Someone just come take my wallet now. These two months are nuts.
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Final Fantasy VII Remake delayed to April 10th
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It's kinda both. It's a full game in and of itself that is also the first part of an overarching narrative. That said, the term "episodic" has different connotations in the games industry so when people hear it, they immediately think it's going to be a couple hours long.
Still, the idea that they should delay it to move it closer to the next part is kind of silly. You don't delay The Last of Us so that its closer to The Last of Us Part II. Square is treating this game as their next big release.
But why would the hold a release to be closer to the sequel(LoU example)? Not the best analogy as FF7 part 1 is just that part 1 of a cohesive 3 part whole (stats and stuff supposed to carry over.) which leads it to the episodic title. While it is a full game, it's definitely episodic.
It certainly lacks confidence that they're releasing the demo on the same day as the game itself.
The amount of people who are worried about buying this game so close to RE3 and Cyberpunk is weird to me. You were planning on buying it anyway, why not just not worry about playing it day 1 if it'll stress you out?
How does this prove that it's not a complete game? Is God of War an incomplete game too?
This game will have a beginning, middle and ending. It's not an episodic release but a multi part franchise.
This game ends when you complete Midgar - that is not a complete game - it's a complete part 1 of a larger game that will have other parts released for it to then make it a complete experience.
You can word it however you would like to; but it is still part 1 of a larger game experience. Anyone that's played through the original Final Fantasy VII would be seriously disappointed to find out that this remake ends right after Midgar and is not the complete experience - if they were not already aware that this is only part 1.
i wish it was April 3rd, who cares if they block the RE3 date :P Those RE fans can get both and pick which one to play that night. :P
No comment.
Because you already seen the whole "trilogy" before idk mayne.
There is no point in arguing it. Folks will continue to associate VIIRemake with a tell tales episodic format. There are people today that think that they are legitimately getting a 4-5 hour experience when these two discs launch for VIIRemake's first part.
S-E: 'We have researched your request and would like to announce we can indeed provide you with a demo of the PS4 port version of Final Fantasy 7 on 3/3. Enjoy!'
So are you saying that, even if this is a 30-40 hour game experience with its own narrative arc (the escalating war between Ecoterreorist group Avalanche and MegaCorp Power Company Shinra), it can't be considered a full game because the material it's built upon goes farther than that?
I mean, basically every story is incomplete until you die, amirite?
I can't say it any clearer than I did in that post. Let's say that this wasn't a remake and this was the first time Final Fantasy VII ever released. Only then could we say it was "complete", because we wouldn't know what is supposed to come after it. It's like watching The Fellowship of the Rings and just leaving it at that, even though people tell you "Hey, there's two more parts you can watch - and then there's the Hobbit movies, etc."
Also based on what you just said, you couldn't consider it complete based on that narrative arc because none of what you just mentioned is fully resolved until disc 3 at the very end of Final Fantasy VII.
This is going to be a remake of an old game split into sections that are a whole game's worth of content. In what universe does that not constitute a whole game? Are movies, shows, or games that end with cliffhangers or "and the story continues!" type endings not whole stories?
Not gonna lie, I just put in a vacation request for the original date yesterday!
My friend took time off for the original FFXV release date, a whole week, and the game got delayed and he couldn't backtrack the request. Plus it was XV, hopefully that isn't what happens to me with this.
My friend took time off for the original FFXV release date, a whole week, and the game got delayed and he couldn't backtrack the request. Plus it was XV, hopefully that isn't what happens to me with this.
Why the snark?
You can read Fellowship as a tale in itself quite happily and I say in my post you quote it's a full book / movie?
But it's still also just an episode in a broader story. You still want to know what happens to Frodo.
In no way am I dissing what S-E are going for here
I guess the better comparison if there was one is Star Wars A New Hope. That's far more self contained but also part of a trilogy
That's correct - it is a complete movie, but it's overarching narrative and character development only reach a conclusion by watching the other two films in it's trilogy.
Yeah, it's not too long but it had a perfect time. Same here, it doesn't really change anything for me since it has priority over the other big games for me.
Actually that reminds me, feels like there hasn't been much Cyberpunk advertising so it's probably getting delayed too, though I'm not in a rush to play it since it's first person so I probably can't play too much at a time.
But The Fellowship of the Ring was still treated as if it was a full film. It was given the budget of a full film, it had its release schedule as a full film. Considering that we're discussing release schedules, that's kind of an important distinction to make.
No one said "They should delay Fellowship of the RIng to make it release closer to The Two Towers".
It only covers the first portion of the overall narrative of FFVII, but Square's goal is to make that portion the size and scope of a modern Final Fantasy game in and of itself.
I mean, I would have rather have played FFVII then go into Cyberpunk playing both on day 1 and played through, but, meh.
Final Fantasy VII is a complete game that is the story of
Final Fantasy VII Remake is a complete game that is the story of
.
See? :D
a rag tag group racing against time to stop an ancient alien and prevent an extinction event
Final Fantasy VII Remake is a complete game that is the story of
a revolutionary group fighting to bring down a nefarious corporation trying to suck the lifeblood out of the planet
See? :D
S-E: 'We have researched your request and would like to announce we can indeed provide you with a demo of the PS4 port version of Final Fantasy 7 on 3/3. Enjoy!'
pretty sure square has been doing this for 15 years.. :/
6 days from CP2077 means ima skip this. may as well wait another 10 years for the other 2/3s of the game.
Fuck. I did not need this for my backlog man. CyberPunk 2077 and Final Fantasy VIIR within a week. Someone is getting put on the back burner and I dont know who
I'm not saying they should just delay the release again to be closer to the inevitable part 2 - or should I say the required part 2 - I'm saying that releasing it less than a week before Cyberpunk 2077 is an insane decision that only serves to cannibalize the Final Fantasy VII Remake.
Having it as a "full game's worth of content" will still feel empty and lacking as the credits roll, because you know you'll have to wait several more years before you can continue even onto part 2 - let alone the parts they'll have to create after that. A complete experience is a one-and-done, to where you feel completely satisfied with nothing else to think about or learn about as they'll be nothing else coming for the experience you just had.
A remake being released in several parts and then calling them "complete games" sounds off to me, because you have to play all of the parts to have the complete experience.
Pretty much nails my feelings on the two games, as someone in the bolded camp.
do your self a favor and play the og version... this remake isnt even all of the first disc of the og game. which had 3 discs
Broadly agree. Kalm and the flashback sequence really stood out to me though even 20 years on. Fantastic storytelling and the Sephiroth reveal was great. Looking forward to that in Remake immensely, albeit probably not in Part 1
I was literally luke warm on FF7 till I left Midgar... so HARD disagree (and FF7 is my fav game of all time)