It's funny how Abiteboul can be so realistic about the team's aero/chassis deficit but then comes up with these pointless fantasy numbers for their engine deficit.
the year is 2082, and the reanimated corpse of kimi raikkonen agrees to a new 2 year deal to drive for ferrari alongside his grandson, robin raikkonen junior
Kimi is finally doing well after some very bad years. Of course it helps that he probably has the strongest package right now. But I'd prefer to see younger drivers get the chance.
He's just consistent, but underwhelming in his consistence. No poles, no wins, in a car that has 4 wins and 5 poles, while even both Red Bull drivers have managed to steal wins. He's on the podium a lot, but that's about what you'd expect from that team when there are no huge mistakes/issues. He wasn't really robbed of wins like Bottas either.
Anything is possible lol
What is with this revisionist history stating that Ferrari never gave Alonso a good car? If I remember right both the 2010 and 2012 cars were pretty good. If he didn't crash out in Spa in 2010 and get caught behind Webber he would've won and I believe he just got cosmically fucked in 2012. Though if I remember right the 2012 car started off like shit and he pretty much had to out drive the package, which he did and was leading the championship by like 40 points at one point. Now the 2014 car was just dog shit and I don't remember what he had to work with in 2013. This is almost like saying Hamlton didn't get good cars at McLaren (he didn't get the proper support or management in my opinion...plus reliability woes...and just mentally had it in 2011).
2010: The Red Bulls had 15 poles that year (before DRS, which I imagine made track position quite important) and the car was only a regular on the podium in the second half of the season. The closeness of the championship was really down to mistakes by Red Bull.
Alonso did a reverse Hamilton, it's pretty much his own damn fault for also being a toxic as fuck person behind the scenes. Hamilton can be a primadonna yes, they all are, but I honestly consider Alonso to be on a wholenuthalevel with that shit.
Red Bull suffered from ...first you have to finish and Vettel making some mistakes if I remember right, but getting people off guard is how you sneak in a championship. Also 2010 was close in my opinion. If you get rid of like one DNF from Alonso or Hamilton then they would've gotten that one. 2012 in my opinion honestly should have went to Hamilton, but we all know what happened there. I think both him and Alonso did some of the best driving of their careers in that year. Alonso got shafted on the track and Hamilton got shafted in the pits.
That car was 3rd - 4th, everyone was talking about how Fernando overdrove those cars. Look at Massa, he got almost the same results as in Williams, look at Kimi, he was nowhere and now is constantly. fighting for podiums. The Ferrari Alonso was driving was at least a whole tier below the car Vettel is driving.
Correct. Alonso never learnt to keep his mouth shut, he could have left Ferrari but keep the door open to return now. But no he has to be a dick, throw the whole team under the bus and make everyone hate him. Ferrari door is closed, Honda hate him too so zero chance of replacing Ric (plus Horner wouln't want his toxic character there). Diplomacy skill: -10.
Hamilton can be a whiner but he supports his team and they have great relations, even after losing to Nico in 2016, he stayed with the team knowing there are still titles to get. Alonso is stubborn. He is by far the driver I have mostly rooted for all these years watching F1, he was my hero who beat MSC, the young talent who impressed everyone driving a Minardi. But still one of the most stubborn drivers on the grid. If he wasn't the great driver he is, he would be long gone from the sport.
Yes I think I did acknowledge that he was a miracle worker that year. Also Massa isn't and has never really been a great benchmark, especially after his crash. Also yeah Kimi being on the podium with the current car does show just how good the current Ferrari is. Alonso would be the worst politician in a Civilization game.
This makes more sense. Ferrari haven't made the best car since 2008. And Ferrari have the best car and Vettel has dropped the ball with it numerous times this year, it's just...weird.
Let's hope nobody figures out a way to weaponize Alonso's salt.
oh ok, yeah I knew he had a track already but I wasn't sure if I missed something about opening a new one or something.
Grabbing both of them would be a great achievement for McLaren. I think the main question is can Ocon retain his Force India seat, because moving to McLaren would be a big downgrade.
