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Final Fantasy VII Remake General Discussion Thread [Open Spoilers for Original FFVII ONLY please!]

Should this thread contain open spoilers?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1,406 73.4%

  • No

    Votes: 510 26.6%
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Xenosaga

Xenosaga

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icyflamez96 said:
Yes thats the idea.
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I mean they are already getting backlash for making the part 1 only Midgar.... and if they make Red not playable because of this reason it would bring even more backlash I feel.
I think for battle system they could just put incomplete version if they don't have time/resources, and expand on it in part 2.
 
Shadow_FFVI

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Precisely. After we get Red XIII in the original, it's only about 30 to 45 minutes till we leave Midgar. But the bombing mission is about 15 minutes in the original compared to about an hour in the Remake, so we really don't know for how long Red XIII will be available to us before part 1 ends.
 
icyflamez96

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Isayas said:
How do we know that Shin-RA HQ won't be longer or what? Us Veterans don't know how the story is going because it is basically a reimagini.... oops. A REBOOT.
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I don't get why this is being treated like a combative issue. Exactly, we don't know how they will handle it. There are all kinds of things they can do. Therefore it is a detail that many are unsure about and speculate on. If you think it will, no one is tryna get at you for it lol. I don't see why it's worth making a fuss about.
 
Tuorom

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ZeroDS said:
Yall need to calm down
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On topic:

I'm pleasantly surprised at how good the combat looks. Put me down as scared and horny.
I don't really like how much stronger some of the enemies seem like the first boss. It just seems unnecessary and a sponge. But we shall see how it goes.
 
Xenosaga

Xenosaga

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Tuorom said:
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On topic:

I'm pleasantly surprised at how good the combat looks. Put me down as scared and horny.
I don't really like how much stronger some of the enemies seem like the first boss. It just seems unnecessary and a sponge. But we shall see how it goes.
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Well according to people who have played it, you can take it out faster if you play well exploiting weakness and so on properly..
 
ZeroDS

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Tuorom said:
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On topic:

I'm pleasantly surprised at how good the combat looks. Put me down as scared and horny.
I don't really like how much stronger some of the enemies seem like the first boss. It just seems unnecessary and a sponge. But we shall see how it goes.
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Lol. I didn't start the fire.

Red is going to be there, no doubt.
 
Bit_Reactor

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Philippo said:
This.

Like i hope they keep a rendition of 'Those Who Fight Further' with prog rock guitars instead of going full orchestra, or that they keep the crazy synths in Jeova's themes.
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I'm worried about that as the trailer music and the boss fight music all sounds like the standard orchestra fare instead of the personality and synth that FF7 should have. I'd be happy to be wrong when the game comes out. Some people have been geeking out about the PS4 theme and other stuff and it all just sounds like ambient noise to me.

The problem with the demo interpretation of the boss fight theme as well is if they keep that boss fight theme then the bombing mission melodies that are woven into it will be in every boss fight moving forward. Things like the Fight Faster interpretation in the first trailers as well make me worried for what was a very significant piece of gaming music being basically turned into the equivalent of a typical Hans Zimmer OST. I love me some Hans Zimmer, but that's not what I like the soundtrack of FF7 for.

Again though, happy to be wrong, but what I've heard so far is...less than encouraging.
 
Spehornoob

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I wouldn't be terribly disappointed or surprised if Red XIII isn't playable, given his placement in the Midgar story.

Though it would be kind of cool to have a whole new party member for post-game content. Sort of as a preview for what's to come, gameplay-wise.
 
Cheshire_Buddha

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BreakAtmo said:
I can't help but feel that petting Nanaki would be kind of weird.

I really do hope we see him playable at TGS though. His whole situation is precisely why I always thought the first part would go to Junon.
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Hahaha. I don't think we'd ever really pet him, that's just a joke.

I'm really interested in how he plays, because after looking at how fun Tifa looks to play as I can't wait to see what they do with Red. He's a personal favorite of mine from VII and he's always in my party until Cid joins. (Cloud, Yuffie, Cid for life.)
 
BreakAtmo

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Cheshire_Buddha said:
Hahaha. I don't think we'd ever really pet him, that's just a joke.

I'm really interested in how he plays, because after looking at how fun Tifa looks to play as I can't wait to see what they do with Red. He's a personal favorite of mine from VII and he's always in my party until Cid joins. (Cloud, Yuffie, Cid for life.)
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Yeah, he's awesome. I want to see his whole story and presence get heavily expanded as well. I want Part 2 to go from the Kalm flashback to the discovery of intact Nibelheim for the bookending factor, but also because that would mean Cosmo Canyon would be the final area of a game and would probably be given a great deal of attention.
 
The Last One

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If Red XIII is really in the later parts in the Remake then maybe we won't see him playable in any trailers.
 
Famassu

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Bit_Reactor said:
I'm worried about that as the trailer music and the boss fight music all sounds like the standard orchestra fare instead of the personality and synth that FF7 should have. I'd be happy to be wrong when the game comes out. Some people have been geeking out about the PS4 theme and other stuff and it all just sounds like ambient noise to me.

The problem with the demo interpretation of the boss fight theme as well is if they keep that boss fight theme then the bombing mission melodies that are woven into it will be in every boss fight moving forward. Things like the Fight Faster interpretation in the first trailers as well make me worried for what was a very significant piece of gaming music being basically turned into the equivalent of a typical Hans Zimmer OST. I love me some Hans Zimmer, but that's not what I like the soundtrack of FF7 for.

Again though, happy to be wrong, but what I've heard so far is...less than encouraging.
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Considering the game takes place only in Midgar, there's a fairly limited number of tracks from the original game they can rearrange, so I'd imagine we'll get plenty of variations/arrangements of themes from the original game (especially when it comes to battles/bosses) and probably even completely new themes/tracks to fill out the OST for the duration of the remake that is supposedly as volumous as a single mainline FF. Usually FF OSTs are 3-4CDs, I imagine the remake will be the same, perhaps a little lighter.

Soooo... I doubt the game only has one rendition of boss music and that every boss would play the theme from the scorpion boss or anything.
 
Macnair

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Wishlist for the TGS update:
-render of Red XIII or maybe a confirmation he's in the game.
-hours of gameplay
-how summons work in the game
-see more gameplay
-demo
 
Xenosaga

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So far the only things confirmed for TGS are:

-playable demo booth (presumably same demo as E3 just in Japanese)
-real-size Hardy-Daytona and buster sword display for photo spot
-a trailer
-will show Shinra guys (probably Turks)
-no live stage show for Square Enix booth stuff


It's still possible they might have live stage show for Sony since Sony haven't announced the stage show line up.
 
Famassu

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RedXIII would make sense as a later reveal. Turks come in earlier so it makes sense if TGS trailer is focuses on them now that E3 and post-E3 has been all about the initial hour or two.
 
Philippo

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I really would like a slice of exploration and to show me how the game is actually expanded from the original (like, if there are areas we can visit freely, if there are sidequests to take on at will, etc.) but maybe these are things for later closer to release.

I also want synths and funk.
 
Bit_Reactor

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Famassu said:
Considering the game takes place only in Midgar, there's a fairly limited number of tracks from the original game they can rearrange, so I'd imagine we'll get plenty of variations/arrangements of themes from the original game (especially when it comes to battles/bosses) and probably even completely new themes/tracks to fill out the OST for the duration of the remake that is supposedly as volumous as a single mainline FF. Usually FF OSTs are 3-4CDs, I imagine the remake will be the same, perhaps a little lighter.

Soooo... I doubt the game only has one rendition of boss music and that every boss would play the theme from the scorpion boss or anything.
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One can hope! I can't predict Square these days so that's why I make sure to preface everything with I could be very off base.
 
entrydenied

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I won't be surprised if they move RedXIII's recruitment to an earlier point, maybe have the rescue of him and Aerith take place earlier. They can always come up with another reason for them to go to Shinra Tower. I also won't be surprised if they pull some of the plot points and development of Shinra characters from the later parts of the game forward to this game either.
 
Tornak

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They better do my main man Rufus right.

And they better have a properly sleazy-looking Reno and not the disgrace that AC Reno is.

I think I said this before for TGS, but I can see them releasing a Shinra group CG render like that 2013 FF XV one. But I also was betting on Red revealed during TGS and I'm not so sure anymore. I guess Jump Festa/TGA could be good places for that if they want to wait (we've already seen Shinra HQ tho...).
 
SparkleMotion

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Watching the demo at Pax West (not actually getting to play it), the boss fight doesn't look all that fun. The people demoing were just hacking away at this thing for a half hour with the same basic attacks.
 
BreakAtmo

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Watching the demo at Pax West (not actually getting to play it), the boss fight doesn't look all that fun. The people demoing were just hacking away at this thing for a half hour with the same basic attacks.
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That sounds like people sucking at the game, you're supposed to be mixing it up with character changes, unique attacks, lightning magic, Limit Breaks, etc. Not to mention that it's the very first boss and you play as only 2 characters, so it's going to be a bit simpler.
 
Xenosaga

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Ferrs said:
Don't you get your first summon after Midgar in the original?
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yeah but we already have summon confirmed with preorder stuff, so summon system is in there.
It would be ass move if all the summons in the part 1 is only the ones from preorder and collector's edition.... so I expect other summons to be in the game..
 
Ferrs

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Xenosaga said:
yeah but we already have summon confirmed with preorder stuff, so summon system is in there.
It would be ass move if all the summons in the part 1 is only the ones from preorder and collector's edition.... so I expect other summons to be in the game..
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Ahh you're right, forgot the preorder stuff!
 
Exellus

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Everything we've seen so far has shown nothing but attention to detail and inclusion of basically everything we wanted (and new stuff added on top).

Why in the world would anyone think Red XIII wouldn't be here?
 
Tornak

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It'd be nice to have a nice summon showcased yeah. In any case, whenever they show the summoning system, they'll do that with Ifrit, Shiva or whatever.

I don't expect us to see the preorder, lesser ones until close to launch.

I'm expecting the summons to be more of a passive thing, either a single attack or making the creature appear for a very short period of time as a non-playable party member. But there's the problem of scale, and I'd assume some summons are going to be too big to fit some dungeons and the like.
 
Tornak

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If they're showing the Shinra guys I wonder if the trailer is going to show completely new instances and scenes where we see them. Similar to the one with Heidegger and the Prez.

I think the Turks and Rufus will be quite involved in unexpected ways in the first game.

I hope they give Rufus some good depth and focus, he'd make a great final boss (although I don't know when. I guess they could always take the Motorball away and have his duel with Cloud as the final battle. Or make him chase them but I don't like the sound of that).
 
icyflamez96

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I'm pretty sure Red XIII makes a point in the original FFVII of how
Areith used to pet his head and he hated it but started to miss it when she was gone.
 
snausages

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SparkleMotion said:
Watching the demo at Pax West (not actually getting to play it), the boss fight doesn't look all that fun. The people demoing were just hacking away at this thing for a half hour with the same basic attacks.
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Yeah, well you need to manage resources between the two characters to stack on the stagger bar. It's very much a switching heavy combat system, something which takes time to actually understand

Like I was halfway through the scorpion fight before I noticed that the character you control charges ATB more quickly, up until then it was a dull mashfest. Then I was using Barett as a caster and Cloud as was saving his ATB for big finishers. It's got a lot going on for a ten minute thing
 
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