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Everywhere

Banned
Jun 12, 2019
2,104
As we all KNOW, Nintendo's online services are beyond TERRIBLE.

Paying for a sub didn't change that so fans are doing what they can to make their online experience in Animal Crossing a bit less... awful.

The Animal Crossing community has been amazing at DEVELOPING tools to make the game more enjoyable.

Turnip Exchange

An online hub to show islands that are open to visitors, and it has a smart queuing system for turnip business.


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Browse custom designs submitted by other users, or submit your own. Very easy to search and find what you want.

Yall are forgetting a good one.

nookazon.com

Nookazon.com | Trade Animal Crossing: New Horizons (ACNH) Items

Trade Animal Crossing: New Horizons (ACNH) Items on Nookazon, a peer to peer marketplace for Animal Crossing: New Horizons (ACNH) players.

I feel like these people deserve some praise for the amazing work they have put together. No excuses, only action. We love to see a passionate group of people doing what big corporations don't.

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Skel1ingt0n

Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,716
I really need to play the turnip game but I know others time skip and it feels less than kosher for me since I don't time skip. It's kind of... a gray middle ground.

But I'm also poor and want stuff.
 

julian

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,748
My friend recently sent me a link to this place: https://nookazon.com/

Haven't really checked it out yet, but seems pretty funny. If only trading was more bearable. I guess you could just send things through postcards.
 

Deleted member 2254

user requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,467
Online gaming has been figured out and perfected for a long time on PC. Already in the days of Xbox 360, console games showed with stuff like Halo 3, the console version of Minecraft, etc. that you can have proper community tools, solid servers, and whatnot in a single package. Games like FIFA had trading marketplaces for over a decade. But this generation we still get dumb stuff like Destiny having no matchmaking for raids, or Nintendo... well, just about everything about Nintendo is just baffling. Super Mario Party's online only consisted of a minigame shuffle mode, can't play the board games which are literally the point of the game. Super Mario Odyssey's coop is disappointing and can't be played online. The Pokémon games have enormous limitations and a once free feature is now paid.

Now there's Animal Crossing with this obnoxious system where you always gotta wait for that plane landing animation which blocks all players, no proper server searches or matchmaking of sorts. The game just expects you to organize your business elsewhere. It's frankly unacceptable in 2020 and it's too bad more fuss isn't made about it.
 

maximumzero

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,903
New Orleans, LA
The Turnip Exchange is a neat idea ruined by idiots attempting to charge exorbitant access fees to their islands.

If/when I ever get a Turnip price over 125 bells I'll have unfettered access to anyone that wants to sell their turnips, no strings attached.
 

Rosebud

Two Pieces
Member
Apr 16, 2018
43,494
The Turnip Exchange is a neat idea ruined by idiots attempting to charge exorbitant access fees to their islands.

If/when I ever get a Turnip price over 125 bells I'll have unfettered access to anyone that wants to sell their turnips, no strings attached.

I never had a good price, but to be fair you can't play your system while others are in your island. And most ask 99k, when it's easy to make 2m+ in profits.
 
Oct 27, 2017
45,027
Seattle
I just wish there wasn't this idiotic delays/stops when people are coming to the island. Like do we need a stop/animation for when others are coming to the island?
 

Dark Ninja

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,070
Animal Crossing fans have always done this though ever since the GameCube game its how I got the NES games in that one.
 

Protoman200X

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
8,553
N. Vancouver, BC, Canada
I really need to play the turnip game but I know others time skip and it feels less than kosher for me since I don't time skip. It's kind of... a gray middle ground.

But I'm also poor and want stuff.

The only time when I time skipped is when I wanted to avoid the stupid Bunny Day Holiday stuff (it got old REALLY fast when I could only get 1 fish out of 10 casts, as the other 9 were eggs). I know they patched the egg spawn rate, but I didn't care, as most of the furniture was unappealing and Zipper was creepy as hell.
 

Acevil

Member
Oct 30, 2017
315
I'm confused, how is manipulating a system supposed to be something Nintendo should automatically implant to make the online less shitty?
 

Burbank

Member
Sep 9, 2018
854
Pangea
There were great community trading sites also for the original Gamecube game. That game employed a code trade system to let people send items in the in-game mail (even though the game itself was offline).
 

Kthulhu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,670
I'm confused, how is manipulating a system supposed to be something Nintendo should automatically implant to make the online less shitty?

I don't really see how this is abusing anything. If animal crossing is about connecting with people and making friends then I don't see how this contradicts that goal. It's not like people are cheating or anything.
 

Anchelepizze

Alt Account
Banned
Jun 18, 2019
65
I'm confused, how is manipulating a system supposed to be something Nintendo should automatically implant to make the online less shitty?
Everyone I speak to now says Nintendo intended you to swap all your furniture with your friends and abuse the stalk market to repay your house in two weeks, so then you can proceed seeing the numbers go higher while not having much to do and you can go back to blaming Nintendo for making bad games.
 

Protoman200X

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
8,553
N. Vancouver, BC, Canada
I don't really see how this is abusing anything. If animal crossing is about connecting with people and making friends then I don't see how this contradicts that goal. It's not like people are cheating or anything.

Pretty much. I've been constructing an outdoor cafe, but while I had all the appliances I needed, I couldn't secure the tables and chairs, so I asked a bud on the AC discord and she was able to help me out.
 

Brazil

Actual Brazilian
Member
Oct 24, 2017
18,403
São Paulo, Brazil
I don't really see how this is abusing anything. If animal crossing is about connecting with people and making friends then I don't see how this contradicts that goal. It's not like people are cheating or anything.
They didn't say "abusing" - they said "manipulating". These websites clearly don't represent what Nintendo wants to do with the game natively.

I don't mind people using them, but to paint this as a "fix" for the game is very silly when they're just straight-up not a part of the creator's intent.
 

Acevil

Member
Oct 30, 2017
315
I don't really see how this is abusing anything. If animal crossing is about connecting with people and making friends then I don't see how this contradicts that goal. It's not like people are cheating or anything.

I personally just mean how the OP started the premise of this thread. Like the thread goes with negativity to start, before going into positive. I think people connecting with people is awesome, even if the turnip exchange is somewhat questionable by some of the hosts.

They didn't say "abusing" - they said "manipulating". These websites clearly don't represent what Nintendo wants to do with the game natively.

I don't mind people using them, but to paint this as a "fix" for the game is very silly when they're just straight-up not a part of the creator's intent.

This also summed it up perfectly. Like I would love to comment on how Nintendo could actually improve the online experience, but I don't feel turnip exchange site, would be one of them?
 

Alszem

Member
Jan 1, 2018
99
The stalk market community is garbage:

-Reddit is full of bots and most people don't reply.
-Gamefaqs is full of scammers and people who don't reply.
-Good luck getting a spot in a queue on Turnip Exchange.

I haven't tried posting in the turnip thread here, but nobody acknowledges my posts in the regular AC thread, so I'm not tempted to try.
 

Expy

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,860
Animal Crossing New Horizons' online is absolutely terrible.

Forced cut-scenes for everyone everytime someone joins or leaves the island. Constant loading, saving... Terrible.
 

dep9000

Banned
Mar 31, 2020
5,401
Does the turnip exchange break the game? Is this being used as Nintendo intended? I guess it's cool to get a lot of bells early on and upgrade everything, but I dunno....I think I'd rather take my time. I haven't yet, but I may engage with the turnip exchange a little to supplement my income.
 

Kthulhu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,670
They didn't say "abusing" - they said "manipulating". These websites clearly don't represent what Nintendo wants to do with the game natively.

I don't mind people using them, but to paint this as a "fix" for the game is very silly when they're just straight-up not a part of the creator's intent.

I personally think it would be a huge improvement to implement something like the furniture site as people wouldn't be encouraged to time travel to get the furniture they want, which is something the devs have openly said they don't want people to do, but obviously cannot stop.
 

hydruxo

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,409
The real problem with the online in New Horizons is the absolutely baffling decision to have your game interrupted by every single person who arrives or leaves your island. The island owner and everyone already on it having to sit through unskippable cutscenes and animations repeatedly is just insane. If you open up your island for people from Era to come sell their turnips? Good luck. You'll be sitting there for god knows how long and with all the interruptions and it'll take people ages to actually get to the shop because every few seconds a new person will arrive and interrupt them.

Then you also have to sit through 10+ dialogue boxes just to open your gate or connect to online to go to someone else's island. Oh and not to mention if someone disconnects, it kicks everyone and often won't autosave what you've bought or acquired on the island so you'll just end up loading back onto your island empty handed. The way online is handled in this game is completely archaic for 2020 when there are countless online games that let you drop in and drop out of another player's game with no interruptions. The game is great overall, but they need to be called out for the online being so poorly designed.
 

Rosebud

Two Pieces
Member
Apr 16, 2018
43,494
Upgrading your house is the only way to get more storage, so people want to pay it early of course.
 

Buckle

Member
Oct 27, 2017
41,038
Online gaming has been figured out and perfected for a long time on PC. Already in the days of Xbox 360, console games showed with stuff like Halo 3, the console version of Minecraft, etc. that you can have proper community tools, solid servers, and whatnot in a single package. Games like FIFA had trading marketplaces for over a decade. But this generation we still get dumb stuff like Destiny having no matchmaking for raids, or Nintendo... well, just about everything about Nintendo is just baffling. Super Mario Party's online only consisted of a minigame shuffle mode, can't play the board games which are literally the point of the game. Super Mario Odyssey's coop is disappointing and can't be played online. The Pokémon games have enormous limitations and a once free feature is now paid.

Now there's Animal Crossing with this obnoxious system where you always gotta wait for that plane landing animation which blocks all players, no proper server searches or matchmaking of sorts. The game just expects you to organize your business elsewhere. It's frankly unacceptable in 2020 and it's too bad more fuss isn't made about it.
Nintendo is deathly afraid of the internet.
 

Adulfzen

Member
Oct 29, 2017
3,606
Definitely think custom designs from other users should be available to download on a browser in the game for at least your close friends but I also understand they don't want the headache of having lewd or offensive designs posted.

Maybe they could have like "trusted" creators posting stuff weekly.
 

Brewster123

Self-Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,456
Charlottesville, VA
I haven't tried posting in the turnip thread here, but nobody acknowledges my posts in the regular AC thread, so I'm not tempted to try.
Its actually quite a nice place. Everyone is pretty respectful and to my knowledge, no-one overtly gates their town behind entry fees.

Also, I see a lot of people here talking about the public end of turnip exchange. You can make your islands private and it will set up an orderly queue without you having to dm everyone. Most people in the turnip thread use it just to organize trips; its a pretty useful tool if nothing else.
 
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Oct 27, 2017
5,345
I don't think Nintendo expected everyone to be rich and pay all house expansions on the first week, so I'm gonna go with "it's cool, but that's not how you're supposed to be playing the game"
 

ArkkAngel007

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
4,989
None of these really fix the online issues though, just make it easier for people to organize in a way most devs wouldn't build in generally. Turnip.exchange smooths out mass invites a bit, but not by much.

The stalk market community is garbage:

-Reddit is full of bots and most people don't reply.
-Gamefaqs is full of scammers and people who don't reply.
-Good luck getting a spot in a queue on Turnip Exchange.

I haven't tried posting in the turnip thread here, but nobody acknowledges my posts in the regular AC thread, so I'm not tempted to try.
I haven't had a ton of issues here. Keep in mind as someone posts a dodo code, they're swamped with individual invites and attempting to bring people in waves so that the constant travel animations and loads don't weigh down the process.
With the turnip.exchange, it's easier getting everyone queued up, but the control over arrivals beyond the first island limit is gone as someone flies in as soon as the slot is freed up and can put in the unlocked dodo code, which slows everything up. Not to mention when hosts let people run around the shops or fish in stormy weather or other non-turnip activities, that can slow up the queue movement.

But overall the Era community has been pretty great trying to accommodate everyone. Just takes a bit of luck getting in ahead of the crowds.
 

selfnoise

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,449
I actually laughed out loud when I saw how useless the custom design thing was in the tailor shop.

Also, if Nintendo didn't expect this kind of thing after putting the Stalk Market in, they need to hire an economist. Or another one.

The visiting system is so insanely laborious that it actually feels like going to a real airport.
 

julian

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,748
The stalk market community is garbage:

-Reddit is full of bots and most people don't reply.
-Gamefaqs is full of scammers and people who don't reply.
-Good luck getting a spot in a queue on Turnip Exchange.

I haven't tried posting in the turnip thread here, but nobody acknowledges my posts in the regular AC thread, so I'm not tempted to try.
It's been pretty great overall. Everybody has been very nice. They set up the turnip.exchange and if it crashes set it back up. Only real issues are around how the game itself handles multiple visitors and how long waiting in the queue can take.
 

LavaBadger

Member
Nov 14, 2017
4,986
The tools people have created are pretty cool. There are definitely some shortcomings in the UI for this game even if the exact degree to which some people are using some of the features of this game is outside of what Nintendo no doubt intended, and these tools do a nice job of bridging that gap.

But, the manner in which people use some of these tools or are inconsiderate of the games mechanical shortcomings can be exceedingly shitty too. Charging huge fees, or even just having someone cut in front of my to leave an island from out turnip exchange thread the other day (Something trivial, but just a jerk move) reminded me that while Animal Crossing is a fun and wholesome game, that doesn't mean the people playing it have that mindset. A lot of this would feel a lot less grating if people were polite and didn't, say, spam requests to join an island after it tells you there is interference, or insist on making multiple trips for turnips because they have several inventories full.
 

Shoes

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,586
I'm very grateful that the community has such dedicated fans and talented web developers to try to salvage this.

The fact that the online experience is about the same quality as it was in Wild World 15 years ago is unforgivable. They even stepped back from New Leaf by not allowing you to access storage while visiting others.

I also pretty much refuse to believe anyone at Nintendo felt the experience of having 8 online visitors at once is acceptable. It's honestly unplayable due to the loading screens and the weird way the game handles communication errors by booting people back to the airport without saving.
 

jotun?

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,487
Animal Crossing as a whole seems designed to pad out play time with animations, dialog, etc. that are 10x longer than they need to be
 
OP
OP

Everywhere

Banned
Jun 12, 2019
2,104
The stalk market community is garbage:

-Reddit is full of bots and most people don't reply.
-Gamefaqs is full of scammers and people who don't reply.
-Good luck getting a spot in a queue on Turnip Exchange.

I haven't tried posting in the turnip thread here, but nobody acknowledges my posts in the regular AC thread, so I'm not tempted to try.
Sorry you had a bad experience, but I've been turniping since first weekend and it's been working great. I used that website today and it was flaw free. I'd say give turnip trade another try?
 
Oct 27, 2017
42,700
Less amazing by asking money to come...
I don't get the problem with this. If you're making 1 million+ on turnips then asking for 99k is a drop in the bucket and it's only the people with crazy high prices charging that. If you've hosted people for visiting you know it's a HUGE pain. You basically can't play the game during the duration of people taking trips

The stalk market community is garbage:

-Reddit is full of bots and most people don't reply.
-Gamefaqs is full of scammers and people who don't reply.
-Good luck getting a spot in a queue on Turnip Exchange.

I haven't tried posting in the turnip thread here, but nobody acknowledges my posts in the regular AC thread, so I'm not tempted to try.
Legit used turnip exchange for the first time today. Got in and out in like 15 minutes. Would do again. Only use codes from communities you trust and it's fine
 

LavaBadger

Member
Nov 14, 2017
4,986
I don't get the problem with this. If you're making 1 million+ on turnips then asking for 99k is a drop in the bucket and it's only the people with crazy high prices charging that. If you've hosted people for visiting you know it's a HUGE pain. You basically can't play the game during the duration of people taking trips

I always leave 99k regardless of how much I made, because even if I made 600k, that's still a huge amount, and it is super nice for someone to open their island. And lest we forget, this is just a game and the money really does not matter.

But, I do think the whole, "You have to pay me" thing is shitty. Whenever I see that, regardless of their selling price, I never go to those people. I will always choose a "tips appreciated" person.
 

ClickyCal'

Member
Oct 25, 2017
59,487
Online gaming has been figured out and perfected for a long time on PC. Already in the days of Xbox 360, console games showed with stuff like Halo 3, the console version of Minecraft, etc. that you can have proper community tools, solid servers, and whatnot in a single package. Games like FIFA had trading marketplaces for over a decade. But this generation we still get dumb stuff like Destiny having no matchmaking for raids, or Nintendo... well, just about everything about Nintendo is just baffling. Super Mario Party's online only consisted of a minigame shuffle mode, can't play the board games which are literally the point of the game. Super Mario Odyssey's coop is disappointing and can't be played online. The Pokémon games have enormous limitations and a once free feature is now paid.

Now there's Animal Crossing with this obnoxious system where you always gotta wait for that plane landing animation which blocks all players, no proper server searches or matchmaking of sorts. The game just expects you to organize your business elsewhere. It's frankly unacceptable in 2020 and it's too bad more fuss isn't made about it.
Odyssey wasn't really designed as a co-op game. The cappy co-op is more like the one in the galaxy games and not like 3d world with full on multiplayer. Odyssey is another sm64 or sunshine.
 
OP
OP

Everywhere

Banned
Jun 12, 2019
2,104
Turnip Exchange is being used for other reasons too, I have seen people hosting for Celeste, Kicks and other special NPCs.

Why would we not want an in-game online hub like that?
 

Cubo

Member
May 14, 2018
506
Yesterday I sold my turnips for 500 bells in an island I saw on twitter, and it felt a bit like cheating. The whole week I had been talking to close family and friends about their turnip prices but yesterday I gave in. Even Tom Nook told me I was so quick paying my mortgage :p.

I agree with those saying that the game was not designed to take such advantange of the internet, so these websites are not salvaging anything (the things that need to be fixed they can't help, only Nintendo can change it). Still it's only natural (and cool, actually) that the community does this things, even if it goes a bit against the philosophy of the game. And it's also the only means for people that don't have anyone else close playing the game.

Turnip Exchange is being used for other reasons too, I have seen people hosting for Celeste, Kicks and other special NPCs.

Why would we not want an in-game online hub like that?

The thing is this is being used by a lot of people (myself included) to get everything, now. And that's ok but it's also not what the creators of the game intended. The same would happen with an in-game hub. It would still be cool to be able to go and check some islands that were open to the public and "safe" for everyone without needing a code, invitation or whatever.
 
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Ed.

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
650
The stalk market community is garbage:

-Reddit is full of bots and most people don't reply.
-Gamefaqs is full of scammers and people who don't reply.
-Good luck getting a spot in a queue on Turnip Exchange.

I haven't tried posting in the turnip thread here, but nobody acknowledges my posts in the regular AC thread, so I'm not tempted to try.
The Discord and the turnip thread here have been great for me. I have done it several times. People have been nice, and I've always been able to get spots to sell turnips.
 

LavaBadger

Member
Nov 14, 2017
4,986
Turnip Exchange is being used for other reasons too, I have seen people hosting for Celeste, Kicks and other special NPCs.

Why would we not want an in-game online hub like that?

Alternatively, the creators made the game such that these characters are not meant to be present or available all the time. It's meant to be a special occurrence. Hosting these characters removes that element. You may not agree with the design decision, but it clearly feels intentional.
 

pokeystaples

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,347
I'm glad people who are into turnip exchange and buying things outright have the option. Not really my thing, I like the randomness and chance that comes from the stores and the drops. Being able to flat out scoop things kinda removes a part of the gameplay for me. But I'm glad people have options.

I just want to be able to make my wife my best friend in game so I can mail her things, but that doesn't work if you only do local play. Can someone salvage that for me? Lol.