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FF14 as a Singleplayer entry should have been FF15
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Your right, I guess they've all followed more deviating paths from each other than they did before, besides the shift to 3D on PS ofcourse.
ARR as a whole is slow in large chunks, but overall it ends extremely strong assuming you haven't started skipping cutscenes. Heavensward is less slow but still has portions that felt somewhat tedious, but the overall package was great. Stormblood is a cacophony of twists and turns and promises fulfilled from all the way back in 1.0. This even extends to the side-stories, they're all well told and expand on the lore in very interesting ways. The current patch is the best thing they've ever done with narrative, and I have no idea where the story is going now. That's a good thing.
Would usually disagree with you, but your right. They need something refreshing for XVI.
Man I can't to get to Heavensward to see all the fuss myself, but powering through ARR's story comprised of a glut of busywork is a chore.
Same. I'm just really hoping XVI goes back to valuing good cinematic direction and having a memorable journey for the main story.
Because of XIV, I kind of feel oversaturated with "hard-fantasy" FF, that I kinda want a steampunk/modern FF again to balance out all of the hi-fantasy going on, even in JRPGs.
WTF, tanks in my Finaru Fantaji??!
And that crazy, medieval as fuck submarine in FFV! ;)
The best thing about every other Final Fantasy is that they are not Final Fantasy XV.
This can be said about almost every game ever created.
This can be said about almost every game ever created.
I'd personally prefer what the mission for mainline FF has always been: Creating new worlds to explore and not returning to tried and true formulas/characters/worlds.
I feel like returning to Ivalice would be a betrayal of what it is to be a mainline FF.
I believe it gets better, but it's partially a time investment thing. I could see that the game relied heavily on constantly giving the player a written objective and a quest marker and showering them with rewards at every corner, and I know how that ends. Lately I've been wanting games that encourage and incentivize exploration rather than "perform this checklist" and FFXIV just couldn't provide that.
^^^That's the spirit.
Returning to Ivalice would set a dangerous precedent. Becuase then why create anything new when you can go back to the well and do more games in Spira, Gaia, Eos, Ivalice, Gran Pluse?
man ffxiv is the only game I got burnt out on twice and that's with a sixteen month break in between, the forced story quests to get to expansion content really wears you out man.
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And I have to eat it up and shut up, good idea. Maybe you should just not post in these topics or put people with different opinions on ignore?
One of the "biggest" Side Quest was this guy in FF15:
Yes, other Final Fantasys also had anime/fantasy stuff and "realistic" stuff mixed, but FF15 went all in on the realistic stuff that the fantasy stuff often seemed like an afterthought.
Here you travel with your car, but also here is a Chocobo, because otherwise you wouldn't even fucking know this is a FF game.
Of course it had Tonberry and other iconic monsters, but they did nothing for me because they didn't even really fit the setting. Behemoth was also wasted as a set piece.
I could go on and on what I (as in ME) didn't like. And I still wish FF15 went a different direction.
I don't know, Final Fantasy XV felt a lot like a Final Fantasy game to me. It felt structured like one, and the setting was very much a VI-VIII feel.
It was bad, but so are a lot of other FFs.
It was bad, but so are a lot of other FFs.
XV is an incredibly unique and in many ways beutiful game.
Let's be clear here, a lot of the gameplay issues are awful. Truly awful, and mind-bogglingly ill-thought out.
But the good in XV shines in a way few other games have managed. It perfectly captures the essence of these four close friends going on a road trip, the intimacy involved and the whole experience.
It's a proper feeling of adventure, and the world, while not particularly well explained or developed, is incredibly interesting and feels different from anything else.
This is exactly why I had a problem with sequels back in the day because X-2 did this. It is a slap in the face of FF taking place in different worlds. And, again, sets dangerous precedent.
I vastly prefer the asthetic of the XV we got so no thanks.
You have your XIV. It's called XIV.
You have your XIV. It's called XIV.
Yeah, I definitely saw that. However I think for me the issues you mentioned was enough to deter me from finishing it. But it did have some great things about it. Thanks for not yelling at me.
My most important parts of a game are the story and character development.
I think FFXIV is one of the best entries in the series.
I do think FFXV is the worst one in the main series.
The latest expansion, Stormblood, is my favorite so far. One of the best games of 2017 for me.
I think FFXIV is one of the best entries in the series.
I do think FFXV is the worst one in the main series.
The latest expansion, Stormblood, is my favorite so far. One of the best games of 2017 for me.
The reason people want another Ivalice FF is because it has a very detailed and intricate lore/history, and really makes other FF worlds seem surface-level in comparison. Of course, SE could make another world with a history as rich as Ivalice's, but it would be a very hard job to surpass it.
Controversial opinion time.
I vastly prefer the modern/sci-fi Final Fantasies to the medieval/mist-punk ones.
I vastly prefer the modern/sci-fi Final Fantasies to the medieval/mist-punk ones.
XV is a lot like XIV, in that it has fixed many of it's issues since launch.
I mean...Ivalice had two games that built up the lore and world before XII. Something other mainline games don't get.
If you took XII by itself, the lore and story aren't really all that deep. It is only once you play Vagrant Story and Tactics that you realize the lore is bigger than what XII shows.
No. To my understanding that is incorrect.
If that is the case I will lose so much respect for XIV.
WTF, tanks in my Finaru Fantaji??!
Yall gotta go further back lol. Remember this nightmare?
Weird, FFXIV is 65.25 GB while XV is 91.85 on mine. I dont have a pro though, so that might be what's different. I dont have the royal edition of FFXV either, just the original plus season pass.
Mainline Final Fantasy games have had so much baggage for more than 10 years. I'm interested to see what they make now that we are out of the Fabula Nova Crystallis/FFXIII expanded universe fart cloud.
Game engines have been built. Their teams are accustomed to creating games on modern hardware. They won't be repurposing half-made games into something shippable because they are overdue and over budget. I want to see what the designers and artists at SE actually want to make. It feels like they have been creatively stifled by outside circumstances for a long time.
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But the modern/sci-fi old Final Fantasy games went totally bananas. FF7 has a planet throwing Sephiroth Angel as the final boss and FF8 had stuff like Doomtrain etc.
Even the summons in FF15, while awesome from a spectacle standpoint, seem safe and "realistic" in comparison.
And I even thought the final boss of FF15 was OK from a spectacle standpoint, but it didn't really "escalate" like old FFs...
Eh that just never bothered me.
I love FF7, it's my second favorite RPG ever. But I don't need every game to be over the top crazy.
I kinda like XV's weird "real world with monsters and magic" setting.
Now I don't want every FF game to be like that but I don't mind them mixing it up.
Though note I freaking love Persona so I might just be drawn to "urban RPG's."
Final Fantasy XIV's story really can only exist as an MMO. It benefits so much from possibly lasting forever. Some of the most intriguing stuff in FFXIV happens AFTER the final bosses, after the wars have settled and the victors have been decided and the characters have to figure out where to go from here. FFXIV can only exist in this glorious story-telling state because it gets constant revenue from its subscriptions, expansions and Mog Station purchases. Like shit, can you imagine a single-player game having side-content as involved as the Hildibrand quests?
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I also like them mixing it up, but FF15 just went too realistic for me. Aside from the gameplay and story issues of course.
I just think they perfectly encapsulated everything about FF in FF14. You even have your modern/sci-fi faction with the Empire.
Just wanted to let OP know that the wording on his thread title was incredibly confusing. I had to get in to get what he was trying to say.
Nah there is Ivalice in 14 but it's not the same Ivalice as we know it, it's being reinterpreted as part of the world of Hydaelyn.
Highly disagree. Heavensward and onward is what pushed the game (and its narrative) to top 5 FF entry for me.
Heavensward has one of my favorite moments ever in a video game,
What an amazing expansion.
Literally took XIV from a good mmo to my 2nd favorite Final Fantasy.