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FIA Formula One 2019 |OT| Oil Mining vs. Energy Drinks vs. Big Tobacco, pick your poison

Oct 26, 2017
7,295
Speaking of McLaren.....why don't they make their own engines? They make hyper cars. Unless they don't make those engines either and i've been living a lie my whole life
They don't make those engines either. Well thats a misnomer. They do, but its not all from scratch their own. Many in recent times used a very modified Nissan

A nice read on them
https://jalopnik.com/this-20-year-old-nissan-is-the-origin-of-all-of-mclaren-1793155467

Here is a video of the new Cosworth v12 engine for the Valkyrie. well worth a watch.
 
Feb 19, 2018
4,405
Feb 19, 2018
4,405
I corrected. They do make them, but its not from an engine design entirely of their own creation.
Okay, so i suppose it's back to my original proposal. They can make their own engine if they were arsed to. With FIA proposing payment for engine supplier, and separate payment to teams (so 2 payments to Ferrari for example) i wonder if they might look into that.
 
Oct 26, 2017
7,295
Okay, so i suppose it's back to my original proposal. They can make their own engine if they were arsed to. With FIA proposing payment for engine supplier, and separate payment to teams (so 2 payments to Ferrari for example) i wonder if they might look into that.
Its more likely they'd acquire someone if they were going to start doing it. Has to be worth the costs and the risks.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,717
Used to watch F1 a lot when I was little, and have gotten more interested in it recently after years of not following it. Saw that Drive to Survive series on Netflix and decided to hop on following it this year. Pardon me for being mostly completely ignorant about the sport aside from this one series I saw. And just a note on the series, Verstappen comes across as a huge dick in it and so does the Force India team for picking Perez over Ocon. Especially since Perez seemed to purposefully push Ocon in that Singapore race.
 
Oct 30, 2017
166
Used to watch F1 a lot when I was little, and have gotten more interested in it recently after years of not following it. Saw that Drive to Survive series on Netflix and decided to hop on following it this year. Pardon me for being mostly completely ignorant about the sport aside from this one series I saw. And just a note on the series, Verstappen comes across as a huge dick in it and so does the Force India team for picking Perez over Ocon. Especially since Perez seemed to purposefully push Ocon in that Singapore race.
That documentary is some drama central, everything in that ' documentary ' was dramatized so badly. I wouldn't really put any stock in it. Just watch as the season goes and have fun
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,717
Yeah I figured it be the case. The documentary makes it seem like the chiefs of the crew keep egging on these rivalries between their own drivers and it just seems to be to the detriment of the team at the end. The one in charge for Haas has some really asshole-ish jokes about Grosjean during that dinner that I thought were just unnecessary.
 
Oct 30, 2017
166
Yeah I figured it be the case. The documentary makes it seem like the chiefs of the crew keep egging on these rivalries between their own drivers and it just seems to be to the detriment of the team at the end. The one in charge for Haas has some really asshole-ish jokes about Grosjean during that dinner that I thought were just unnecessary.
The only legitimate drama about it is Horner's and Cyrils. Those two aren't gonna stop bickering at each other like a divorced couple.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,717
The only legitimate drama about it is Horner's and Cyrils. Those two aren't gonna stop bickering at each other like a divorced couple.
Yeah that whole bit was kind of a funny exchange with all the drama in it. I wonder how much these people are making with these jobs.

Also, question what's up with two teams basically being from Red Bull?
 
Oct 30, 2017
166
Yeah that whole bit was kind of a funny exchange with all the drama in it. I wonder how much these people are making with these jobs.

Also, question what's up with two teams basically being from Red Bull?
If you watched F1 before I'm sure you know the team called Minardi, Minardi was sold to Red bulls owner so they now have two teams.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,717
If you watched F1 before I'm sure you know the team called Minardi, Minardi was sold to Red bulls owner so they now have two teams.
Just for you to have a notion of how long I haven't watched F1, the last thing I remember about it of when I still activelly followed is that there was a pilot named Irvine who raced for the team that had green cars. And since I was a kid, I only cared about it because the cars were green and the dude's name was something I thought sounded cool.
 
Oct 30, 2017
166
Just for you to have a notion of how long I haven't watched F1, the last thing I remember about it of when I still activelly followed is that there was a pilot named Irvine who raced for the team that had green cars. And since I was a kid, I only cared about it because the cars were green and the dude's name was something I thought sounded cool.
You're probably talking about Eddie Irvine driving for Jordan Grand Prix, Minardi was indeed racing at that time. But yea Minardi was sold to Dietrich Mateschitz who owns Red bull so now they just have two teams. But welcome aboard man, i hope you enjoy the ride in this circus called F1 all over again. Its a wonderful sport to follow if i say so myself.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,717
You're probably talking about Eddie Irvine driving for Jordan Grand Prix, Minardi was indeed racing at that time. But yea Minardi was sold to Dietrich Mateschitz who owns Red bull so now they just have two teams. But welcome aboard man, i hope you enjoy the ride in this circus called F1 all over again. Its a wonderful sport to follow if i say so myself.
Huh, had no idea that red bull was austrian. Kind of sucks that they have two teams but it's odd that one seems to be so much better than the other?

Yeah it's fun to be back in it, I have some friends who are really into the sport so it'll be fun following along again.
 
Oct 30, 2017
166
Huh, had no idea that red bull was austrian. Kind of sucks that they have two teams but it's odd that one seems to be so much better than the other?

Yeah it's fun to be back in it, I have some friends who are really into the sport so it'll be fun following along again.
Yeah they're basically two different teams that operate differently but they're both owned by Red bull. Red bull main team also spends more money on the sport that Toro Rosso that's why one is better than the other. One operates on Milton Keynes and one operates in Italy
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,717
Yeah they're basically two different teams that operate differently but they're both owned by Red bull. Red bull main team also spends more money on the sport that Toro Rosso that's why one is better than the other. One operates on Milton Keynes and one operates in Italy
Ah I see, kind of blows that one has so much more focus. Don't really understand the point behind that but ok I guess.
 
Oct 30, 2017
166
Ah I see, kind of blows that one has so much more focus. Don't really understand the point behind that but ok I guess.
Don't quote me on this but i think Red bull has been trying to sell Toro Rosso for years but unfortunately no one has been biting, formula one is really an expensive sport so there aren't alot of interested manufacturers.
 
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Oct 24, 2017
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Just for you to have a notion of how long I haven't watched F1, the last thing I remember about it of when I still activelly followed is that there was a pilot named Irvine who raced for the team that had green cars. And since I was a kid, I only cared about it because the cars were green and the dude's name was something I thought sounded cool.
The team was Jaguar, from when they were still owned by Ford. That team is now Red Bull.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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You're probably talking about Eddie Irvine driving for Jordan Grand Prix, Minardi was indeed racing at that time. But yea Minardi was sold to Dietrich Mateschitz who owns Red bull so now they just have two teams. But welcome aboard man, i hope you enjoy the ride in this circus called F1 all over again. Its a wonderful sport to follow if i say so myself.
Oh, and by the way, the team once known as Tyrrell is now the best one on the grid.
 
Feb 19, 2018
4,405
Mercedes and Ferrari just look like theyre chucking fucking haymakers at each other. Have they been told it's not qualifying yet? Also, leclerc is looking good
 
Oct 27, 2017
434
How do you fuck up car development so bad?
Like. Williams is looking like those joke teams from the 90's. Holy shit. Like, at what point did they realize they had a shit car?
Maybe Claire should go. But you can't tell me this isn't on Lowe's ass too.
 
Feb 19, 2018
4,405
How do you fuck up car development so bad?
Like. Williams is looking like those joke teams from the 90's. Holy shit. Like, at what point did they realize they had a shit car?
Maybe Claire should go. But you can't tell me this isn't on Lowe's ass too.
Williams refuses to change with the times. In the F1 Netflix documentary, Claire Williams has a speech that she'd rather die than have them become a b team. It doesn't exactly seem to harm HAAS or any of the others. The upper management just comes off as delusional at this point
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,797
Looks like the new tyre warming blanket regs means that top teams.can no longer just do one lap per session and put.

They need many warm up laps to warm up and extract the potential from the tyres.