the NCR.

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Holy shit this picture is slaying me

 

[ace3skoot]

4th best game of all time, I wildcard first time but have got every ending. I love how well you can commit to a build and make it work. Love this game 10/10, has any reviewer seen how this game perform on series x yet?

 

[{Marvelous}]

My first one might've been House but I've played through the game many many times since it's release and have probably sided with all of them by now, it makes it a bit difficult to remember.

With longer breaks from New Vegas I usually jump back in with Wild Card to familiarise myself with content and not tip toe around allegiances.

I think I have an NCR run going on the side that I'm eager to get back to at some point. I haven't done NCR or Legion in ages.

 

[Cameron122]

I mean...Check my avatar lol. Although I don't think Edward Sallow quite understood the Roman Empire beyond its crueler aspects.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

I mean...Check my avatar lol. Although I don't think Edward Sallow quite understood the Roman Empire beyond its crueler aspects.

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I imagine the Legion also didn't understand the Roman Empire either.

 

[h0tp0ck3t]

I went with Ncr cause I thought they were the good guys.
in the end they tax everyone to the point of poverty

 

[Kraq]

I went with Yes Man on my first run all those years back - being my own boss sounded like a good idea. I explored the other factions on other playthroughs.

I actually replayed the game a few months ago and it's impressive just how good the writing is at times. I didn't appreciate it when I was younger, but this time around I've actually had to stop and think about how I'm going to reply to NPCs, and your first meeting with Caesar is one of my favourite RPG interactions ever. Sadly, the graphics and gameplay don't hold up. If anyone happens to be playing the game on PC, do yourself a favour and install a sprint mod.

 

[IzzyRX]

NCR and Wild Card.
Never did anything for the Legion, not big on crucifiction.

 

[KomandaHeck]

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Beat me to it lol

Haven't played New Vegas since release but it's one of the GOATs. Can't wait to go through it again.

 

[Doctor Doggo]

I have had this installed on my PC for the last two years. What are some must install mods? I don't want anything that makes the game easier. Just maybe makes it look better and less buggy?

Sorry I know this is off topic, but I did a quick search for an OT and could t find anything for new Vegas.

Thanks!

 

[PlanetSmasher]

I have had this installed on my PC for the last two years. What are some must install mods? I don't want anything that makes the game easier. Just maybe makes it look better and less buggy?

Sorry I know this is off topic, but I did a quick search for an OT and could t find anything for new Vegas.

Thanks!

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Add some more radio stations or you might go crazy.

 

[Saturday]

WILD CARD BABY YEEHAW

But I mean this was with the context that your Courier would most likely not fuck up everything long-term (for instance, they would most likely be in the best position to release Big MT technology.) Coldly sterile Mr. House and obviously-flawed democracy NCR are compromises.

Caesar's Legion is amusing in that you first go "Oh jesus, this faction's fucked." But then you realize there might be some depth to them, and perhaps an ultimate good can come from allying with them. And then you go in-depth and realize they're pretty fucked. (one talking point rotated around the internet is that Caesar is the only thing really uniting his faction, and his death- natural or hastened- will most likely ruin the legion)

 

[MidnightCowboy]

One of my favorite games of all time. Perhaps a bit dated now in some areas, but no roleplaying game has managed to grab me as much since. I'm a Wild Card guy till the end.

 

[Kasey]

I worked with House all the way up to the point he asked me to nuke the Brotherhood and then I betrayed him and switched to Yes Man. I don't participate in genocide.

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That's why you never trust a libertarian.

 

[Rygar 8Bit]

NCR, what kind of monster would side with the legion?

 

[RespectThySole]

WILD CARD BABY

 

[Uzzy]

Add some more radio stations or you might go crazy.

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Nah, just have this on repeat throughout your playtime. It's fine.

 

[Doskoi Panda]

In my last playthrough, I followed Mr. House, at first because I respected his ambition, and eventually, because my character grew into an egomaniac over time, convinced he could progress House's schemes and then oust him and take control
when I finally got around to that... I ended up using the AutoDoc in my casino suite to actually steal Mr. House's name and appearance. I didn't just side with Mr. House, I became him
man that playthrough was a blast

 

[The Living Tribunal]

NCR. Fuck Kaizar.

 

[TheUnsungHero26]

NCR, but I remember having a difficult time deciding on my first playthrough. Never considered helping Legion, but it's a shame they weren't as fleshed out as they could have been.

New Vegas is such an incredible game. The "post-post apocalypse" setting is so much more appealing to me than what is typically presented in apocalyptic games.

 

[Trigger]

House every time. He basically let's you live in the lap of luxury, and he's probably the region's best bet at progressing the technology and infrastructure. The only downside is that he can be a bit..... extreme in response to people who threaten his rule. But really you could say that about all of them.

 

[Uzzy]

I have had this installed on my PC for the last two years. What are some must install mods? I don't want anything that makes the game easier. Just maybe makes it look better and less buggy?

Sorry I know this is off topic, but I did a quick search for an OT and could t find anything for new Vegas.

Thanks!

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I can't vouch for the accuracy of this, but it appears to be what you need to look into.

Viva New Vegas

A fully modular, comprehensive, and regularly updated modding guide that allows for any personal preference to be satisfied.

vivanewvegas.github.io

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Nah, just have this on repeat throughout your playtime. It's fine.

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this is exactly why I suggested adding more radio stations

 

[Deleted member 39374]

This game needs a proper next gen remake/remaster

 

[Saturday]

I have had this installed on my PC for the last two years. What are some must install mods? I don't want anything that makes the game easier. Just maybe makes it look better and less buggy?

Sorry I know this is off topic, but I did a quick search for an OT and could t find anything for new Vegas.

Thanks!

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A quick google search leads me to Viva New Vegas, a comprehensive modding guide. I haven't read it in detail but it does appear to cater towards beginners and experts to modding alike and is set up in modules so you can put in your own mileage for how in-depth you want to go.

 

[Eren Jäger]

Played it five years ago. This and Fallout 3 really captured my attention for about a month, despite not being my type of game.

I chose the Republic, because they seemed to be the best for the people. I know I'm boring.

 

[Bard]

I think I went Wild Card the first time. I stopped in my second playthrough after accidentally becoming an enemy of NCR while trying to steal the ranger's gear and also while trying to do quests for the Legion just to do more quests. I should go back and fuck people up though, see what happens in the Legion playthrough but still kill Caesar.

 

[shimon]

Wild Card.

 

[Deleted member 13015]

Sided with NCR, then worked for Mr. House, then contemplated on Mr. House's motives, then killed Mr. House. :)

 

[Uzzy]

Played it five years ago. This and Fallout 3 really captured my attention for about a month, despite not being my type of game.

I chose the Republic, because they seemed to be the best for the people. I know I'm boring.

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NCR do have the most incredible flag though. Well worth fighting for.

 

[wingkongex]

Probably the best game ever made.

 

[Nameless]

Last playthrough I spent much if it sabotaging the NCR from the inside (there's a surprising amount of freedom on that front) before defecting to Legion. Used them to destoy the NCR then betrayed them too.

 

[Deleted member 14568]

i went NCR for my first playthrough back in 2014 but nowadays i would go full yes man fuck the old world the NCR is trying to emulate and fuck the legion bunch of misogynistic slaver prick

 

[Possum Armada]

God I want a remaster of that game so damn much.

 

[Bedameister]

Man I wish this game would get a remake.