Someone just come take my wallet now. These two months are nuts.
Someone just come take my wallet now. These two months are nuts.
It's kinda both. It's a full game in and of itself that is also the first part of an overarching narrative. That said, the term "episodic" has different connotations in the games industry so when people hear it, they immediately think it's going to be a couple hours long.It doesn't matter how you word it. It's a full game and not an episodic one.
I'd rather wait for the extra month then have an incomplete product with tons of updates each week.
Why watch any first film of a trilogy in that case.I'm so close to cancelling my order on this, I got it for $48 but I have a feeling it's gonna be like 15 hours and not worth it considering it's one part; gonna just get Cyberpunk & AC I can wait.
Bleh. Seeing all that waiting does not amuse me. :PThey've not publically announced how many parts or when
I'm expecting a roadmap to be released realistically within a few weeks of launch
If I had to bet since everything's in full production flow...
April 20: FFVII part 1 PS4
April 21: FFVII part 1 PS5, XSX, PC version
November 21: part 2 PS5, XSX, PC, PS4 (?)
November 22: part 3 + special collectors complete editions PS5, XSX, PC, PS4
But why would the hold a release to be closer to the sequel(LoU example)? Not the best analogy as FF7 part 1 is just that part 1 of a cohesive 3 part whole (stats and stuff supposed to carry over.) which leads it to the episodic title. While it is a full game, it's definitely episodic.It's kind both. It's a full game in and of itself that is also the first part of an overarching narrative. That said, the term "episodic" has different connotations in the games industry so when people hear it, they immediately think it's going to be a couple hours long.
That said, the idea that they should delay it to move it closer to the next part is kind of silly. You don't delay The Last of Us so that its closer to The Last of Us Part II. Square is treating this game as their next big release.
I'm so close to cancelling my order on this, I got it for $48 but I have a feeling it's gonna be like 15 hours and not worth it considering it's one part; gonna just get Cyberpunk & AC I can wait.
It certainly lacks confidence that they're releasing the demo on the same day as the game itself.but why hold the demo hostage from us? we know its ready and playable, please squareenix, this could have been the perfect "we are sorry" gift hahaha
Kinda disagree. Fellowship of the Ring is a full book / movie but it's an episode in a series and an incomplete story by itself
This game ends when you complete Midgar - that is not a complete game - it's a complete part 1 of a larger game that will have other parts released for it to then make it a complete experience.It's the intention of Square Enix that each "Part" off the Remake Project is a full game in and of itself. Think of it as structured like Star Wars episodes as opposed to Telltale games. It's best to think of VIIRemake Part 1 as it's own AAA release because that's how Square is treating it.
You can word it however you would like to; but it is still part 1 of a larger game experience. Anyone that's played through the original Final Fantasy VII would be seriously disappointed to find out that this remake ends right after Midgar and is not the complete experience - if they were not already aware that this is only part 1.It doesn't matter how you word it. It's a full game and not an episodic one.
i wish it was April 3rd, who cares if they block the RE3 date :P Those RE fans can get both and pick which one to play that night. :PApril 10th is Good Friday, no post in the UK... what a ridiculous date.
No comment.
Because you already seen the whole "trilogy" before idk mayne.
It certainly lacks confidence that they're releasing the demo on the same day as the game itself.
There is no point in arguing it. Folks will continue to associate VIIRemake with a tell tales episodic format. There are people today that think that they are legitimately getting a 4-5 hour experience when these two discs launch for VIIRemake's first part.How does this prove that it's not a complete game? Is God of War an incomplete game too?
This game will have a beginning, middle and ending. It's not an episodic release but a multi part franchise.
So are you saying that, even if this is a 30-40 hour game experience with its own narrative arc (the escalating war between Ecoterreorist group Avalanche and MegaCorp Power Company Shinra), it can't be considered a full game because the material it's built upon goes farther than that?This game ends when you complete Midgar - that is not a complete game - it's a complete part 1 of a larger game that will have other parts released for it to then make it a complete experience.
Kinda disagree. Fellowship of the Ring is a full book / movie but it's an episode in a series and an incomplete story by itself
I can't say it any clearer than I did in that post. Let's say that this wasn't a remake and this was the first time Final Fantasy VII ever released. Only then could we say it was "complete", because we wouldn't know what is supposed to come after it. It's like watching The Fellowship of the Rings and just leaving it at that, even though people tell you "Hey, there's two more parts you can watch - and then there's the Hobbit movies, etc."So are you saying that, even if this is a 30-40 hour game experience with its own narrative arc (the escalating war between Ecoterreorist group Avalanche and MegaCorp Power Company Shinra), it can't be considered a full game because the material it's built upon goes farther than that?
This is going to be a remake of an old game split into sections that are a whole game's worth of content. In what universe does that not constitute a whole game? Are movies, shows, or games that end with cliffhangers or "and the story continues!" type endings not whole stories?I can't say it any clearer than I did in that post. Let's say that this wasn't a remake and this was the first time Final Fantasy VII ever released. Only then could we say it was "complete", because we wouldn't know what is supposed to come after it. It's like watching The Fellowship of the Rings and just leaving it at that, even though people tell you "Hey, there's two more parts you can watch - and then there's the Hobbit movies, etc."
Also based on what you just said, you couldn't consider it complete based on that narrative arc because none of what you just mentioned is fully resolved until disc 3 at the very end of Final Fantasy VII.
I mean, basically every story is incomplete until you die, amirite?
That's correct - it is a complete movie, but it's overarching narrative and character development only reach a conclusion by watching the other two films in it's trilogy.
Yeah, it's not too long but it had a perfect time. Same here, it doesn't really change anything for me since it has priority over the other big games for me.Obviously not a huge deal, but I was really happy about FF7 being ahead of the rush instead of in the middle of it. I'm someone that usually chips away at games by playing like 2 hours a day and was happy I could play FF7 without it competing for my time with other long games. Now it's sandwiched between P5R, Cyberpunk and RE3, so some games are gonna have to be sidelined more than I wanted. FF7 is my biggest priority though, so this affects my time with other games more than hurting itself.
But The Fellowship of the Ring was still treated as if it was a full film. It was given the budget of a full film, it had its release schedule as a full film. Considering that we're discussing release schedules, that's kind of an important distinction to make.I can't say it any clearer than I did in that post. Let's say that this wasn't a remake and this was the first time Final Fantasy VII ever released. Only then could we say it was "complete", because we wouldn't know what is supposed to come after it. It's like watching The Fellowship of the Rings and just leaving it at that, even though people tell you "Hey, there's two more parts you can watch - and then there's the Hobbit movies, etc."
It only covers the first portion of the overall narrative of FFVII, but Square's goal is to make that portion the size and scope of a modern Final Fantasy game in and of itself.Is this the full game or are they still going episodic? I was tempted as I never (shock horror) played the original.
S-E: 'We have researched your request and would like to announce we can indeed provide you with a demo of the PS4 port version of Final Fantasy 7 on 3/3. Enjoy!'
For the best. Less/no crunch and better game! Take your time, devs!
I'm not saying they should just delay the release again to be closer to the inevitable part 2 - or should I say the required part 2 - I'm saying that releasing it less than a week before Cyberpunk 2077 is an insane decision that only serves to cannibalize the Final Fantasy VII Remake.But The Fellowship of the Ring was still treated as if it was a full film. It was given the budget of a full film, it had its release schedule as a full film. Considering that we're discussing release schedules, that's kind of an important distinction to make.
No one said "They should delay Fellowship of the RIng to make it release closer to The Two Towers".
It only covers the first portion of the overall narrative of FFVII, but Square's goal is to make that portion the size and scope of a modern Final Fantasy game in and of itself.
Won't deny there will be backlash- that's inevitable on the internet. But both are trying to achieve different things. VIIR isn't being advertised as an open-world (errr... open-city) do-anything kind of game. It's a heavily cinematic JRPG with insane production values that happens to be the first part of a saga, a remake, to a legendary, 23-year old game. I'll go out on a limb and say the majority of people really excited for VIIR are excited to see things and hear things from their youth given a gigantic update. A more fully-explorable Midgar is just a plus, but that not being the case isn't going to really damage what the game ultimately is: a cinematic, story-driven experience.
On the other hand, speaking personally, I'm looking at CP2077 as a massive open-city exploration RPG sandbox where I make the choices and the story is much more adaptable to my play style. Again- a completely different thing than VIIR. I'd be surprised if people look at the two and those really anticipating VIIR would say "nah. 2077 is MUCH more explorable. I'm passing on VIIR". Those on the fence, maybe those that never played the original, sure... maybe I could see the difference in open-world size playing a part.
Is this the full game or are they still going episodic? I was tempted as I never (shock horror) played the original.
I will agree with that👍
Broadly agree. Kalm and the flashback sequence really stood out to me though even 20 years on. Fantastic storytelling and the Sephiroth reveal was great. Looking forward to that in Remake immensely, albeit probably not in Part 1