Looks pretty shiny in these shots
Looks pretty shiny in these shots
F1 is investing where the car industry is. When the industry is ready to move on from fossil fuel, so will F1. But we already had enough whining when moving to V6 Turbo era. Imagine going the Formula E way.For all their investment in marketing via sports built on carbon-neutral mobility (sailing, cycling) there's no hiding that Ineos' core business is digging up dead dinosaurs to burn. And Mercedes extending their partnership rubs me the wrong way. As if we needed any more evidence than F1 will never shake free of the fossil fuel money.
F1 is investing where the car industry is. When the industry is ready to move on from fossil fuel, so will F1. But we already had enough whining when moving to V6 Turbo era. Imagine going the Formula E way.
Synthetic fuels are not insignificant by any stretch of the imagination, so I'm not sure I'd agree with that statement.By far and away the biggest investments in technology in the automotive industry are in electrification.
F1 is investing where the car industry is. When the industry is ready to move on from fossil fuel, so will F1. But we already had enough whining when moving to V6 Turbo era. Imagine going the Formula E way.
I agree with that, I don't want to keep burning fuels either but that's a general issue with car industry right now. If we can switch to electro engines or other green fuels and keep the performance I'm perfectly fine.People always whine at every single change. Compared to the limitless limitless tech of the 70's and the endless spending of the early 00's, Formula 1 is nothing like it used to be, and looking at the numbers it seems to be surviving just fine. If Formula 1 turns fully electric one day, people will moan for a while then it will become the normality like every other change before. Because 99.99% are in for the speed, the side-by-side action, the thrills, the crashes. The cars could be fueled by the drivers' own sweat they generate during the race for all they care, as long as they blast 300kph+ on the straights most people will stick around.
Synthetic fuels are not insignificant by any stretch of the imagination, so I'm not sure I'd agree with that statement.
On the subject of "best driver" I think this analysis from a redditor is pretty much the best I've seen:
https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2019/11/22/the-f1metrics-top-100/
It's biased towards modern drivers because of improved training standards, but comparing between drivers of the same era I think it does pretty well.
Very hard to argue with that top 7 for sure. It was a great article and a very interesting read. Hopefully Alonso can come back in 2021 so we can see him and Hamilton fight it out one last time too :)
I jumped in F1 too late to see Alonso performing. All I witnessed of him were poor results at McLaren and his incredible winey reactions. So it'd love to see where the praise comes from.
His 2010 and 2012 season had him driving what was occasionally the fastest car, but much more often the 2nd or even the 3rd fastest car, regularly to insane results, both times narrowly missing out on the title against far superior machinery. His 2012 campaign, in particular, was basically perfect, and was unlucky to lose a 40 point lead due to a double retirment between Spa and Monza: the first he had 0 fault in, the second too being a racing incident too.
Or 2011. Spain comes to mind: he got lapped that race, so far behind that Ferrari was in terms of pure pace. He outstarted the grid however and led the first stint, accumulating the rest of the gap after the pitstop.
Or to go farther back, check out Hungary 2006. Started in the back of a grid of a rainy race for a penalty, in a couple laps he was already challenging the leaders.
There's many, many cases one can think of, even outside of Formula 1: he won the 24 Hours of Le Mans on his first try with a stellar pace, he fought for the win leading for many laps and having the fastest average laptime on his first Indy500 attempt, with the race ending with an engine failure for him.
Talent like Alonso doesn't come 'round often. In modern F1 I would say only Michael Schumacher was more capable at extracting race-winning performance from cars that are far from being the best (1997 comes in mind). The reason why Hamilton tends to fare lower in such lists is because he did come with a bombastic debut (2007-2008 were incredible), but his next seasons were very much hit or miss. In the case of 2010 and 2012 that I mentioned for Alonso, Hamilton actually had a better car than Alonso most of the time, and yet ended up below between often inferior pace and errors (although he did stay in the title fight himself for long). Hamilton's most perfect/dominant seasons came when he had a car that were miles beyond anyone else, or at least on par with the opposition.
Likewise, this is why you don't see Vettel in the top 7: bombastic debut, became a machine by like 2013 when he would barely make an error with his unbeatable machinery, but he crumbled a lot under pressure in years where it wasn't clear cut. Hell, he almost lost 2010 and 2012 despite having a dominant car, and in 2018 he had a legit shot at the title only to start accumulating big errors around the middle of the season and not truly recovering since.
Alonso was regularly destroying his teammates, constantly scoring far higher than his car would suffice. For many years he was voted as the best driver in F1 by team principals as well, even in seasons like 2011 where Vettel dominated. There's a reason for that, and you only really need to look at what others did in his same machinery.
Great post. Only one thing about Hungary 2006. Michelin tyres had an absurd performance advantage over the Bridgestone in intermediate / wet conditions. To put things into perspective in China after the quali session in wet conditions MSC was the only "bridgestone driver" in the top 10 and qualified 6th.His 2010 and 2012 season had him driving what was occasionally the fastest car, but much more often the 2nd or even the 3rd fastest car, regularly to insane results, both times narrowly missing out on the title against far superior machinery. His 2012 campaign, in particular, was basically perfect, and was unlucky to lose a 40 point lead due to a double retirment between Spa and Monza: the first he had 0 fault in, the second too being a racing incident too.
Or 2011. Spain comes to mind: he got lapped that race, so far behind that Ferrari was in terms of pure pace. He outstarted the grid however and led the first stint, accumulating the rest of the gap after the pitstop.
Or to go farther back, check out Hungary 2006. Started in the back of a grid of a rainy race for a penalty, in a couple laps he was already challenging the leaders.
There's many, many cases one can think of, even outside of Formula 1: he won the 24 Hours of Le Mans on his first try with a stellar pace, he fought for the win leading for many laps and having the fastest average laptime on his first Indy500 attempt, with the race ending with an engine failure for him.
Talent like Alonso doesn't come 'round often. In modern F1 I would say only Michael Schumacher was more capable at extracting race-winning performance from cars that are far from being the best (1997 comes in mind). The reason why Hamilton tends to fare lower in such lists is because he did come with a bombastic debut (2007-2008 were incredible), but his next seasons were very much hit or miss. In the case of 2010 and 2012 that I mentioned for Alonso, Hamilton actually had a better car than Alonso most of the time, and yet ended up below between often inferior pace and errors (although he did stay in the title fight himself for long). Hamilton's most perfect/dominant seasons came when he had a car that were miles beyond anyone else, or at least on par with the opposition.
Likewise, this is why you don't see Vettel in the top 7: bombastic debut, became a machine by like 2013 when he would barely make an error with his unbeatable machinery, but he crumbled a lot under pressure in years where it wasn't clear cut. Hell, he almost lost 2010 and 2012 despite having a dominant car, and in 2018 he had a legit shot at the title only to start accumulating big errors around the middle of the season and not truly recovering since.
Alonso was regularly destroying his teammates, constantly scoring far higher than his car would suffice. For many years he was voted as the best driver in F1 by team principals as well, even in seasons like 2011 where Vettel dominated. There's a reason for that, and you only really need to look at what others did in his same machinery.
San Marino 2005 was also an amazing race for Alonso, with a stirling defence against a rampaging Schumacher, still remember it to this day (and for UK channel ITV cutting away for a break mid-battle too!)
I jumped in F1 too late to see Alonso performing. All I witnessed of him were poor results at McLaren and his incredible winey reactions. So it'd love to see where the praise comes from.
Alonso at his best was just an absolute beast of a driver. Vettel and Hamilton have won much more (and I'm sure Max and Leclerc will too), but Alonso at his best is the best driver I've ever seen in Formula 1 (alongside peak Prost and of course Schumacher). He was just relentlessly quick and consistent, even when the cars were terrible.Thanks for this! I have to admit I didn't know any of this. Definitely sounds very impressive indeed.
What I actually meant though is that I would love to see his skills in action if we were granted that possibility. I could rewatch his older races of course, but I don't really care much for that.
Alonso at his best was just an absolute beast of a driver. Vettel and Hamilton have won much more (and I'm sure Max and Leclerc will too), but Alonso at his best is the best driver I've ever seen in Formula 1 (alongside peak Prost and of course Schumacher). He was just relentlessly quick and consistent, even when the cars were terrible.
Valencia and Malaysia 2012 show just how great he was, but even when he was young he put together races like Imola 2005, against a 7x WDC.
It's a shame he couldn't stay at any one team for longer than a few years without burning them out. In many ways, his intensity reminds me of Jose Mourinho, who rarely stays more than 3-4 years a Football club before the players stop caring for him, despite their success.
Alonso at his best was just an absolute beast of a driver. Vettel and Hamilton have won much more (and I'm sure Max and Leclerc will too), but Alonso at his best is the best driver I've ever seen in Formula 1 (alongside peak Prost and of course Schumacher). He was just relentlessly quick and consistent, even when the cars were terrible.
Valencia and Malaysia 2012 show just how great he was, but even when he was young he put together races like Imola 2005, against a 7x WDC.
It's a shame he couldn't stay at any one team for longer than a few years without burning them out. In many ways, his intensity reminds me of Jose Mourinho, who rarely stays more than 3-4 years a Football club before the players stop caring for him, despite their success.
He still took three wins and a pole position. That pole position was the only one not taken by Red Bull and it was not gifted.Hamilton's career is forever going to have a black mark due to his personal issues around 2011 onwards severely affecting his racing performance.
Anyone watching the awkward stream? Translator lady keeps clearing her throat randomly lol.