Final Fantasy VII Remake - First look at Tifa

Crossing Eden

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Because she's been obviously well above average in the bust department since her inception? I'm not saying she's been made flat, but she looks smaller IMO than she has in Dissidia and other games.
I'm not sure you've seen many breasts outside of porn, anime, and video games because she absolutely is above average, she's just wearing two layers because sports bras exist.

Big boobed girls need representation too,
Yea man, large breasts are just like.... SOOOOOO hard to come by when it comes to the video game industry. Like, hella low amount of representation.
 
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I'm not sure you've seen many breasts outside of porn, anime, and video games because she absolutely is above average, she's just wearing two layers because sports bras exist.


Yea man, large breasts are just like.... SOOOOOO hard to come by when it comes to the video game industry. Like, hella low amount of representation.
GOOD female characters with big boobs and respectful designs are hard to come by. Tell me I'm wrong. And fine, you wanna pretend the many female friends of mine that have complained to me about feeling like they only get to be eye candy when represented in media don't exist, go right ahead.
 

Ashlette

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GOOD female characters with big boobs are hard to come by. Tell me I'm wrong. And fine, you wanna pretend the many female friends of mine that have complained to me about feeling like they only get to be eye candy when represented in media, go right ahead.
You are being inconsistent here. In an earlier post you agreed that she has large breasts, but in this one you disagreed.
 

Crossing Eden

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GOOD female characters with big boobs are hard to come by. Tell me I'm wrong. And fine, you wanna pretend the many female friends of mine that have complained to me about feeling like they only get to be eye candy when represented in media, go right ahead.
Your complaints should be directed toward devs then, not towards devs who give characters reasonable proportions at a higher fidelity instead of appealing to the lowest common denominator. And to reiterate, Tifa HAS a large bust in the remake. They just put more thought into how a character like that would dress like the rest of the cast. You'll notice that Barret now has a tank top on underneath his jacket as an example. So is your issue that her outfit isn't as sexualized?
 
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You are being inconsistent here. In an earlier post you agreed that she has large breasts, but in this one you disagreed.
Maybe my frame of reference is busted by the friends I've happened to have in real life, I don't know, but while the new Tifa is clearly not small, I just don't think she's as large as she should be, that's all. I'm not saying H-cups or THAT one CG from the original game,
Your complaints should be directed toward devs then, not towards devs who give characters reasonable proportions at a higher fidelity instead of appealing to the lowest common denominator.
It's those kinds of statements that bother me. People trying to be inclusive but then shitting on people with body types further from the norm. My ex had a really fucked up body image because of people acting like she was somehow unrealistic, or ridiculous, or absurd.

But my complaints do go toward shitty pander-y devs. I don't play gacha games or dumb anime trash that makes every female a sex object.

EDIT: If you check my earlier comment I outright state I like the new costume. My only change would be the gloves. I wouldn't even have cared if she went more modest on the outfit. It's just the body type. And even then, I point out that it's possible that her black undergarment is meant to be a sports bra and its just doing its job very well.

Like I said above, it's very possible my perception is just skewed by the woman I've happened to know. I dunno.
 

Neo Hartless

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I won't lie and say I wasn't expecting something closer to that fan made render people were posting a few months ago, but this design is overall really good. The thigh highs are a weird choice but I guess I'll get used to it.

But no Rachel Leigh Cooke is a crime, I'm playing this thing subbed.
 
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My girlfriend of four years certainly didn't enjoy statements like that. Plenty of women are far larger than Tifa and it's kind of shitty to call their proportions absurd.

Again, I'm not saying she's small, I just think she could've been a tad bigger. But whatever. Barett has a far more unrealistic body type that even fewer men will ever have, but I haven't seen much decrying of him.
She’s....wearing a sports bra and her boobs are still poking out. Her tits are huge still. Like easily a 30 DD and probably bigger.

And I don’t think women with big tits are under-represented in video games so.....
 
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I won't lie and say I wasn't expecting something closer to that fan made render people were posting a few months ago, but this design is overall really good. The thigh highs are a weird choice but I guess I'll get used to it.

But no Rachel Leigh Cooke is a crime, I'm playing this thing subbed.
Brit sounds better as Tifa though.

I prefer Aerith’s Crisis Core actress though.
 

Foot

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Costume design wise, I like pretty much everything except the lack of red gloves.

Facial design wise, she's a bit too obviously Asian-looking. Same with Cloud. Not to the degree of AC, but it's especially weird when Cloud looked less Asian in the original trailers. Not a dealbreaker or anything, just noting.

I think she's too thin, and she should be a bit more obviously busty. Big boobs aren't "unrealistic", and it's pretty exclusionary to say someone busty can't be a fighter. Still, I've seen sports bras do some crazy things, so I can choose to headcanon that that's what's going on with her. But the twig arms and legs are definitely the bigger oddity. She doesn't need to be ripped, I see plenty of women at the gym that maintain so called "womanly" figures while still clearly having some muscle on them.
Too obviously Asian? What.
 

Sankara

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You know darn well that's not going to be what gets modded....



It'll take several years of foreshadowing, but I would love it if at some point during the final part....

they revisit this shot, except now Cloud has moved to the middle stool to sit right next to her
ugh I hate the priority of modders :'(

I went to the Resident Evil 2 Nexus mod site and it was basically just porn. Kind of shitty that this is what we can expect with mod scenes in general.
 

Crossing Eden

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It's those kinds of statements that bother me. People trying to be inclusive but then shitting on people with body types further from the norm. My ex had a really fucked up body image because of people acting like she was somehow unrealistic, or ridiculous, or absurd.
This seems like an attempt on the "actually YOU'RE the real racist." kind of rhetoric.

Sure, put words in my mouth. I think it's indisputable that Barrett's design is far more unrealistic than Tifa's. To get a body even close to Barrett's you have to be on some serious steroids and put unholy hours into the gym, on top of having kickass genetics.
Barret is a power fantasy made by men to appeal to other men. The vast majority of men don't feel insecure looking at Barrett because beauty standards for men are different and thus seeing a character like Barret=a dopamine trigger in the same way that Cloud is carrying a huge dick metaphor is perceived as badass. Look no further than the fact that there's no way in hell that you genuinely feel a single ounce of insecurity when you look at Barrett yet felt the need to present that false equivalence as a hypothetical.

Jesus Fucking Christ.. who gives a shit about her boobs?
Insecure male gamers who just want bigger breasted women to get the representation that they deserve.

Comments like these only antagonize
Quite frankly dumb rhetoric genuinely shouldn't be considered as a serious talking point.
 
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Looks great.

They can really keep the hype going with this until launch by showing the old cast reimagined for the Remaster. So despite us knowing what they look like we’re still excited to see them again here in their PS4 glory. And that goes for locations too. Can’t wait to see more.
 

Diablos

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Lol @ people saying her new design is pandering to a SJW mindset. Why do so many fucking fools have to pollute the gaming sphere, ugh.
 

Balls

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Costume design wise, I like pretty much everything except the lack of red gloves.

Facial design wise, she's a bit too obviously Asian-looking. Same with Cloud. Not to the degree of AC, but it's especially weird when Cloud looked less Asian in the original trailers. Not a dealbreaker or anything, just noting.

I think she's too thin, and she should be a bit more obviously busty. Big boobs aren't "unrealistic", and it's pretty exclusionary to say someone busty can't be a fighter. Still, I've seen sports bras do some crazy things, so I can choose to headcanon that that's what's going on with her. But the twig arms and legs are definitely the bigger oddity. She doesn't need to be ripped, I see plenty of women at the gym that maintain so called "womanly" figures while still clearly having some muscle on them.
What's wrong with looking Asian? Tf? God forbid we have some Asian looking characters.
 

Kthulhu

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Don't see why anyone who thought Cloud looked good would have a reason to complain about Tifa. They added some details and made the characters a bit more realistic. Seems like that's what they'll do for all of them.
 

Kthulhu

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ugh I hate the priority of modders :'(

I went to the Resident Evil 2 Nexus mod site and it was basically just porn. Kind of shitty that this is what we can expect with mod scenes in general.
Could be that's all they can really do. It's not like a Bethesda game where it's easily modded and has official tools. If you look at other games on the Nexus you can find a shit ton of mods that have nothing to do with nudity or porn.
 

Balls

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Yup, that comment was crazy racist. Looking forward to the backpedal.
It's just crazy to me how everyone is automatically expected to be white and if not there somehow needs to be a reason to justify their non whiteness. Inb4 "Cloud and Tifa are suppose to be white!". Bitch it's a fucking video game set in a fictional world with fictional characters.
 

Kinthey

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Quite frankly dumb rhetoric genuinely shouldn't be considered as a serious talking point.
Nah, he's been politely arguing his point and didn't say anything offensive. If you respond like a dick to that then you're the ass in that conversation. It's this dumb and passive aggressive skirting of the "hostility" line that makes reading discussions on this forum often so exhausting
 
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It's just crazy to me how everyone is automatically expected to be white and if not there somehow needs to be a reason to justify their non whiteness. Inb4 "Cloud and Tifa are suppose to be white!". Bitch it's a fucking video game set in a fictional world with fictional characters.
Cloud and Tifa are supposed to be white?

I thought they were always coded Asian as most FF characters are
 

SOLDIER

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Cloud and Tifa are supposed to be white?

I thought they were always coded Asian as most FF characters are
You could make the argument that because of her features, background and last name that she was intended to be "Western", at least in comparison to the more blatantly Asian character (Yuffie Kisaragi).

She doesn't even look Asian here, not like she did in Advent Children. She and the other characters fall under that line of "Photorealistic Anime" most FF games follow nowadays.
 

Crossing Eden

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Nah, he's been politely arguing his point and didn't say anything offensive. If you respond like a dick to that then you're the ass in that conversation. It's this dumb and passive aggressive skirting of the "hostility" line that makes reading discussions on this forum often so exhausting
I mean, "big breasted women need more representation" isn't exactly offensive but it's a hilarious thing to say in the context of the gaming industry and a thread highlighting a character with large breasts but *gasp* an outfit that's actually reasonable.
 

SOLDIER

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All I'll say is that at this point I've already gotten tired of the "What's wrong with big breasts? My friend in middle school...." posts.

Not saying they don't exist but the frequency of this statement leads me to believe it's nothing but a heavily-stacked strawman.

Whens Aerith with a heavy English accent
I know, right?
 

JadedWriter

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ugh I hate the priority of modders :'(

I went to the Resident Evil 2 Nexus mod site and it was basically just porn. Kind of shitty that this is what we can expect with mod scenes in general.
I can only imagine what hasn't been uploaded onto YouTube because the TOS. I saw one thumbnail of Claire in some skimpy...thing that I can only describe as stripper wear and was like, "what the fuck are they doing to Claire?!" The whole thing is quite frankly tasteless and very disrespectful of the characters.
 

Scherzo

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This is probably going to go down as the ultimate example of a fanbase misinterpreting a character through years of hentai and Rule 34.

It'll be a TV Trope soon.
I really don't get it because she's still really fetishy? They even gave her 'Absolute Territory'.

ugh I hate the priority of modders :'(

I went to the Resident Evil 2 Nexus mod site and it was basically just porn. Kind of shitty that this is what we can expect with mod scenes in general.
Hey, if people want a tittymonster Tifa in their game that's their prerogative.
 
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You could make the argument that because of her features, background and last name that she was intended to be "Western", at least in comparison to the more blatantly Asian character (Yuffie Kisaragi).

She doesn't even look Asian here, not like she did in Advent Children. She and the other characters fall under that line of "Photorealistic Anime" most FF games follow nowadays.
She looks Eurasian to me tbh or Latina.