Wasn't 2015 down from 2014? Because if I recall the sales of the AC bundle in 2014 created the delusion that things were picking up but it crashed?
I thought the slim in 2016 is where things started picking up.
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February 2018 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes Tuesday, March 13th
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Wasn't 2015 down from 2014? Because if I recall the sales of the AC bundle in 2014 created the delusion that things were picking up but it crashed?
I thought the slim in 2016 is where things started picking up.
Yeah that's a good point, getting PS4Pro upgrades your existing library whereas you have to buy a new one if you switch to One X. Would be interesting to see a more recent breakdown of PS4s/pro sales, hopefully Mat can shine a light here. Maybe the PS4 Pro is the thing causing the abnormally level plateau of PS4 sales for the past two/three years. If so, Sony will be very happy with the introduction. Not for MAU necessarily, but certainly for sustained consumer spending.
As a parent.. that's not really how it works ;P
I buy stuff for my kids all year long.. wen tax returns.. it's time to treat myself :>
Ps4
and that's with the Xbox being cheaper, wow.
Well we don't know US splits, but in Japan some weeks are even 50:50 now.
Even tho, Japan always was a little higher in favour of Ps4 Pro. (up to 30%, when the WW average was stated at 20% from Sony)
Exactly, but before this very strong February for Ps4 i would've guessed Xbox come in #1 in March. Now i'm not certain at all anymore.
April will be a super interesting month. Are there God of War fans that don't have a PS4 yet (or are people willing to upgrade to Pro for it)? Will Labo blow up immediately, or be a slow burn until Christmas? Can Sea of Thieves generate enough hype to have a sustained effect on Xbox sales? Can go every which way imo.
People should also be aware of retail tracking periods.
March NPD runs through 7th April this year and will include the first 3 weeks of Sea of Thieves and 2 weeks of MLB The Show.
March NPD runs through 7th April this year and will include the first 3 weeks of Sea of Thieves and 2 weeks of MLB The Show.
Does MLB really move consoles? It's an annual franchise so I imagine most people interested in it already have a PS4.
Wait when does crackdown 3 and state of decay coming out? Aren't those supposed to come out within the next month or two?
State of decay comes out May 25th. Crackdown doesn't have a date
Not sure about moving consoles, but it's an extremely successful titel in the US and moves a lot of units.
It was the 10th best selling game on Ps4 last year.
And even if the games does not attract new customers, it could make some Ps4 owner upgrade to Ps4 Pro for the game and in anticipation for God of War.
I just wanted to point out, that MLB is always a late March release date and often just a few days of tracking, but this year it's 2 weeks.
So weird to read Ps4 and stock shortage in the same sentence 4 years after launch.
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Great question...If I'm not mistaken (and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong), with the exception of Switch's launch in 2017, PS4 has won every one of MLB's NPD launch months ( 2014, 2015 & 2016)...Is that because of MLB, I don't know, but the only major AAA exclusive competition it ever had was Quantum Break in 2016 (and the aforementioned Switch & Zelda, which again, did win MLB's 2017 launch month)
As mentioned above, there's the Pro upgrade route, adding additional sales from existing PS4 owners. A double combo of MLB and GoW could be what pushes some over the edge. The GoW Pro console is also quite distinctive.
At this stage in the lifecycle everything's relative. Sure, many MLB fans will already own a PS4, but there'll still be people coming into the gen late on. When we move onto next gen these genres still continue to be made for 'old' systems.
Maybe all those people buying it for PS4 due to the larger community?
PSVR was promoted, could have got people to buy in. Albeit not at huge rates.
I guess I can understand people upgrading to Pro model for a game, though tbh MLB isn't the game I see people doing it for.
It's interesting that PS4 won every March except last year, I wonder how much is that related to Xbox just not being a good competition than MLB.
It's interesting that PS4 won every March except last year, I wonder how much is that related to Xbox just not being a good competition than MLB.
Yeah tax returns could have been a good moment to splurge on something relatively excessive as PSVR, but I haven't heard anything about PSVR selling well.
Thanks!
I didn't see anyone post what the numbers would be so this is what I get.
PS4: ~363K (-9% YoY)
XB1: ~310K (+44% YoY)
NSW: ~279K
OTH: ~137K
3DS: ~103K
Xbox One has had its best January and February this year.
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So with all those promotions Xbox couldn't win NPD? Last time Xbox won NPD was in October 2016. This is Xbox's strongest market?
btw I was sure that because MHW Switch wouldn't win January - And switch won January. Because that win I was sure that Switch would win and February - Switch ended in third place.
btw I was sure that because MHW Switch wouldn't win January - And switch won January. Because that win I was sure that Switch would win and February - Switch ended in third place.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Still, irrespective of having a temporary price drop for two weeks, the Xbox One is up YoY in both January and February respectively. I can probably safely assume that the Xbox One has reached 36 million units by now too, unless Welfare suggests otherwise?
The Ps4 is just continously strong on its own. It's hard to beat the market leader.
I'm sure tho Xbox One will win one ore more months this year, but what does it really matter if the console will outsell the Ps4 by 10k units in May for example, the lowest month of the year anyway.
I guess the Ps4 performance this February was the the most surprising one for all.
I'm sure tho Xbox One will win one ore more months this year, but what does it really matter if the console will outsell the Ps4 by 10k units in May for example, the lowest month of the year anyway.
I guess the Ps4 performance this February was the the most surprising one for all.
Zedark posted estimations but it was literally ignored for some reason.
Not as bad for the Switch as I originally thought. The PS4 just killed it dang.
Well PS4 sells an avg. of 700-900k units per month in this quarter (using the avg. of previous years).
This year only Japan sold near 500k in 4 weeks... it is fair to see why Sony didn't have enough units to sent to Japan in this slow quarter.
February seems to have had good sales all around.
- PS4's performance was very good considering no new software releases to speak of and no price cuts. I would be curious to see how much PS Plus subs are increasing each year as well.
- Xbone seems to be turning around somewhat and had much better sales vs disastrous last year.
- Switch is chugging along quite well. Release calendar for the year seems to be pretty good for the next few month.
In short, despite lootboxes and other BS, gaming industry is doing quite well. Any reports on mobile gaming performance in US?
- PS4's performance was very good considering no new software releases to speak of and no price cuts. I would be curious to see how much PS Plus subs are increasing each year as well.
- Xbone seems to be turning around somewhat and had much better sales vs disastrous last year.
- Switch is chugging along quite well. Release calendar for the year seems to be pretty good for the next few month.
In short, despite lootboxes and other BS, gaming industry is doing quite well. Any reports on mobile gaming performance in US?
Me thinks you do not know what "literally" means.
Switch being third place and still having a strong result means the industry is in a great place right now.
Switch is on cruise control right now, February was especially dire in terms of new games. We'll see next investor's meeting if it's in line with their expectations and whether it paid off for them. But looking at the next few months I don't see it picking up at all, unless Labo blows up. I don't expect Switch to be on top until Smash at this rate. But it'll probably sell steadily enough.
On a personal note I find it a shame that they would leave the first few months of the year so empty after all the momentum they had this holiday.
On a personal note I find it a shame that they would leave the first few months of the year so empty after all the momentum they had this holiday.
Monster Hunter was released on January 26th but clearly all of it's impact came in the month of February. I'd be really curious to see what the split ratio for that title was.
EDIT: Also, the Shadow of the Colossus remake came out. I'm sure that had some impact.
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I'm not saying Switch is doing bad though, but clearly it suffered from a drought, and I believe a lot of Switch owners would agree with me that Switch was on a drought.
I was just poking fun at you for using "literally" incorrectly, which literally everyone on the internet seems to do.
Even me!
I was.
Anyone who took into account the big surge in Monster Hunter sales, DBFIGHTERZ and US tax returns probably called it. Especially when Monster hunter released close end of January and then Shadow of the collossus remake came out early Feb probably helped too.
You can somewhat look at February 2018 and compare it to March 2014
March 2014
PS4: 371K
XB1: 311K
February 2018
PS4: ~363K
XB1: ~310K
You would think given the circumstances in both months, Xbox would win, yet PS4 pulls ahead by a large margin. Also both months sold similar units.
The preceding months to these, February 2014 and January 2018, PS4 and Xbox One were also close.
February 2014
PS4: 269K
XB1: 258K
January 2018
PS4: ~254K
XB1: ~235K
March 2014
PS4: 371K
XB1: 311K
February 2018
PS4: ~363K
XB1: ~310K
You would think given the circumstances in both months, Xbox would win, yet PS4 pulls ahead by a large margin. Also both months sold similar units.
The preceding months to these, February 2014 and January 2018, PS4 and Xbox One were also close.
February 2014
PS4: 269K
XB1: 258K
January 2018
PS4: ~254K
XB1: ~235K
I agree that it's a shame, but Switch' current line up is not particularly worse than PS4 and XB1 May through August. (And I think Labo could hold its own against God of War.)
What is the LTD gap? I know it surpassed 3M already. I'm guessing it's 3.2-3.3M in favor of PS4 now?
It is actually below 3M right now. +2.9M
The large December lead for Xbox brought the gap down.
Dozens of games release every week on the Switch and smaller retail releases in February also happened. And doing 30k less than a console apparently not having a drought would be a good result regardless.
What is a drought.
A drought is Bayonetta ports being your biggest games for the month.
So PS4 is more than 40% up MoM from January and Xbox One more than 30%. So much for PS4 and Xbox One not gaining momentum. In other words the Switch was about the same as in January and the other two gained massively.