Ah. I see. I don't think I buy that length though.
I could handle it, but they'd have to a damn good 10 hours. My expectations have been at about 20-25 hours for the main story and some more for side content.
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Final Fantasy VII Demo Playthrough Leak [Update: Full game spoilers datamined]
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That length seems lliterally impossible even if it was the most straight forward Remake of FF7s Midgar. Spoken dialogue, more elaborate cutscenes, areas now being 3d environments, etc. All that will drive up the length alone. Even if the game was light on side content or doesn't feature new areas I would still expect just that to be 15 to 20 hours.
For that length to be true the Remake would have to speed through Midgar at a breakneck pace
For that length to be true the Remake would have to speed through Midgar at a breakneck pace
Fucking livid. 60 dollars for a ten hour game is asinine in 2020.
That's not good but makes sense. Just played through midgar and they would really have to stretch to make all this a full game you could get through this even exploring every nook and cranny in like 2-3 hours easy. I really hope this does well so we get the rest of the game but this may bring controversy, they should have really pushed to get this game to the boat battle with jenova.
It would be insane and literally the opposite of what they said and their excuse was on why a Midgar game could be good.
Yeah. It would quite literally be confirming every worst fear I've been yelling about for the past year. Square can't possibly be dumb enough to prove me right.
It's not a spoiler at all because it's pure conjecture based off of very fragmented and incomplete datamining. Literally how would anyone know it's 10 hours long?
I paid full price for RE2 and that was like six or seven hours long on my first playthrough. Even if FFVII does turn out to be ten hours long I don't think I'd mind too much. I really doubt that'll actually happen, though. There's so much they can expand upon and sections they can make larger and more complex that I'm pretty confident it'll be at least 20~25 hours long.
Some reports indicate the full demo took about 45 minutes. The original bombing mission takes about 15-18 minutes if you're just doing a normal playthrough.
Yeah, I really can't see it only being ten hours long. I'm skeptical that it'll be a full 30 hours as Square Enix has said, but I don't think it'll only be 10.
Yeah I have no idea how they know the length but there is always people who speed run stuff so I am trying to guess lol.
Pissed haha, it should at least match the original and it would be fair for people to want it to exceed it
When XV broke street dates, the player beat it in 24 hours.
There's no chance that this will take only 10 hours.
Bought the FF XV 3 days and the The Last Guardian 5 days before the launch. If I wasn't playing anything else.... I would definitely finished XV easily.
Took me 40 hours-ish. Doing a lot of side quests by the way.
I am being naive, would the demo have the most up to date data for the game anyway? This slice of the game has been playable since at least June. Or has all this come from the other larger file that appeared on the PSN?
The demo has a lot of data from the final game, but nothing that would really indicated length. The only thing it really told us is
how many chapters there are. But we have no idea how long each is or how they're structured.
I've been saying this since it was revealed to be Midgar only: 20-25 hours is perfect.
I would be very disappointed and Part 2 would have to live up to even higher expectations.
I would be very disappointed and Part 2 would have to live up to even higher expectations.
I'm expecting Part 2 to cut a lot of content and locations from the original game to streamline the rest of the story.
It wont. I can see it being 40 hours. Any more and thats pushing it
People are just freaking out trying to guess the length of the game itself based on the length of demo and overall chapter number
Which is weird because their entire justification for splitting this stupid thing up in the first place was so they wouldn't have to cut anything. That was their stated, open goal when they announced the episodic structure.
I highly, highly doubt they cut locations and content.
Because it'll just be the first continent. :/
I think the whole reason for splitting it up was because of the assets and file size needed to for just Midgar. They obviously realized it's better to release midgar as it's own game considering the amount of assets required just for that segment. It wasn't easy and cheap to make assets for such a relatively small chunk of the overall game.
At the same time, if it's a compelling 10 hours, isn't that better than a more bland 10 on top of that? I mean, a movie ticket is $12-14 in my area for what's often a 2 hour experience, and roughly, that's the same as $60 for 10 hours.
Hell, I'd be surprised if I've played 10 hours total of lots of much longer games because they failed to be compelling. If this remake plays well and is a great game for 10 hours, I'm down.
The original Midgar is pretty short, even if you take your time. Im not expecting this to be 40 hours, but maybe 20 with side quests.
I mean, they said it themselves - they didn't want to cut anything and that's why the game was planned to be episodic and not one lump project. It had nothing to do with Midgar initially.
They're either going to cut parts of the game, or it's going to be 4+ parts.
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Is that really all people are going off of? The length of chapters in games can vary wildly. See Chapter 3 in Death Stranding or heck, the open world chapters in FFXV compared to the more linear ones. I don't see how that's any indication of how long the game will be.
Pretty much. It's either going to be four parts at minimum or Square is a bunch of liars. Neither is a good look for them.
If we get Midgar exactly as we know it in the original it's a missed opportunity. No question about it.
People bringing up how the original FFVII was mostly linear are forgetting that a) the game offered you the promise of exploration and illusion of freedom 7 hours in (as you left Midgar) and b) opened up drastically as you kept playing and c) was diverse as hell and d) was not a whole game dedicated to one location.
We're two months away from launch. We have yet to see one brand new area that was not in the original Midgar. It's already tiring from press material. For me, the game would probably still be really good if it's a fun romp through Midgar but with higher production values, but if they fail to take the main selling point for part one of a multi-game remake and the most interesting part of this game, then of course I'll be disappointed.
Also, I think that spoiler of the game length is BS. I think the game will be 20-25 hours. I'm mainly talking about content here.
People bringing up how the original FFVII was mostly linear are forgetting that a) the game offered you the promise of exploration and illusion of freedom 7 hours in (as you left Midgar) and b) opened up drastically as you kept playing and c) was diverse as hell and d) was not a whole game dedicated to one location.
We're two months away from launch. We have yet to see one brand new area that was not in the original Midgar. It's already tiring from press material. For me, the game would probably still be really good if it's a fun romp through Midgar but with higher production values, but if they fail to take the main selling point for part one of a multi-game remake and the most interesting part of this game, then of course I'll be disappointed.
Also, I think that spoiler of the game length is BS. I think the game will be 20-25 hours. I'm mainly talking about content here.
I'd be fine with 15 hours.
I'll take less time with focused story and gameplay over more time of doing pointless tasks. That's essentially what it comes down to and for whatever reason makes some happy. Aslong as they get 50 hours of game, it doesn't seem to matter that 30 of it is just repeating tasks, collecting magic beans for NPC's and walking back and forth doing the most mundane of things. Is that really worth being upset? Isn't quality more important than the length of a game?
I'll take less time with focused story and gameplay over more time of doing pointless tasks. That's essentially what it comes down to and for whatever reason makes some happy. Aslong as they get 50 hours of game, it doesn't seem to matter that 30 of it is just repeating tasks, collecting magic beans for NPC's and walking back and forth doing the most mundane of things. Is that really worth being upset? Isn't quality more important than the length of a game?
I feel like I'm the only person in this thread who's fine with whatever length the main story ends up being. I'm sure there will be plenty of side content to dig into once it's over.
I'm super excited for the game, but I'm also just along for the ride. I'll probably be happy with whatever we get. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm super excited for the game, but I'm also just along for the ride. I'll probably be happy with whatever we get. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How are they going to do optional party members? They can't recreate Yuffie's encounter, unless the "overworld" is similar to XV and you find her generating randomly in packs of enemies. Or some optional forest like mini dungeon.
I think people are just concerned because Square has been touting this as a full fledged Final Fantasy game in and of itself, so there are expectations of length and content that come with that promise.
That said, I think the people saying it's for sure gonna be super short are jumping the gun a bit. As I've been saying, I'm expecting a 20-25 hour main story, with more for side content. Shorter than most FF games, but still substantial. I could totally be off-base though.
Word is that the demo is about 45 minutes and encompasses the first bombing run.
Adding new areas in Midgar would get them into feature creep (aka duke nukem forever) territory, then the devs would maybe want to add other areas to the world map & the game would never be released, as releasing FF7 as it is in modern visuals is already a daunting task.
I think it's already a big elephant in the room that some stuff will get the can in the remake to fit this into a trilogy, like creating a snow mountain in PS5 quality just for one mini game is probably a bad idea, unless they want to expand that northern segment to make it worth it, which goes back to feature creep.
I don't think them adding new stuff would mean that the game could potentially never come out.
When the game releases, it'll have been less than three years since SE took the game over from CC2 and turned to internal development. I just think within this time, they were able to focus on the original Midgar and polish the hell out of that while adding bits to the story. Less than three years is not a lot of time to make a more ambitious Midgar.
While that's fine, when they split the game into parts and Midgar became its own game, expectations were raised as to what they would do for each part.
You underestimate the mental loops of people thirsty and desperate
But your point also raises the same thing ive been saying regarding the whole remake. Just cause part 1 is midgar a small portion of the og game says nothing about the pace the other parts will be. Expanding midgard doesnt mean every part of ff7 gets expanded to the same level. Just that midgar was important to expand for the team innthe first game
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-10 hour game
you guys are on crack. 10 hours of just cutscenes maybe
-10 hour game
you guys are on crack. 10 hours of just cutscenes maybe
oh damn, eurogamer going full bore?
Saving that for when i get home for sure!