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Fighting Games Era |OT| Two-Button Dashes Are Great
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I guess they would make sprites for all the Tekken characters? Or I guess they could make all the Blazblue heroes 3D
Blazblue cast would rip the ever loving asshole out of the Tekken cast unless really interesting and fun new stuff was given to Tekken folk. I'd be down for the latter because it was fucking great when MVC2 started giving crazy shit out like candy to folk. My god the Gief armor, flame thrower and air grabs and the Dhalsim movement from flight. Gimmie dat Blazblue level crazy shit for Tekken.
It's interesting because you could adapt characters to the BB Drive and supers template somewhat faithfully.
Making the BB->Tekken conversion though... yeah, either the Tekken cast would have to go full MVC.
Making the BB->Tekken conversion though... yeah, either the Tekken cast would have to go full MVC.
Killer Instinct is $9.99 on steam.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/577940/Killer_Instinct/
If you dont own it and have never played it FUCKING BUY THIS. This game was and still is absolutely amazing. Its all read based and given its breaker system, counter breakers, shadow breakers, lockouts and such it let the developers have an environment where it was okay to design insanely overpowered shit at little risk since if folks read it, they could break it and negate the damage of a combo broken before an ender move could be tacked onto it to make the damage permanent.
Buy it. Buy it now. What are you doin? Go BUY!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/577940/Killer_Instinct/
If you dont own it and have never played it FUCKING BUY THIS. This game was and still is absolutely amazing. Its all read based and given its breaker system, counter breakers, shadow breakers, lockouts and such it let the developers have an environment where it was okay to design insanely overpowered shit at little risk since if folks read it, they could break it and negate the damage of a combo broken before an ender move could be tacked onto it to make the damage permanent.
Buy it. Buy it now. What are you doin? Go BUY!
Hell yeah! Gotta say the character breakdowns Keits and crew would put out as they released characters were some of the hypest most insane tool lists I've ever seen in fighting games. I remember seeing Omen come out and the breakdown of his zoning options and saying it was the most broken shit I'd ever seen. Then out comes Hisako with those crazy grabs and tools and that seemed busted. Then General Raam blacking out the screen with bats and Arias assists and final form tools and Eagles arrows and bird, Eyedols busted rushdown and zoning and how he could switch between them and it all just seemed broke as fuck.
And I played and realized its combo system meant if you didnt clutch it out with an ender no e of the damage was real or permanent...till you hit an ender it's all potential damage only. Plus your hit stun decay is on meter right by combo hits so both you and the opponent can see how far from them falling out they are. That meant the more heavies you hit the less the bar filled and more damage but it was easier to break and the lighter hits filled it fast got less damage but were harder to break so more certain to end for damage.
The whole game system meant they could design the most powerful, hype, busted shit imaginable and it was all totally fine because nothing counts if you get broken off a read. It was the most read based footsie tactic thing I'd seen in 1v1 and its presentation was incredible. If you just memorized a long combo you would suck because you'd be easy to break with your one combo repetition. It was about confusing them. Slipping an extra button and making them go for the wrong breaker and locking themselves out of breakers to allow your combo to go nuts.
Enjoy. Its fucking hype and amazing.
I bought the game because I thought it looked busted, and because I like how Jago says "endokuken" lmao
I'll let you know what I think when I start playing it.
Just wait till you get a load of Spinals mixup and pressure. Use shield or ghost moves get a ghost skull. Spend ghost skulls for projectiles, teleports,projectile invincible armor lol. Dude can put a vertically dropping projectile over you, one in front if you and teleport behind you to pressure. Plus he curses shadow gauges so you no longer gain resources meaning he can prevent ultras and shit. Dude can skeleport cancel into any special including more skeleports. He gets dirty with pressure and he can load skills easily enough.
It's so dirty
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Cinder mixups...shudders...
I remember playing Valoraxe (didnt even know who he was lol) at Combo Breaker and holy hell those Cinder mixups were frustrating and some bullshit. Bless the dude though for playing like 20 games with me even though I didn't win a single one.
I remember playing Valoraxe (didnt even know who he was lol) at Combo Breaker and holy hell those Cinder mixups were frustrating and some bullshit. Bless the dude though for playing like 20 games with me even though I didn't win a single one.
I wish it had a proper arcade mode for the season 3 and 3+ characters.
I didn't like Shadow Lords.
RIP, steve and Rick are really embarrassing on the mic for this tekken tourny.
Its not funny. They sound like valley high school girls who cant handle their liquor.
Its not funny. They sound like valley high school girls who cant handle their liquor.
I know fuck all about this game in spite of owning it for years on 360.
But screw it this appeared on my feed from overseas from today. Apparently there was a shitload of Virtual Fighter 5 Final Showdown ver. B streamed today. Enjoy a shitload of Virtua Fighter.
But screw it this appeared on my feed from overseas from today. Apparently there was a shitload of Virtual Fighter 5 Final Showdown ver. B streamed today. Enjoy a shitload of Virtua Fighter.
Guys, check out this beauty of a post from over in the Smash netcode thread:
Strides 2 Glory VS is actually a separate project... maybe? It's kinda hard to understand, but there seems to be two fighting game projects by that team (person?). The one shown in the video is apparently named Glitz N Glam Brawl. Maybe. It's unclear to me.
Glitz N Glam Brawl is the game currently in development in the videos. Strides 2 Glory is the end goal and has a larger scope.
The rosters are different: Glitz N Glam, Strides
The rosters are different: Glitz N Glam, Strides
SNK pls
giv SamSho trailer next week
1 Hour of Super Street Fighter II Turbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNAYuz17T_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQBsVlpfI1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H9naeulYlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nQioTL1T8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuexInipCVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln7cmsAp7x0
King of Fighters 2002 UM matches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ597QF2THQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbE0cuPMzg8
2+ Hours of Virtua Fighter 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZTpUXRgSNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_EWq_JcwOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jGeX-UdllU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlfiflWNGTw
https://youtu.be/gQddzSdM3qc?t=242
1 Hour of King of Fighters XI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-dtL-bTe_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbMyjNhAwZY
1 Hour of King of Fighters '98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za1QRO6K540
2+ Hours of Dengeki Bunko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZaXsK9tcmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZSItOMvi9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GUAtHBcWis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0EuOyX08Gs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbUjdm6yCwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L38pi5e2F3o
1 Hour of Garou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X393LIimgKc
4 Hours of Melty Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BjaLlLgjDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kKWQi4TB3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh3OUkN4Bp0
giv SamSho trailer next week
1 Hour of Super Street Fighter II Turbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNAYuz17T_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQBsVlpfI1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H9naeulYlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nQioTL1T8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuexInipCVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln7cmsAp7x0
King of Fighters 2002 UM matches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ597QF2THQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbE0cuPMzg8
2+ Hours of Virtua Fighter 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZTpUXRgSNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_EWq_JcwOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jGeX-UdllU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlfiflWNGTw
https://youtu.be/gQddzSdM3qc?t=242
1 Hour of King of Fighters XI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-dtL-bTe_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbMyjNhAwZY
1 Hour of King of Fighters '98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za1QRO6K540
2+ Hours of Dengeki Bunko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZaXsK9tcmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZSItOMvi9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GUAtHBcWis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0EuOyX08Gs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbUjdm6yCwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L38pi5e2F3o
1 Hour of Garou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X393LIimgKc
4 Hours of Melty Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BjaLlLgjDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kKWQi4TB3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh3OUkN4Bp0
are we really using memoryman as an example of a normal smash player
That depends on if he showers and uses deodorant.
Hey, guys. I need a bit of help.
I recently registered for a local DBFZ tournament and the platform they'll be using is PS4. I don't own any PS4 controllers/sticks and only have the Pokken controller for Switch.
I've read on reddit that the PS4 recognizes the Pokken controller as a legacy controller. Can I use the Pokken controller on PS4 to play DBFZ? Can anyone who owns the Pokken controller and a PS4 help me confirm this? I don't really want to buy a new controller for a tournament that will probably only happen once a year. LOL.
If anyone can help, it will be much appreciated. Thanks.
I recently registered for a local DBFZ tournament and the platform they'll be using is PS4. I don't own any PS4 controllers/sticks and only have the Pokken controller for Switch.
I've read on reddit that the PS4 recognizes the Pokken controller as a legacy controller. Can I use the Pokken controller on PS4 to play DBFZ? Can anyone who owns the Pokken controller and a PS4 help me confirm this? I don't really want to buy a new controller for a tournament that will probably only happen once a year. LOL.
If anyone can help, it will be much appreciated. Thanks.
Have you checked if the tournament organizers have a controller you could borrow? There are probably Switch to PS4 controller adapters you could buy as well.
I see. Thank you very much.
No, I haven't. I'll contact them and ask. Thank you very much.
It sucks that KOF XI isn't avaliable for modern devices, is such a great game and still is widely played considering how "hard" is to find a system to play it when you compare it with pretty much all the other numbered KOF.
I have an arcade that has a cab running the game, but I still want somewhere to play in my house to practice.
I have an arcade that has a cab running the game, but I still want somewhere to play in my house to practice.
Actually it's on psn Hong kong. I setup a Hong kong account to buy it for my ps4. My address is a tea shop apparentl on that account lol.. It's one of my favorite kof titles and the moment I found it was available on one of their markets I did the leg work to buy it. Game is largely in English still as it's the Japanese version and it had that.
https://store.playstation.com/en-hk/product/JP0576-NPJD00071_00-ASIA000000000000
There ya go. Best I can do but at least ps3 means decent sticks for the system exist.
I can't remember if you need the touchpad, l3 or r3 buttons on this one. Some snk psn ports needed those to start the game for some reason. Had to mod my stick to get those.
Thanks for this. But I don't think I'll be needing it this time.
I contacted the tournament organizers and they said that they can lend controllers to those who can't provide their own. So I guess I'm ok then.
Thanks again everyone.
Anyone here fucked with the alpha of Trajes Fatais?
I sent my request for a code Sunday and I'm still eagerly waiting for it. The character designs could be stronger and I would prefer a 6-button game but the style is pretty unique and the sprites look fabulous.
I sent my request for a code Sunday and I'm still eagerly waiting for it. The character designs could be stronger and I would prefer a 6-button game but the style is pretty unique and the sprites look fabulous.
I played some of the older versions. It works amazingly well, but I still wish they added an extra button to spice things more.
Is there a link to something describing its combat system? I've heard folks say its unique. I'm pretty curious after having watched that bandido Sprite forever. Dude is cool.
It's 4-button with a system where you can resurrect if you have some meter, but not if you're finished with a super or hyper.
And here's a stream of the alpha:
I haven't found a good one in English yet, unfortunately.
You can check an older, one button only, build on their itch.io: https://onanimstudio.itch.io/trajes-fatais-minimal-beta1
I dunno what is being changed for this new version (I think they are going four buttons now, 2 normals and 2 specials), there is an overview of the new systems here:
Older build included guard cancels (expending super), feints, parries and a lot of momentum conservation (hyper hops!), besides undizzies (with markers on the UI) and a Skullgirls inspired IPS. Mobility includes long and short dashing (less range but more i-frames, and goes through KOF dodge style) for both directions and forward running, short hops, universal triangle jumping (but only on the real background walls, not on camera corners), ground and wall teching (same rule as triangle jumps). Some specials also change momentum/range when touching real walls. Pretty liberal special and super cancels.
Inputs are minimal, with A+B being throw, specials being C or D neutral, 6 or 2 or on the air and supers being C+D with the same modifiers.
AFAIK their idea is to have a KOF style neutral (though stages are bigger, almost like a horizontal version of Melty) and medium sized combos that require meter spending, but requiring you to play differently mid stage or in the (actual) corners.
If anyone has any videos with more in depth explanations, I can translate.
Some stuff from this:
- They gave up on UE4, game is on Unity now
- One of Cristiano's (the angel) special is flying, apparently he can't do fly-unfly though, can cancel into forward fly as an air dash that hits
- He compares the universal combo mechanics with Xrd's Sin hunger management, since you expend meter to do cancels and activate specials/supers and need to recharge by getting hits
- When you have 0 meter, the special buttons mimic the normal buttons (light special becomes light attack, etc)
- "The name of the game is resource management"
- Cristiano B-side (aka "evil ryu" version of Cristiano) has super jump (not sure if it's unique or universal)
- Around 29:50 he combos Cristiano B-side low into a launcher and into a throw while the opponent falls behind him
- "While Lucy is rushdown, her B-side is a grappler (with counters)"
- Running generates meter
- He mentions that the meter becoming life if you don't super kill makes match last quite long, making the fights feel like a Bo5 or even Bo7
- Apparently the meter expending values change when you are in the "second wind"
- Natália (the fairy) specials include a standard fireball, an AA fireball and a stationary bubble. Hit the bubble with a fireball and it bursts into 3 fireballs. Also has a DP. First zoner of the game!
- One of her air specials is a downwards air dash (kinda like a reverse Morrigan, or more easily like Raven I guess)
- He believes the platypus character is a full grappler and the ghost pirate a zoner
- Someone questions if there will be no rekka characters because of the cancel system
- He compares the ground -> air combos to KOF style combos instead of Marvel style
- When you use the wrong block the character flashes red
- Took me until now to notice that under the lifebar there is a guard bar, SFAlpha/MotW style (empty it and get staggered)
- In VS CPU you can use PageUp/PageDown to cycle between different AI styles mid battle
- No jump cancels
- He mentions that Max played the game (I am not sure which build)
- At 1:17:50 he enters the game's facebook page and shows some illustrations of future characters: Aurora (female black astronaut), Wagner (the emperor, Natália's father), Verônica (queen of diamonds), Loa (female native), Marina (plus size mermaid), Aroldo (caveman), Rique (samurai, with a giant needle instead of a katana), Shirlei (frevo dancer), Dominique (female animal tamer), Jurandir (saci pererê), Clóvis (a carnival costume/character half clown half boogeyman that used to throw balls made of bovine balls into the ground, literally "ball beater"), Pablo (brazilian gaúcho). Some other B-sides are shown and they have different costumes or weapons (Luciano, the cangaceiro, has a gun) - the girl with the platypus costume becomes controlled by the costume in her B-side.
- No mentions of the IPS/undizzy systems in this stream.
- One of Cristiano's (the angel) special is flying, apparently he can't do fly-unfly though, can cancel into forward fly as an air dash that hits
- He compares the universal combo mechanics with Xrd's Sin hunger management, since you expend meter to do cancels and activate specials/supers and need to recharge by getting hits
- When you have 0 meter, the special buttons mimic the normal buttons (light special becomes light attack, etc)
- "The name of the game is resource management"
- Cristiano B-side (aka "evil ryu" version of Cristiano) has super jump (not sure if it's unique or universal)
- Around 29:50 he combos Cristiano B-side low into a launcher and into a throw while the opponent falls behind him
- "While Lucy is rushdown, her B-side is a grappler (with counters)"
- Running generates meter
- He mentions that the meter becoming life if you don't super kill makes match last quite long, making the fights feel like a Bo5 or even Bo7
- Apparently the meter expending values change when you are in the "second wind"
- Natália (the fairy) specials include a standard fireball, an AA fireball and a stationary bubble. Hit the bubble with a fireball and it bursts into 3 fireballs. Also has a DP. First zoner of the game!
- One of her air specials is a downwards air dash (kinda like a reverse Morrigan, or more easily like Raven I guess)
- He believes the platypus character is a full grappler and the ghost pirate a zoner
- Someone questions if there will be no rekka characters because of the cancel system
- He compares the ground -> air combos to KOF style combos instead of Marvel style
- When you use the wrong block the character flashes red
- Took me until now to notice that under the lifebar there is a guard bar, SFAlpha/MotW style (empty it and get staggered)
- In VS CPU you can use PageUp/PageDown to cycle between different AI styles mid battle
- No jump cancels
- He mentions that Max played the game (I am not sure which build)
- At 1:17:50 he enters the game's facebook page and shows some illustrations of future characters: Aurora (female black astronaut), Wagner (the emperor, Natália's father), Verônica (queen of diamonds), Loa (female native), Marina (plus size mermaid), Aroldo (caveman), Rique (samurai, with a giant needle instead of a katana), Shirlei (frevo dancer), Dominique (female animal tamer), Jurandir (saci pererê), Clóvis (a carnival costume/character half clown half boogeyman that used to throw balls made of bovine balls into the ground, literally "ball beater"), Pablo (brazilian gaúcho). Some other B-sides are shown and they have different costumes or weapons (Luciano, the cangaceiro, has a gun) - the girl with the platypus costume becomes controlled by the costume in her B-side.
- No mentions of the IPS/undizzy systems in this stream.