Personally I loved the addition of Omega into the lore. Seems like a badass emergency survival device for the planet.
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Final Fantasy VII Remake General Discussion Thread [Open Spoilers for Original FFVII ONLY please!]
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Personally I loved the addition of Omega into the lore. Seems like a badass emergency survival device for the planet.
Omega itself I actually don't mind too much. It's everything else that I have a problem with.
It probably won't have, especially since the next game will most likely be a next-gen game.
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I don't see how or why they'd show us footage or a teaser for a game thats a minimum 3 years away after FF7R releases.
FFVII-2 revealed only one year after release?
lol...
More likely E3 2022.
in the other hand yeah I can see them announcing FFXVI in E3 2021.
Not to mention that if such a teaser were to be satisfying, they'd have to make sure it's polished. I don't see how any part of the next game could be that polished at launch--even if there's significant overlap in development between part one and part two.
I highly doubt they would reveal both FFXVI and FFVIIR part 2 at the same time.
Probably, but it's not like they'd have to include the platform, and the nextgen consoles have essentially already been announced.
The FFXIII games released 2 years apart from each other, and S-E already confirmed the next parts will be developed quicker. I can see the next part possibly taking 3 years, but not as a minimum.
I guess it really depends on how much of the part 2 is done by the time they finish making part 1. We could see cutscenes using in-engine assets of course... I don't expect massive difference tbh. But looking at Nomura's track record, I think there is much higher chance of teaser being a CG cutscene made by Visual Works.
I could see FFVII-2 being a beginning of the show type of presentation and FF16 being an end of the show finale teaser reveal type thing.
CGI teaser for XVI but won't see the light of day again 2022.
Saying that other than Kingdom Hearts and the remake the wait time from announcement and release have been far shorter since SE change in CEO.
Is it? I thought their official line was that they've only planned for this first installment and haven't planned out how far the future installments will go. I seem to recall reading something like that, about how they don't even have any idea how many installments they're gonna have.
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FF7R will have much higher production values and won't be able to reuse nearly as many assets as the XIII games did. The Midgar assets and enemies are completely different from the locations and enemies in the next game, and they still have to design combat systems for Yuffie, Cait Sith, Cid, and Vincent.
Three years seems kind of long. You can't forget that they'll likely be able to move on to & develop Part 2 much more efficiently (and have even said so themselves, that that's what they expect) than how long they took with Part 1, and that they can have some early work done on Part 2 even before the release of Part 1, as some of the workforce is freed up from Part 1. I also don't believe they have NOTHING figured out about the subsequent parts. They might not know how large this whole thing will end up being but I'm sure they have some story written, concept artwork done etc. that will speed up moving on with the development of Part 2.
They also have a seemingly strong base for gameplay to build the sequel on (vs. having to scrap and iterate on it for a while until they find something they find worth going forward with), they have their development studio set up that works exclusively on FFVII Remake, they should have the development pipeline fairly well figured out at this point and there's some reusable asset-work (tons of story-relevant characters they can use as is, possibly locations if there are some flashbacks or such in Part 1 that use locations outside Midgar, they can also do some colour/skin-swap enemies like Ice Bombs to pad out content without having to create something entirely from scratch).
If SQEX can do massive expansions to FFXIV every two years (while also pushing fairly meaningful amounts of new content periodically between those larger expansions), I don't think ~2 years between FFVIIR parts is totally impossible assuming they don't try to reinvent the wheel with each part.
Kitase stated during E3 that they were already planning the second game. Don't know how far into preprod they are though.
FFXIII's sequels also got way less resources, used a shitty engine that they had to struggle with every step of the way & was done by a different SQEX that still had a lot more inefficiencies when it comes to the overall development practices.
They probably have a general idea of where they want to end part 2 but can't commit to it as it depends on how much disc space they have for it. Part 1 is already on 2 discs and that is just Midgar.
In the first game you probably wont get a choice as to who is in the party. 99% of Midgar your party is set for you.
In the other games, its probably going to be a menu out of combat since youre going to want to swap materia and accessories between characters to suit whatever build you want.
spitballing here but assuming we see FFXVI next year and there's the general 2 year minimum announce --> release gap that puts it quite a ways back. kinda safe to assume 7R pt 2 lands comfortably before that.
months ago i'd be a lot more pessimistic about the FF7R episode rollout but now the first has an actual street date i'd like to think the wheels are greased and rolling to a reasonable extent
Expecting 3 years between releases.
2 years seems really short judging by the productions values we are seeing in part 1.
2 years seems really short judging by the productions values we are seeing in part 1.
FFXVI announcement will be just a logo, I don't think that would take the spotlight away from FFVII: Remake Part 2.
logo with fancy CGI trailer..
But hopefully they have learned their lesson and shorten the time between announcement and release.
just noticed at max stream (recommend) that aerith house is very weird,
- no bathrooms
- giant books and TV
- only 2 rooms
Like cloud sleeps in one room aerith in the other and Elmyra has to stay awake in the kitchen.
btw Elmyra art
- no bathrooms
- giant books and TV
- only 2 rooms
Like cloud sleeps in one room aerith in the other and Elmyra has to stay awake in the kitchen.
btw Elmyra art
I hope it's just a logo. Any sort of gameplay or teaser results in us spending months (possibly years) looking over and interpreting every tiny detail with a fine-tooth comb, making up story beats in our heads to explain the lore to ourselves. Every tweet, article, and video will have us consuming and wanting - the blind leading the blind. And for what? Half of what they'd show us with CGI might not even make it into the game and we'd feel like we were lied to for years. I'd hate to be part of a thread like that...where all we do is mop up every bit of info for a game years before its release. Just seems like time better spent for me elsewhere, and I for one couldn't imagine doing something like that with any sort of game.
Anyways, what do y'all make of this Watchmen of Fate thing? Crazy, right???
Superbosses for PT1. Nothing that changes the main story too much.
just don't show or tease FFXVI until its ready Square (1 Year before Release). Hope this time they finally learn
There will be a teaser for part 2 at the end of the first part. See KH franchise for reference.
they didnt say quicker they said more efficiently because they had to overhaul the game once and the battle system went through various iterations but now they have it figured out. re-doing work is not efficient.
2 E3's. a game should only show up at 2 E3s before release. 1st E3 you can tease and make an announcement, the next E3 you need gameplay and a release date/small release window.
The journey to Kalm should be the teaser at the end or end credits.
Start PT 2 with the Kalm flashback.
Start PT 2 with the Kalm flashback.
Semantics. The point they were making was very clearly that we wouldn't be waiting years and years for part 2 like with part 1 - they probably would want to shy away from explicitly saying "quicker" just in case something unexpected goes wrong. "Efficient" is a little more vague while still obviously meaning "quicker".
FFXVI is definitely a next gen game, so it SHOULD look a lot better than the VII Remake.
just noticed at max stream (recommend) that aerith house is very weird,
- no bathrooms
- giant books and TV
- only 2 rooms
Like cloud sleeps in one room aerith in the other and Elmyra has to stay awake in the kitchen.
btw Elmyra art
Are you talking about the original game (original CGI-generated house with 2 rooms), or is there new footage of that area from the Remake ?
Well, in one of the interviews they did mention how every character would be stronger against specific enemies, so I could see that happening. I just hope it doesn't devolve into something like FF10's battle system where there is only one or two enemy types for each of the characters. That made it the most overly simplified and tedious combat system of the entire series for me. I remember reading in an old issue of EGM where one of the reviewers compared it to a game of chess. Lol no.
There need to be more variables that determine damage rather than matching speed attacks vs. agile enemies or strong characters vs. armored enemies, etc. Final Fantasy 10 is the least replayable entry in the series for that reason.
Honestly, I loved the original FF VII ending. It was actually pretty hopeful. There was no guarantee of success but Holy coming out of the ground along with seeing Aerith's face similarily to how you saw it in the beginning was pretty nice. It felt like you win but you weren't sure. I'm good with that. Honestly, I didn't need giant post-game exposition of characters either. When it comes to Crisis Core, I really disliked the ending. The "living legacy" stuff was way too on the nose.
not really semantics though:
Development Of Further Final Fantasy VII Games Won't Be Much Faster
They are also not quite sure yet how many more games there will be.
www.gameinformer.com
Yeah, haven't we actually had confirmation that their main team is making a nextgen exclusive (even if it technically hasn't been announced as FFXVI)?
not really semantics though:
What isn't clear is if that was in reference to the entire production of part 1 or just from when it went fully internal. The game spent like 2 years at cyberconnect and we still dont know how much was kept.Development Of Further Final Fantasy VII Games Won't Be Much Faster
They are also not quite sure yet how many more games there will be.
Firstly, that article is old and based on what I believe was a badly translated statement. S-E PR quickly went on Twitter and talked about how part 2 development is expected to be more efficient.
Secondly, there was recently a Max video where he said that the stuff from 2015 is actually still in the extended demo he played, with only slight changes. So while the battle system was refined as you would expect, and character models have seen tweaks, it certainly doesn't seem like much was actually thrown out entirely, which is encouraging.
that was said to press during the behind closed doors presentation. I would think Square Enix's own translators know how to do their job. and again efficient is to be expected, efficient does not mean faster. it's why PR chose to run with "more efficient". and if they didn't have to redo a bunch of work from cyberconnect then 4 years for the next game would still be faster... but if they did scrap and redo a bunch of stuff then 2 and a half years would be slightly faster.
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