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Final Fantasy VII Remake General Discussion Thread [Open Spoilers for Original FFVII ONLY please!]
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I could see prequel DLC. Maybe playable Jessie, Biggs and Wedge on an earlier Avalanche mission? Or go even earlier and show how Barrett and Tifa first met. A Red XIII mission could elaborate on how he was captured. Or, hell, what if they just went completely original and told some other stories set in Midgar with new characters? It's a big place, such things could flesh it out even more.
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I'm hoping there's not much if any story DLC, make some skins, implement the most requested QOL features, maybe a hard mode, and move onto the sequel.
A retelling of the events of Before Crisis that's not a mobile phone game would be nice.
The original Avalanche was a much more ruthless terrorist organization. They got cornered by the Turks in Sector 6 in Midgar and in a last ditch effort to "save the planet" they summoned a pseudoWEAPON called Zirconiade to wipe out all life on the planet. The Turks stopped Zirconiade, but it exploded and wiped out the Sector 6 plate.
Sector 6 at the start of FF7:
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I really wish SE hadn't said anything about the sequel being "in pre-production" because that could mean anything and people are getting the wrong idea. I'd be shocked if more than 1% of the dev team is working on the sequel when they were crunching to try and make the fiscal year (which they really needed btw).
The overwhelming majority of the team will be working on this game until it's done updating, and then they'll probably move on to the Xbox, PC, and PS5 port, then they'll transition to full development on the sequel.
The overwhelming majority of the team will be working on this game until it's done updating, and then they'll probably move on to the Xbox, PC, and PS5 port, then they'll transition to full development on the sequel.
It's a shame a lot of the compilation is stuck on dead platforms. Especially before crisis, it always looked interesting.
The delay bumped them out of the financial year so I'm wondering if they didn't need it's help and decided to push it to the following quarter. We could be surprised, they could just be polishing up this one and have already moved a fair bit of the team over.
I'd say part of it is a lot of the assets for Part 1 have likely been designed to be multipurpose so they can be reused to cut down dev time on Part 2. Junon especially can reuse a lot of Midgar stuff. Reactor assets can be used throughout the world. Wall Market assets can be turned into Wutai.
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A retelling of the events of Before Crisis that's not a mobile phone game would be nice.
The original Avalanche was a much more ruthless terrorist organization. They got cornered by the Turks in Sector 6 in Midgar and in a last ditch effort to "save the planet" they summoned a pseudoWEAPON called Zirconiade to wipe out all life on the planet. The Turks stopped Zirconiade, but it exploded and wiped out the Sector 6 plate.
Sector 6 at the start of FF7:
I've never played Before Crisis, is it all set in Midgar? Also, I swear I remember seeing screenshots of it with characters like Cait Sith confirming he's controlled by Reeve - would the game work without that stuff?
This is an issue I've considered before - a lot of the compilation stuff seems like it might be ripe for DLC remakes at first, but then you remember that their stories all have huge spoilers for people who haven't at least gotten pretty damn far into the original story.
I assumed that the work on the sequel is being done by all the people whose work on Part 1 is complete, like concept design, combat, maybe building environments (if they aren't needed for DLC), etc. Wouldn't the people currently working on the April game, even if they are crunching, just be programmers and bug fixers, with the actual "content" of the game almost certainly being complete?
Nah, Before Crisis is a mobile phone prequel where you control a nameless Turk and fight Avalanche. It's set all over the world, but being a phone game it looks like ass.
I think a lot of the compilation is salvageable. There were good ideas. I think the biggest issue was that those ideas couldn't support entire games. But as short DLC stories they could work fine. They never finished the story they were planning. DoC ended with a sequel tease and then nothing.
I still wonder if we might one day see FFVII-2 with the remake as a base.
Suppose it depends on how well this remake goes. I've always wanted a sequel, it's why I enjoyed the compilation, warts and all.
I would really like it. It's why I wish it was more plausible to remake the compilation as DLC over the course of the FFVIIR project, so it could then be followed up by a full sequel. As it stands, though, it feels like such remakes (apart from Before Crisis) would almost all have to be done as DLC for the final part. Crisis Core would need to wait until after the full Zack reveal which basically can't be until the final part, and everything else is an outright sequel. I suppose the story of the younger Vincent could be hugely expanded and told in DLC for the second-last game, with the main story of DoC made for the final part as a sort of sequel? I don't know, it's all rather messy.
I'd prefer large open zones with ground vehicles to explore and being able to fly the highwind but only at an altitude where the world can appear at a reasonable scale. Taking off and landing should be handled with brief cinematics at designated landing zones within each explorable region. The world should be able to be rendered if it's obscured by clouds and distant enough to be modeled with simplified geometry. It seems to me to be the best compromise between old and new and I'm surprised no game has attempted it yet.
This is how I can see it
1: Midgar
2: Two open worlds areas like Witcher 3, one after the other, the Eastern/Western Continent.
3: 'open world' with boat, old locations and expanded Wutai/Northern Continents and islands like Mideel. New levels like Wutai outposts/settlements and the forest before the ancient temple.
4: Open world, half of is is revisiting old areas and loads of action like return to Midgar/attack on Junon/stealing the huge materia from Nibel's train heist.
That way you get the cliffhanger from whirlwind maze and it'd be a crying shame if it wasn't.
The messiest part is the transition between 2 and 3, but I would add a new ending where you have to protect the tiny bronco, and Rufus/Shirna must be hold up at Mt nibel. Then you can do an ending at Golden Saucer date, where Cid tried to convert his fucked up airship into a boat, and 3 now begins in Wutai looking for a trail for Cait Sith and the turks who betrayed you, then getting the boat as you leave.
Each game would be like 20-25 hours then, I guess.
As far as I can tell, the names are all uppercase in the Japanese footage. English footage uses standard name capitalization.
I might be wrong, but I think the uppercase is from the JP version?
Do covers usually stick out half an inch from the plastic, and have that red pattern at the bottom of it? If not, then I'm guessing fake.
A retelling of the events of Before Crisis that's not a mobile phone game would be nice.
The original Avalanche was a much more ruthless terrorist organization. They got cornered by the Turks in Sector 6 in Midgar and in a last ditch effort to "save the planet" they summoned a pseudoWEAPON called Zirconiade to wipe out all life on the planet. The Turks stopped Zirconiade, but it exploded and wiped out the Sector 6 plate.
Sector 6 at the start of FF7:
Beefs with Compilation aside, the fact they kept this in reference to Before Crisis makes me extremely pleased.
Maybe they were messing with the 'reversible' cover and just didn't get it back in there that well (been there, done that)?
Otherwise... yeah... I basically just assume everything I see on the internet is fake unless it comes from the horse's anus.
It was like that in the original FF7, too. BC just explained it.
it's most likely only for display. it's not the actual printed cover for the game
Eh, we don't really know that they'll be doing updates/making DLC or anything to this game, nor that they'll be the ones to handle the port. The XV team, for instance, wasn't alone when they did the Windows Edition; Nvidia helped out, and Square still put out multiple XV-related items while the Windows Edition was being developed. Plus, Lightning Returns came out only two years after XIII-2, even with the DLC that game had. Since this game is specifically part 1 of an ongoing series that's greenlit, I'd be surprised if they put out much DLC. Since Unreal Engine allows for porting to other consoles, I wouldn't be surprised if the Xbox release is being kept in mind while they work on the PS4 version.
Plus, they've confirmed that Part 2 is actually being worked on, not just in pre-production.
Sector 6 was simply under construction. I looked at the BC playthrough and there seemed to be nothing indicating that Zirconiade's destruction damaged any part of Midgar. I have a feeling this might be fanon that found its way on some wikis although maybe somebody can decisively prove me wrong.
Seems like this is another week for outlets to play the game. I wasn't expecting write-ups and videos this week given the phrasing of some of those who played the game some days ago, so it makes sense the preview event wasn't done in bulk and it's instead tiered.
From the puzzle in the Shinra building:
"When construction of Sector 6 is finished, Shinra's plan will be complete. That must be why he took Aerith."
from footage i saw it seemed like only a few stations were set up and everyone was given about 3-4 hours of hands on time, i'm sure press sites also got time to do interviews. my prediction has been week of march 3rd we'd get preview impressions, announcement that the game has gone gold, and potentially a new trailer, but who knows.
Ok amazon has PS4 pro $299 do I hop on this or wait closer to launch for possible pack in deal??
And the demo! Pls.
Yeah, that seems to be a pretty hefty amount of time, so I assume they might have played some sidequests and the like apart from some main stuff (maybe even some of the missions we saw in the screenshots last week).
Hopefully we'll get a clearer picture of the game's structure. I'm not expecting a huge departure in that sense.
The release of the previews is probably my most anticipated gaming related thing, right next to the release of the actual game. I'm in some super Zen state with the game, where I'm really hyped for it but my expectations for it are essentially zero. However, I'd still like to know what to expect for the game.
$299 is a good price. i'd either buy a base PS4 if you dont have a PS4 or wait for PS5 though. if you currently have a PS4 trading it in and getting the pro for $299 seems like a good idea to me.
I traded my pro. Sounded like a jet plane taking off.Is the graphics not that much better PS4 -> Pri for FFVIIR
ah. I don't think we've seen what enhancements the PS4 Pro provides yet. i'm just going to guess that the pro will have either higher resolution (4K checkerboard) or a higher/more stable frame rate. i dont even think theres been an official statement on the frame rate of the game either.
forgot to mention the demo, would love to get it soon. also yes i assume they got 3-4 hours to just play the game which probably included those side quests.
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Yeah, that's what I said, it's simply under construction...
It was under construction in the original game, but it never says why. It's odd for 6 out of 8 to be the last Sector to be built, and especially odd for it to not just be unfinished but completely unbuilt.
The outer ring that connects the reactors together isn't even there and if you look closely it looks like it was broken.
The model in Shinra HQ makes it look damaged, too:
And the Sector 6 Slums are different from other Slums in that they aren't just a garbage dump.
This road got damaged really badly and is covered in debris.
"Collapsed Road: A relic from the Sector 6 plate crash that occured during Midgar's construction."
Regardless of how it happened, FF7r is confirming that Sector 6 plate did collapse and it is being rebuilt.
Regardless of how it happened, FF7r is confirming that Sector 6 plate did collapse and it is being rebuilt.
I can't find confirmation of that Before Crisis tidbit about Zirconiade causing the plate collapse.
More people playing the game (this is a Spanish videogame website I love, about the only one I honestly read in any language really).
Really cool venue, I don't know if it's in Spain or if they travelled (to another European country or the US). And I love the Remake Buster Sword, hated the one in the Compilation.
Really cool venue, I don't know if it's in Spain or if they travelled (to another European country or the US). And I love the Remake Buster Sword, hated the one in the Compilation.
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